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Forget JJ, What would we realistically Have to give up for
« on: January 10, 2009, 02:18:15 PM »

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Linas Kleiza From Denver He's 6'8" 245 pounds athletic can shoot

Could play the three and four spot. He's 45th in the nba in three point percentage at .393 He averages almost 10 points and 4 boards in 22.6 minutes.

I'm sure you guys have seen him before he exploded against utah and had dropped 41. He's only 24. I'd much rather have him then JJ if that's what Danny thinks we need now.

So what would it really take to get him out of Giddens, Walker, Pruitt, Powe, and Tony Allen and Big Baby  . What would it take to Land him from denver's perspective. There roster is about as pathetic as it gets after the first six guys. So they really could use some depth. 

So How bout Bill Walker, Big Baby, Pruitt, And Tony Allen and a 2nd round pick For Linas Kleiza And Chris Birdman Anderson.
Is that to much to little, could you not refuse that if you were Denver? Or are you just not interested in those players?

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I think the quote from the opposing GM on the front page is correct:  the Celtics don't have anything (outside of the starters) that other teams are interested in.  I don't think the package mentioned gets us anything close to Kleiza (who the Nuggets wouldn't trade for Artest last season).

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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2009, 02:27:48 PM »

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I think the quote from the opposing GM on the front page is correct:  the Celtics don't have anything (outside of the starters) that other teams are interested in.  I don't think the package mentioned gets us anything close to Kleiza (who the Nuggets wouldn't trade for Artest last season).
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2009, 02:44:07 PM »

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Come on he's not that great He averages 9.8 points per game and 3.8 rebounds at 22.6 MPG. Tony allen 7.4 points 2.6 boards in 18.8 MpgTony also gives you more in SPG 1.o and assists 1.3

So with no depth on Denver's roster you would not consider

Tony Allen, Leon Powe, Gabe Pruitt, Billy Walker, Jr Giddens and a 1st round pick for Kleiza?

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Come on he's not that great He averages 9.8 points per game and 3.8 rebounds at 22.6 MPG. Tony allen 7.4 points 2.6 boards in 18.8 MpgTony also gives you more in SPG 1.o and assists 1.3

So with no depth on Denver's roster you would not consider

Tony Allen, Leon Powe, Gabe Pruitt, Billy Walker, Jr Giddens and a 1st round pick for Kleiza?
I don't think Danny is going to give up any more 1st round picks. I belive Minny owns the rights to our 2009 1st round pick, so it would have to be our 2011 1st round pick. Who knows how badly we might end up needing that.


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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2009, 02:55:41 PM »

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I would not give up all that For Linus freakin Kleiza. I know we don't have much but If I were Denver I'd have to think about it. Anyway this just goes to show how hard it is to trade in the Nba.

I wanna give you all the players I Don't want. And i want one of your top guys that does not start.

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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2009, 02:58:24 PM »

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Come on he's not that great He averages 9.8 points per game and 3.8 rebounds at 22.6 MPG. Tony allen 7.4 points 2.6 boards in 18.8 MpgTony also gives you more in SPG 1.o and assists 1.3

So with no depth on Denver's roster you would not consider

Tony Allen, Leon Powe, Gabe Pruitt, Billy Walker, Jr Giddens and a 1st round pick for Kleiza?

I don't think any team is going to give up five players and a pick for Kleiza.  Plus, if our problem is depth, why would the team give up two players out of its rotation and replace them with one?

Denver doesn't have the roster flexibility to take on five players, but even if they did, I don't think they'd have much interest in anybody out of that package other than Powe and maybe Walker.

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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2009, 03:17:41 PM »

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Giving up the 2011 First Round Pick for Kleiza is too much, imo.

I didn`t want to make a new thread, but what about this trade idea:

New Jersey gets:
Tony Allen
J.R Giddens
Scal
Sam Cassell (who comes back in a month a la McDyess)
2011 First Round Pick (top 3 protected)

Boston gets:
Josh Boone
Keyon Dooling
Eduardo Najera

Would solve a lot of our problems, and the Nets get rid of two contracts(Dooling, Najera, ~6.5 million) for the Summer of 2010.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2990~209~591~2367~138~3429~1021&teams=2~2~2~17~17~17~17&te=&cash=
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2009, 03:24:57 PM »

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I'd do it. We have to win now. that's the point I'm trying to make. Win at all cost. Once King James wins his first Title. That's a wrap Game Over. He might win ten in a row. We got to keep the King down while we can. Get it. Got it. Good.

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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2009, 05:09:21 PM »

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Come on he's not that great He averages 9.8 points per game and 3.8 rebounds at 22.6 MPG. Tony allen 7.4 points 2.6 boards in 18.8 MpgTony also gives you more in SPG 1.o and assists 1.3

So with no depth on Denver's roster you would not consider

Tony Allen, Leon Powe, Gabe Pruitt, Billy Walker, Jr Giddens and a 1st round pick for Kleiza?

your not the GM of denver, they are not taking any of or scrubs for that kid, they love him.

also, that trade strips us bare for one guy.

our bench post trade would be

Kleiza, BBD, house, POB, and scal.

How is that any better?
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Although I don't like this trade idea by any means... you all seem to be missing that fact that we would be receiving Chris Andersen in the deal as well and not just Kleiza.

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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2009, 05:26:57 PM »

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we're not going to get kleiza. we could however get kyle korver, which we should do.
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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2009, 05:38:06 PM »

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we're not going to get kleiza. we could however get kyle korver, which we should do.

only if he brings demi and the kids.
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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2009, 12:14:28 AM »

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we're not going to get kleiza. we could however get kyle korver, which we should do.

only if he brings demi and the kids.
I would take Korver over Reddick in a HeartBeat.  ;D

SInce we are loaded with Scrubbers and we cant trade a future number one pick, why not buy a player outright for cash? For three million, who could we get? Phoenix might give up Matt Barnes or Grant Hill. How about Gerald Wilkins? Or even Ricki Davis?  8)

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we're not going to get kleiza. we could however get kyle korver, which we should do.

only if he brings demi and the kids.
I would take Korver over Reddick in a HeartBeat.  ;D

SInce we are loaded with Scrubbers and we cant trade a future number one pick, why not buy a player outright for cash? For three million, who could we get? Phoenix might give up Matt Barnes or Grant Hill. How about Gerald Wilkins? Or even Ricki Davis?  8 )



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