Cassell out = Marbury in?

[wahz]

at 10:45 est it seems as clear as these things can be that Marbury is about to be bought out, and he will join the Celtics. We don't have great other options and I don't see him killing chemistry if we borrow him for 3.25 months. Well actually I can see that but I am hoping he can behave himself for that long

[winsomme]

at 10:45 est it seems as clear as these things can be that Marbury is about to be bought out, and he will join the Celtics. We don't have great other options and I don't see him killing chemistry if we borrow him for 3.25 months. Well actually I can see that but I am hoping he can behave himself for that long

well, he's not going to do anything disruptive in the regular season, but the question is in the playoffs...

just think back to how scary it got in the ATL and CLE series....and also think about the really hard-nosed play we got from PJ and Eddie...not flashy or box score notable...but just that little extra...

now think about Mar's reaction to those scenarios where he starts hoisting up terribly forced shots....Mar's little bit extra very easily could be him resorting back to a role from his earlier days and try and take over a game....but that is not the role we need from a backup PG...

could it work? sure. I will certainly be rooting for it to work if he's here.

[crownsy]

at 10:45 est it seems as clear as these things can be that Marbury is about to be bought out, and he will join the Celtics. We don't have great other options and I don't see him killing chemistry if we borrow him for 3.25 months. Well actually I can see that but I am hoping he can behave himself for that long

well my hope is that

A) steph realizes he has zero power, the vet min is alot esier to kick out the door at the first sign of trouble than 22 million.

B) the market for a PG who gets bought out and plays the good backup on a championship caliber team is much better than the one who gets bought out, is a cancer, and gets cut again.

My hope is that as crazy as steph is, B is something he knows.

[Celtics1990]

I think that once Stephon steps into the Celtics locker room and sees how hard these guys work and how close they are, he'll want to be a part of that.  Also, the threat of being cut instantly if he gets out of line could have an impact on him.

[winsomme]

I think that once Stephon steps into the Celtics locker room and sees how hard these guys work and how close they are, he'll want to be a part of that.  Also, the threat of being cut instantly if he gets out of line could have an impact on him.

I think he will work hard. I think he will play hard. That's not really the question for me. I think there is very little chance of him getting out of line.

The question for me is what is he actually going to do on the court....Is he going to make good decisions with the ball...is he going to take good high percentage shots....and most importantly, is he going to show the ability to really lock down on defense...

[Mr October]

If nobody better shakes loose in the next week and a half, sign me up for Marbury. I'm sure he'll bust his butt for the time that he is here. And of course his talent would be a big boost to the bench.

Heck, if a nice F or C pops free during this time, I think i'd still make a run at Marbury.

[Hoops]

I think that once Stephon steps into the Celtics locker room and sees how hard these guys work and how close they are, he'll want to be a part of that.  Also, the threat of being cut instantly if he gets out of line could have an impact on him.

I think he will work hard. I think he will play hard. That's not really the question for me. I think there is very little chance of him getting out of line.

The question for me is what is he actually going to do on the court....Is he going to make good decisions with the ball...is he going to take good high percentage shots....and most importantly, is he going to show the ability to really lock down on defense...

We don't need Marbury to play big minutes, especially in the playoffs. If anything, we'll need him to come in for 15-20 minutes a game to be a scoring threat on the 2nd unit. With Marbury as a threat, guys like House and Powe will get better looks. And if one of the big three is playing with the second unit, they won't have to work as hard to carry the scoring load. Let's not forget that as selfish as Marbury is as a person, he is a guy who has averaged more than 7 assists per game most of his career.

[LarBrd33]

Latest from Mark Stein on ESPN:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&page=TradeTalk-090218

The Kings, sources say, were rejected by New York when they offered Miller and Kenny Thomas -- two contracts that end just in time for the summer of 2010 free-agent pursuit of LeBron James -- for Stephon Marbury's $20.8 million expiring contract. All signs point to Marbury's remaining on the Knicks' roster through the deadline, after which he'll have just more than a week to negotiate his release if he hopes to be eligible for the playoffs with any other team.

I don't totally understand that.  I'd think the Knicks would take what they could get for Marbury as long as it expires by 2010...

Seems pretty dumb.  I mean... take whatever you can get for Marbury now... and then maybe Kenny Thomas and Brad Miller's expiring contracts are usable pieces next year?  Doesn't make sense at all.  It gives you some talent for this year and next and doesn't hurt the long term goal of landing Bron.

[winsomme]

Latest from Mark Stein on ESPN:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&page=TradeTalk-090218

The Kings, sources say, were rejected by New York when they offered Miller and Kenny Thomas -- two contracts that end just in time for the summer of 2010 free-agent pursuit of LeBron James -- for Stephon Marbury's $20.8 million expiring contract. All signs point to Marbury's remaining on the Knicks' roster through the deadline, after which he'll have just more than a week to negotiate his release if he hopes to be eligible for the playoffs with any other team.

yeah, i don't understand that either because Miller could have helped them make the playoffs this year and would not alter their flexibility in 2010...

I don't totally understand that.  I'd think the Knicks would take what they could get for Marbury as long as it expires by 2010...

Seems pretty dumb.  I mean... take whatever you can get for Marbury now... and then maybe Kenny Thomas and Brad Miller's expiring contracts are usable pieces next year?  Doesn't make sense at all.  It gives you some talent for this year and next and doesn't hurt the long term goal of landing Bron.

[xmuscularghandix]

Latest from Mark Stein on ESPN:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&page=TradeTalk-090218

The Kings, sources say, were rejected by New York when they offered Miller and Kenny Thomas -- two contracts that end just in time for the summer of 2010 free-agent pursuit of LeBron James -- for Stephon Marbury's $20.8 million expiring contract. All signs point to Marbury's remaining on the Knicks' roster through the deadline, after which he'll have just more than a week to negotiate his release if he hopes to be eligible for the playoffs with any other team.

yeah, i don't understand that either because Miller could have helped them make the playoffs this year and would not alter their flexibility in 2010...

I don't totally understand that.  I'd think the Knicks would take what they could get for Marbury as long as it expires by 2010...

Seems pretty dumb.  I mean... take whatever you can get for Marbury now... and then maybe Kenny Thomas and Brad Miller's expiring contracts are usable pieces next year?  Doesn't make sense at all.  It gives you some talent for this year and next and doesn't hurt the long term goal of landing Bron.

the knicks don't do things that make sense. someones gonna hurt themselves trying to figure them out.

[Jirimania]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/88137-stephon-marbury-enigma-head-case-philanthropist

And when his team had only eight players available for a recent game, he refused to play despite his $21.9 million salary.

Yet he has somehow managed to makeThe Sporting News' list of "Good Guys in Sports" three times.

Allow me to introduce Stephon Marbury—enigma, head case, philanthropist.

Marbury- Tough to figure him out.

[D Dub]

I am very disapointed at all the Celts fans who are warming up to this idea.

Adding Marbury is a bad idea, he is the epitome of 'loser'.  If we can't get another Big, I would much rather re-claim Cassell than go after this head case. 

This is a guy who in 11 seasons has only been to the playoffs 4 times, and never past the first round.  And history has shown that every team he has played for improved the season after he left.  I just don't get the fascination here.

[I Love Getting Rondod]

The major fascination is that when Marbury doesn't run the team, he can't do too much damage.  There is a 27.8% chance Marbury could shed his ego down a few tons and fit into the team chemistry, but that is as likely as Terrell Owens joining the Dallas-Fort Worth synchronized swimming county team.  It is certainly worth the risk, as he can be exiled if the experiment fails.  His offensive capability is the best available [don't forget he turns 32 on Friday, so he's still got a decent amount left in the tank].  The bottom line is, if KG will vouch for him, then he is good to go, as KG would know better than anyone in the world how much of a headache Starbury is.ß

[Snakehead]

Is it possible to write a clause into a players contract that they can be cut for behavior reasons?  If so that would be the ideal option.  But even if he becomes a problem and you can't cut him, with KG, Ray, Pierce and even Perkins and House in that locker room I doubt he'd be a loud problem like he was on the Knicks.  He'd just be not a part of the team, which in that situation would be ideal.

[Donoghus]

Is it possible to write a clause into a players contract that they can be cut for behavior reasons?  If so that would be the ideal option.  But even if he becomes a problem and you can't cut him, with KG, Ray, Pierce and even Perkins and House in that locker room I doubt he'd be a loud problem like he was on the Knicks.  He'd just be not a part of the team, which in that situation would be ideal.

There's absolutely no way that the Player's Union would agree to that unless the owners made some serious concessions.