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End of game plays. What happened?
« on: February 08, 2009, 08:49:53 PM »

Offline wdleehi

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Doc has had a reputation of being good running plays out of time outs.


And the play they ran in Philly was great.  Lots of player movement.  Created multiple opportunities.


This disappeared in the Lakers and Spurs games.  Became more of an iso game or a single pick.  I not sure why?  (and don't even start with the bad inbound pass)


I would think the better the defense, the more you want to make it react to create shots.

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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2009, 09:14:00 PM »

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I'm not sure, but Doc has always been a players' coach. I would bet that the last few times, Doc has given his players discretion to use an iso play. Even in the Philly game, he allowed his players to talk him out of calling a different play. I think it shows a level of trust with the players. Ultimately though, do you let the players choose or do you, as the coach make the final decision?

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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2009, 09:16:29 PM »

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Doc has had a reputation of being good running plays out of time outs.


And the play they ran in Philly was great.  Lots of player movement.  Created multiple opportunities.


This disappeared in the Lakers and Spurs games.  Became more of an iso game or a single pick.  I not sure why?  (and don't even start with the bad inbound pass)


I would think the better the defense, the more you want to make it react to create shots.

i'm not sure what plays you're talking about WL.

with 56 secs left we were ahead by 3 and Ray missed a layup. The next possession they got KG a wide open 17 footer that was in the basket and rimmed out.

the possession after that was the turnover and the clear path foul.

at that point the game was essentially over....

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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2009, 09:27:29 PM »

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Doc has had a reputation of being good running plays out of time outs.


And the play they ran in Philly was great.  Lots of player movement.  Created multiple opportunities.


This disappeared in the Lakers and Spurs games.  Became more of an iso game or a single pick.  I not sure why?  (and don't even start with the bad inbound pass)


I would think the better the defense, the more you want to make it react to create shots.

i'm not sure what plays you're talking about WL.

with 56 secs left we were ahead by 3 and Ray missed a layup. The next possession they got KG a wide open 17 footer that was in the basket and rimmed out.

the possession after that was the turnover and the clear path foul.

at that point the game was essentially over....

They pounded the ball, ran a single pick a pass.  Everyone else stood around.  Coming into that play, they were doing a lot more movement with the ball and without.

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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2009, 09:39:51 PM »

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Doc has had a reputation of being good running plays out of time outs.


And the play they ran in Philly was great.  Lots of player movement.  Created multiple opportunities.


This disappeared in the Lakers and Spurs games.  Became more of an iso game or a single pick.  I not sure why?  (and don't even start with the bad inbound pass)


I would think the better the defense, the more you want to make it react to create shots.

i'm not sure what plays you're talking about WL.

with 56 secs left we were ahead by 3 and Ray missed a layup. The next possession they got KG a wide open 17 footer that was in the basket and rimmed out.

the possession after that was the turnover and the clear path foul.

at that point the game was essentially over....

They pounded the ball, ran a single pick a pass.  Everyone else stood around.  Coming into that play, they were doing a lot more movement with the ball and without.

again, they got a layup and an open KG jumper....what better shots are you looking for. that is bread and butter stuff for this team.

if they were getting heavily contested shots, i could see what you're saying, but they got two great shots.

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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2009, 09:44:57 PM »

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I agree 100% with winsomme here. We got great looks and couldn't put them down. KG had hit a couple of those and then missed the clutch one. Ray's layup didn't help either. Those go down and it is a different result I think. Maybe Doc could have run a play where all of the Spurs would have gone up to the three point line and let Perk dunk it. I can't believe he didn't call that one. Stupid coach. Settling for a layup and a wide open jumper...

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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2009, 10:13:15 PM »

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If KG knocks down that two from the elbow instead of missing and Mason, Jr. hitting that leaner 3 we were in great shape to win the game.

That slip up on the inbounds pass by Ray was when we were down 2 already, so there was no guarantee there.  Sometimes games come down to a play or two as we all know.  That's why it sucks when you lose one like this.

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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2009, 11:20:25 PM »

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I agree 100% with winsomme here. We got great looks and couldn't put them down. KG had hit a couple of those and then missed the clutch one. Ray's layup didn't help either. Those go down and it is a different result I think. Maybe Doc could have run a play where all of the Spurs would have gone up to the three point line and let Perk dunk it. I can't believe he didn't call that one. Stupid coach. Settling for a layup and a wide open jumper...


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