Why didn't we consider the BIRDMAN?

[celtpinoy]

he just had a great game against DALLAS

double double ....rebounds and points....definitely seemed like the missing stats we currently need

any insights on why we snubbed him?

except for the tatoos....he does seem like a good "REFORMED" guy...he gave a good interview after the game tonight....sounded like a TEAM player to me 

[Bankshot]

I've watched a few of their games.  He's been playing well for them all season.  I have no idea why Danny didn't want to sign him.  Another terrible move, or non move.

[Who]

I'm guessing because he earned little to no time on a Hornets bench that has terrible backup big men, and because he hadn't played in the NBA for a couple of years prior to that.

Chris Andersen was by no means a sure thing which clouded the situation considerably. I wished the C's had of signed him though.

[MVP]

You also don't know if the Celtics offered Anderson a contract and he chose to go to Denver instead. If I remember correctly, Danny and Doc had dinner with the Birdman so that looks like they were trying to woo him. He might just have preferred to go to Denver where he played the first 3 years of his career and Denver had just traded Camby for nothing so there were plenty of minutes open for him.

[ssspence]

it did at the time seem like a really low risk no-brainer, especially considering the interest from the Cs when he was reinstated last year. We certainly had a group of fans here on this board of such a move this summer....

[Roy Hobbs]

Chris Andersen was by no means a sure thing which clouded the situation considerably. I wished the C's had of signed him though.

Agreed on both counts.  Also, it could be the team was worried about character and/or a relapse.  But yeah, at the time I wanted the team to sign him over POB, and I obviously still feel the same way.  Whatever Andersen's weaknesses are (man-to-man defense, mostly), POB is much worse.

The worst thing, of course, is that Andersen publicly said that he wanted to sign here.

[crownsy]

Chris Andersen was by no means a sure thing which clouded the situation considerably. I wished the C's had of signed him though.

Agreed on both counts.  Also, it could be the team was worried about character and/or a relapse.  But yeah, at the time I wanted the team to sign him over POB, and I obviously still feel the same way.  Whatever Andersen's weaknesses are (man-to-man defense, mostly), POB is much worse.

The worst thing, of course, is that Andersen publicly said that he wanted to sign here.

yea i remeber that, leads me to believe no contract was forthcoming post-workout.

[Andy Jick]

i hope the kid stays on the right path and wish him success, but i still believe he's a ticking time-bomb that could go off at any moment.

sorry, but i'm still glad we passed.

[crownsy]

i hope the kid stays on the right path and wish him success, but i still believe he's a ticking time-bomb that could go off at any moment.

sorry, but i'm still glad we passed.

it would have probley been a one year deal, i would have prefered that to the POB experiance.

[moiso]

I wanted Birdman and I don't see him as the risk/timebomb that others do.  He cleaned up his act already.  It boggles the mind that so many posters want to give Miles/Marbury types 10 chances and they think Birdman doesn't deserve a 2nd chance.

[Chris]

Chris Andersen was by no means a sure thing which clouded the situation considerably. I wished the C's had of signed him though.

Agreed on both counts.  Also, it could be the team was worried about character and/or a relapse.  But yeah, at the time I wanted the team to sign him over POB, and I obviously still feel the same way.  Whatever Andersen's weaknesses are (man-to-man defense, mostly), POB is much worse.

The worst thing, of course, is that Andersen publicly said that he wanted to sign here.

Well, I would say that Andersen's team defense is actually much worse than his man to man defense.  This tells me that he probably wouldn't have seen the floor much more than POB would.

Combine that with his questionable character, and I don't know if he would have been that much better than POB.  To me, it is just an argument over 12th men.  That is not going to change the direction of a team like the C's.  This team's problem is not their 10th-12th men, it is that they have no real 6th man.

[moiso]

I wouldn't say he's a questionable character.  The guy had a substance problem.  His performance was an issue only one year when he was drinking too much.  He's never had coach conflicts, he plays hard, he's not out getting DUI's.  I view him as Marcus Camby light.

[jdpapa3]

Well, it's not like they didn't give him a long, hard look. Didn't they have a little tryout type thing with David Harrison, POB, and Birdman?

Here's what no one is talking about: Doc could be grooming POB emotionally to be a rotation player in March. We passed on Deke. Something is up!!! The kid has looked phenomenal in his short minutes. He just has to get his head right. Maybe he wants him to get his energy so pent up that he comes out when he does play with all cylinders firing. Does he not have the talent to be a rotation player on this team? He clearly has a ton of talent. It also seems like he is very well liked on the team. KG likes this kid a lot or he wouldn't be trying to motivate him. He wouldn't be accepted on this championship level team if he weren't trying.

[Chris]

I wouldn't say he's a questionable character.  The guy had a substance problem.  His performance was an issue only one year when he was drinking too much.  He's never had coach conflicts, he plays hard, he's not out getting DUI's.  I view him as Marcus Camby light.

Ummm, he was suspended from the league for a year, because he was using controlled substances (It had to be pretty hard drugs for that particular suspension).  I am not saying he is a bad guy or anything, but the guy clearly has or had some issues.  Whether he has a true addiction, or he just had trouble making smart decisions, it absolutely, positively, constitutes "questionable character" in my book.  Now, it by no means precludes him from being signed, but it absolutely counts as a strike against him.

[ScoobyDoo]

In my other post "Rolls Royce with bicycle tires", I mentioned the two guys I thought would be great and was hoping we would add "after" we lost Posey, were:

Birdman: Thought he would have been a great compliment to Perk and KG. An all energy high flyer off the bench. I thought he and KG would have set each other off, energy wise.

Matt Barnes: Defender, three point shooter, physical player. great back up for Pierce. It baffles me that we didn't sign this guy.

Both signed for the Vet min elsewhere. I find it hard to believe they wouldn't have joined the Celtics given the chance. I think they thought POB was a better long term project and based stictly on talent alone I would agree. Whether he reaches that talent is the big question/risk they took.

Still, we could have easily signed POB as the project and put Birdman in front of him...

My guess is that they thought/think they would be able to pick up/re-sign a PJ, or a Mourning or a Mutumbo, etc. aroudn the trade deadline again and liked that better for the playoff run.

I hope so...