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The best fantasy basketball site and Why?
« on: January 16, 2009, 04:24:36 PM »

Offline JSD

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I'm in the CB yahoo league and I'm not impressed with Yahoo...

I'm at ESPN.com for my main league and I'm not feeling that either...


What is the best fantasy sports site for basketball besides the two I've mentioned above? I would really appreciate a fantasy journeyman (someone who's tried a ton of leagues) to step forward and tell me the best site hands down... I've heard CBS... is that possible?

Re: The best fantasy basketball site and Why?
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2009, 04:31:33 PM »

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CBS is fantastic, but they charge around $120 per league.  I have a long standing NBA keeper roto league that I've run through there for years and really love it.
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2009, 05:34:14 PM »

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What is it about Yahoo that you don't like?

I've only used Yahoo and NBA.com, and NBA.com was a disaster (to the point where our keeper league disintegrated, because nobody wanted to resume play on NBA.com).  I like Yahoo a lot, especially this year now that it allows for keeper settings.


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Re: The best fantasy basketball site and Why?
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2009, 05:38:41 PM »

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Yahoo is the best one I have used.  I just don't like that you have to pay for up to date stats.

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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2009, 05:48:45 PM »

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  I just don't like that you have to pay for up to date stats.

Ah, forgot about that.  Yeah, that's a downside, but I chip in the $10 or whatever it is, which gets you access to up to four leagues.

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  I just don't like that you have to pay for up to date stats.

Ah, forgot about that.  Yeah, that's a downside, but I chip in the $10 or whatever it is, which gets you access to up to four leagues.


And what do you do for that 5th league?

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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2009, 05:57:57 PM »

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  I just don't like that you have to pay for up to date stats.

Ah, forgot about that.  Yeah, that's a downside, but I chip in the $10 or whatever it is, which gets you access to up to four leagues.


And what do you do for that 5th league?

lol I have this problem too
spend the 15 bucks,  that arent a big deal at least in my humble oppinion
but I miss one team, the one in the most handsome league, just because is my 5th
I even had to open an email account just for that one
thats deffinitle a downside
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Re: The best fantasy basketball site and Why?
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2009, 06:06:04 PM »

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What is it about Yahoo that you don't like?

I've only used Yahoo and NBA.com, and NBA.com was a disaster (to the point where our keeper league disintegrated, because nobody wanted to resume play on NBA.com).  I like Yahoo a lot, especially this year now that it allows for keeper settings.


I've been using Yahoo for years and have always lamented that they didn't have keeper leagues. I know ESPN added free keeper leagues this year, but I was near certain that Yahoo still doesn't have them - at least I know my league isn't a keeper league and we all wish it was. I looked on the Yahoo site and can't see any indication of keeper leagues. Can you point me to a link or something?

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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2009, 06:34:27 PM »

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I've only used Yahoo and NBA.com, and NBA.com was a disaster (to the point where our keeper league disintegrated, because nobody wanted to resume play on NBA.com).

I believe I was in that NBA.com league... I actually much preferred the NBA's layout, front page (which supported images and links), stat tracking, and free live scoring, and I might have given it a second go around, except Ultimate Fantasy Commissioner was in an even worse state this season. And the problems Roy alludes too are of the unforgivable sort - trouble with the draft, trouble with game limits, even trouble with scoring late in the season.

As for what's wrong with Yahoo - site's league options are inexplicably narrow, including only a single H2H playoff format (six teams and first week byes); the messageboard is meager; replacing GMs is unnecessarily difficult; and Yahoo is slowest among the three free leagues in identifying player injuries, adding players (see Krstic, Nenad) and updating position eligibility.

That said, it is currently the best free league and easy to use day to day. There is just some room for improvement next season.
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2009, 06:37:52 PM »

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What is it about Yahoo that you don't like?

I've only used Yahoo and NBA.com, and NBA.com was a disaster (to the point where our keeper league disintegrated, because nobody wanted to resume play on NBA.com).  I like Yahoo a lot, especially this year now that it allows for keeper settings.


I've been using Yahoo for years and have always lamented that they didn't have keeper leagues. I know ESPN added free keeper leagues this year, but I was near certain that Yahoo still doesn't have them - at least I know my league isn't a keeper league and we all wish it was. I looked on the Yahoo site and can't see any indication of keeper leagues. Can you point me to a link or something?

Hmm, I'm not sure of a link, but I know 100% for certain that yahoo allows keeper leagues now, since I'm in three of them from last year.  I think the Commissioner will have the option of converting the league into a keeper before next year's draft. 

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Re: The best fantasy basketball site and Why?
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2009, 06:46:52 PM »

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Yahoo!

Been using it for years.  Haven't had any problems.  Love the setup.  $9.99 for stattracker across the board is a small price to pay.


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Re: The best fantasy basketball site and Why?
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2009, 07:51:36 PM »

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What is it about Yahoo that you don't like?

I've only used Yahoo and NBA.com, and NBA.com was a disaster (to the point where our keeper league disintegrated, because nobody wanted to resume play on NBA.com).  I like Yahoo a lot, especially this year now that it allows for keeper settings.


I've been using Yahoo for years and have always lamented that they didn't have keeper leagues. I know ESPN added free keeper leagues this year, but I was near certain that Yahoo still doesn't have them - at least I know my league isn't a keeper league and we all wish it was. I looked on the Yahoo site and can't see any indication of keeper leagues. Can you point me to a link or something?

Hmm, I'm not sure of a link, but I know 100% for certain that yahoo allows keeper leagues now, since I'm in three of them from last year.  I think the Commissioner will have the option of converting the league into a keeper before next year's draft. 
Ok - thanks, Roy. I looked into it a bit more and Yahoo does indeed advertise keeper leagues. My league rotates commissioners every year and maybe by setting up a new league instead of reviving the old league, you don't get the keeper option. Anyhow, I'm going to push for it next year for sure. Thanks.

Also, I agree with poster who said that Yahoo's league options are too narrow. But if they continue to make improvements each year, I may decide to stick with Yahoo...

Re: The best fantasy basketball site and Why?
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2009, 10:44:52 PM »

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hands down the most fun. they do go through staffing/financial problems now and then, but it's the most fun format.

It's set up in head to head format. Game 1 of the fantasy season concludes when every NBA team has played it's first game, Game 2 of the fantasy season concludes once every NBA team has played it's second game, etc. Due to the differences in schedule, each "fantasy" game takes place over a few days.

The format for each "game" is very simple.

You add up the "Good" for each player (Pts, Rbs, assts, stls, blks,) and subtract the "Bad" (TO's, Technical fouls), to get a player's "fantasy points". You have to set your lineup in order of how you want your players to contribute, because minutes and position count too: you get 96 guard minutes, 96 forward minutes, and 48 center minutes per game. duel position players are either GF or FG, your choice; the minutes they play would count toward the first position first then excess ones go into the next position. A typical box score would look like this:

G/F/C = minutes counted toward a specific postion
PFP = Player's total fantasy points
FP = Fantasy Points toward team total.


Player     Team       Pos      
               Rb As bl st pt to tf min G   F  C  PFP   FP
Wade      MIA  G    5  7  1  3 41  3  0  47 47  0  0   54    54
Jamison WAS  F    11 1  0  2 12  1  0  41 0  41  0   25    25
Hawes   SAC  C   DNP: Not on Active Roster 0 0 0 0  0    0
Okur      UTA  CF 11 2  0  2 20  2  0  33 0   0  33  33    33
Love      MIN  CF 15 2  1  0 16  2  0  23 0   8  15  32    32
WestbrooOKL  G    6  9  1  1 22  4  0  42 42  0    0  35    35
Wallace CHA  GF 6  3  0  4 23  1  0  41 7  34    0  35    35
ChalmersMIA  G    4  4  0  1 13  1  0  41 0   0    0  21    0
Miller  MIN  GF 4  3  1  1  8  2  0  22 0  13    0  15    8
Outlaw  POR  F    3  1  1  0 14  1  0  34 0   0    0  18    0
Boone   NJN  CF 6  2  2  0  9  2  0  25 0   0    0  17    0
Young   PHI  F    2  2  0  2 10  2  0  33 0   0    0  14    0
 
Total points: 223


Each of the above player's stats are taken from his teams' 35th game of the season. This way each matchup is not affected by playing games at different frequencies.
So you can see that Wade used 47 guard minutes and westbrook 42, meaning there were 7 left over. the next guard on the roster was Wallace, so he chipped in 7 minutes at the guard position and the rest went to the forward spot. Once you get down to Miller, you see he played 22 minutes but there were only 13 left at his position, so he contributes a proportional amount of his point total toward the team's total. This particular team did not waste any minutes, but if there are injuries or your roster is stacked with players that are very productive per minute but don't play a lot of minutes you end up wasting minutes. On the other hand, stacking your roster with players who play a lot of minutes but don't do a lot of things also hurts you.



I think this is the most fun and clever set up I've used for basketball.

Re: The best fantasy basketball site and Why?
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2009, 03:30:05 PM »

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What is it about Yahoo that you don't like?

I've only used Yahoo and NBA.com, and NBA.com was a disaster (to the point where our keeper league disintegrated, because nobody wanted to resume play on NBA.com).  I like Yahoo a lot, especially this year now that it allows for keeper settings.

I don't like the operating layout, set-up and believe it's counter intuitive to ESPN. I guess I just haven't taken the time to really explore?

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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2009, 03:35:34 PM »

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I asked this question last year and the answer I got was Yahoo. I never actually had a problem with NBA.com, always liked it. Overall, I'd probably go with Yahoo but NBA.com isn't far off, if at all.