Why wouldn't LeBron want to come to Boston?

[spazmonkey]

Jeff Howe with Metro/Bostonsportsmedia.com wrote something on the topic a few weeks ago.  His math says:

• Celtics will be able to offer a five-year deal worth $95M/5 years.
• Cleveland (since NBA gives teams an advantage toward re-signing their stars) can offer James $145.1M/6 years.
• Other teams with enough cap space can offer a max contract of $113.7M/5 years.

If it's about guaranteed dollars, we're on the outside lookin' in.

Article here --> www.metrobostonnews.com/us/article/2009/01/09/02/5310-66/index.xml

[CelticsWhat35]

Jeff Howe with Metro/Bostonsportsmedia.com wrote something on the topic a few weeks ago.  His math says:

• Celtics will be able to offer a five-year deal worth $95M/5 years.
• Cleveland (since NBA gives teams an advantage toward re-signing their stars) can offer James $145.1M/6 years.
• Other teams with enough cap space can offer a max contract of $113.7M/5 years.

If it's about guaranteed dollars, we're on the outside lookin' in.

Article here --> www.metrobostonnews.com/us/article/2009/01/09/02/5310-66/index.xml

I like reading the metro, because it's something to do on the train, but that's not the source you want for the most accurate information.

[Roy Hobbs]

Jeff Howe with Metro/Bostonsportsmedia.com wrote something on the topic a few weeks ago.  His math says:

• Celtics will be able to offer a five-year deal worth $95M/5 years.
• Cleveland (since NBA gives teams an advantage toward re-signing their stars) can offer James $145.1M/6 years.
• Other teams with enough cap space can offer a max contract of $113.7M/5 years.

If it's about guaranteed dollars, we're on the outside lookin' in.

Article here --> www.metrobostonnews.com/us/article/2009/01/09/02/5310-66/index.xml

This doesn't take into account cap holds, etc.  The real money we can offer is as described above.

[Roy Hobbs]

I think if LeBron was willing to come to Boston that we could find the way to create the space and I don't think we'd have to move Rondo and Perk to do it. As Threadcrasher said, LeBron needs to win period and and win multiple times to create the Legacy he wants so I think he'll be most worreid about where the best chance to do that is rather than the maximum value of his next contract ( he'll make all that up with endorsements anyway, especially if he's winning "more".)

I also beleive that Ray, Paul and KG will all eventually take paycuts to help this team stay on top and it will not be seen as and insult at all. Just the oppostie. They've all had two max contracts, all are very concerned about creating their own legacy and their legacy as a trio. What could be better than bringing in new alpha dogs to do the heavy lifting while you still get nice change in the waning years of your career while remaining crucial pieces to additional Celtics championships? it's a perfect scenario. None of these guys have any issue with letting the others shine, KG refers to Pierce as superman and is glad he can. These three watn to win, period. They've all carried the load for over a decade...by themselves. They'll gladly accept some new dogs on the block.

   

Pierce would essentially have to walk away from $20 million that he is guaranteed now, and negotiate a much smaller deal (probably no more than $5 or 6 million).  Ray would have to accept a minimum salary.  I think it's doubtful that those two things happen, and I don't think it would be fair to ask.

[ScoobyDoo]

Crownsy, will you stop waking me up man! I'm having a good time over here!

I know, you're right re the incredibale long shot that this is. But I like to think Ainge is the first guy we've had since Red who seems to have some real long term vision, skill and I think, just a little luck as well. I feel like Ainge could turn into another Mini Red when it's all said and done. And when the stakes are big like this it's when great GM's at least put themselves in a position to try and with only KG, Perk and about another $1.8 million on the book at the end of the 2009 and 2010 season ( Pierce is a player's option ), it seems that Ainge has clearly put himslef in a "position" to at least "try". All we currently have on book at the end of 2010 is about $24 Mil. I find it interesting that Pierce's final year is a "player's option". Having received two full max contracts already is it possible Pierce might just settle for $10 mil rather than his full if it meant the team was reloading for a few more championship runs?

I could also definately see Ray ok with resigning for the mid level or slightly higher if it meant estending his career and heloign win championships.

Ainge and Doc have really tried to re-create the Old Celtics system, where guys later on in their careers stayed part of the team but stepped aside to help "The Franchise" continue winning. It wouldn't suprise me to see this happen with PP and Ray...

Anyway, if not LeBron, I think Ainge is going to go gfor someone big to take some load off the big three and try to extend their careers...

    

[LarBrd33]

Roy...  What about a scenario where the Cavs realize they are losing LeBron and agree to do some kind of sign and trade so they don't end up completely lost.  Couldn't we sign Ray to a big amount and send him for LeBron?

[wdleehi]

Roy...  What about a scenario where the Cavs realize they are losing LeBron and agree to do some kind of sign and trade so they don't end up completely lost.  Couldn't we sign Ray to a big amount and send him for LeBron?

While possible, I think other teams will have more attractive, younger players to send back as well as having cap space meaning the Cavs could take back less salary.


Plus, I don't think Cleveland would want to do this scenario with a team in the East.

[ScoobyDoo]

Yeah, your'e probably right Hobbs...still, I think 2010 will be a very interesting summer for the Celtics. Ainge only has:

KG:$18,800.00
Perk: $4.3 Mil
Pierce:$21,800.00 ( Player's option )
and like another $1.8 Mil in change.

If he can't land one of the big fishes "on the sell of the Celtics" with KG, and Pierce...seems like he should be able to at least add perhaps a few real nice mid tier Vets to strengthen the bench.

Anyone know the best place to find the complete 2010 free agent list?      

[LarBrd33]

Roy...  What about a scenario where the Cavs realize they are losing LeBron and agree to do some kind of sign and trade so they don't end up completely lost.  Couldn't we sign Ray to a big amount and send him for LeBron?

While possible, I think other teams will have more attractive, younger players to send back as well as having cap space meaning the Cavs could take back less salary.


Plus, I don't think Cleveland would want to do this scenario with a team in the East.

Can we just start a thread about whether or not Boston can land Kevin Durant?  When's he available?  

[LarBrd33]

Yeah, your'e probably right Hobbs...still, I think 2010 will be a very interesting summer for the Celtics. Ainge only has:

KG:$18,800.00
Perk: $4.3 Mil
Pierce:$21,800.00 ( Player's option )
and like another $1.8 Mil in change.

If he can't land one of the big fishes "on the sell of the Celtics" with KG, and Pierce...seems like he should be able to at least add perhaps a few real nice mid tier Vets to strengthen the bench.

Anyone know the best place to find the complete 2010 free agent list?      

Please re-read what Roy has said like 90 times in 90 different threads.

We will not have cap room in 2010.

[Roy Hobbs]

Roy...  What about a scenario where the Cavs realize they are losing LeBron and agree to do some kind of sign and trade so they don't end up completely lost.  Couldn't we sign Ray to a big amount and send him for LeBron?

While possible, I think other teams will have more attractive, younger players to send back as well as having cap space meaning the Cavs could take back less salary.


Plus, I don't think Cleveland would want to do this scenario with a team in the East.

I think that's right.  It's technically possible, but unlikely.

[housecall]

In 2010 the Celtics should find the best Big their money can buy first...scorers are a dime a dozen in the NBA at the moment.

[Moranis]

Roy...  What about a scenario where the Cavs realize they are losing LeBron and agree to do some kind of sign and trade so they don't end up completely lost.  Couldn't we sign Ray to a big amount and send him for LeBron?

While possible, I think other teams will have more attractive, younger players to send back as well as having cap space meaning the Cavs could take back less salary.


Plus, I don't think Cleveland would want to do this scenario with a team in the East.

I think that's right.  It's technically possible, but unlikely.

we don't have the pieces to trade with Cleveland.  A team like Portland does and would still have enough pieces remaining that LBJ might actually want to go there.  I mean Portland could trade Aldridge (sign and trade), Bayless, Fernandez, and  Webster and still be left with a base of LBJ, Oden, and Roy

[crownsy]

Yeah, your'e probably right Hobbs...still, I think 2010 will be a very interesting summer for the Celtics. Ainge only has:

KG:$18,800.00
Perk: $4.3 Mil
Pierce:$21,800.00 ( Player's option )
and like another $1.8 Mil in change.

If he can't land one of the big fishes "on the sell of the Celtics" with KG, and Pierce...seems like he should be able to at least add perhaps a few real nice mid tier Vets to strengthen the bench.

Anyone know the best place to find the complete 2010 free agent list?      

Please re-read what Roy has said like 90 times in 90 different threads.

We will not have cap room in 2010.

TP for fighting the good fight, but people will still be convinced ray = super cap space until it doesn't happen i bet

[LarBrd33]

Yeah, your'e probably right Hobbs...still, I think 2010 will be a very interesting summer for the Celtics. Ainge only has:

KG:$18,800.00
Perk: $4.3 Mil
Pierce:$21,800.00 ( Player's option )
and like another $1.8 Mil in change.

If he can't land one of the big fishes "on the sell of the Celtics" with KG, and Pierce...seems like he should be able to at least add perhaps a few real nice mid tier Vets to strengthen the bench.

Anyone know the best place to find the complete 2010 free agent list?      

Please re-read what Roy has said like 90 times in 90 different threads.

We will not have cap room in 2010.

TP for fighting the good fight, but people will still be convinced ray = super cap space until it doesn't happen i bet

Can anyone answer me on when Kevin Durant will be a free agent?  I'd rather have him anyways.  He's going to be a god.