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Scal, POB, and Gabe
« on: January 09, 2009, 10:55:52 PM »

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were the only one's tonight with a positive +/- while they were out there on the floor. Sure Scal and POB were in garbage time, but Gabe wasn't. This guy needs some more floor time. He made some very nice plays even without shooting the ball well. I think he gives you already what TA was giving and needs to get a lot of his minutes.

How many times does POB need to come out there and score 4-6 points in a 3-4 minute stretch and get 2-3 rebounds as well before we accept the fact that maybe he isn't as bad as people think and should see some more floor time? Once again he matched BBD's production in 1/4th the time on the floor. Nice aggressive dunk down the lane. Nice spot up jumper. It's time to get him some more run and get us some length in there. We get killed  many nights with offensive boards (surprisingly we killed them on the boards tonight though) and we could use that size.

Re: Scal, POB, and Gabe
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2009, 10:57:32 PM »

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i noticed doc went to gabe early, and overall he did well (had one crappy turnover which comes to mind).  then he was buried on the bench in the second half until garbage time.   ???

Re: Scal, POB, and Gabe
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2009, 10:58:03 PM »

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Gabe is really starting to impress me after his performance tonight. Maybe trading House should be in Ainge's plans.
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Re: Scal, POB, and Gabe
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2009, 10:58:17 PM »

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I have not been impressed at all with POB, but at this point there is nothing to lose with playing him.

Re: Scal, POB, and Gabe
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2009, 11:05:57 PM »

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I have not been impressed at all with POB, but at this point there is nothing to lose with playing him.

Everyone on here that disagrees with giving POB more time makes general broad comments like that to say he shouldn't get time. The only reasons given are that he is supposedly lazy and is slow to rotate on defense. Can you tell me what it is about his 58% shooting and 2 rebounds in about 4 minutes a game the guy gets to go along with his points you aren't impressed by?! Can you tell me what is so impressive about the guy in front of him who really is just a fat SF with his 4 pts and 3 rebounds with 38% shooting in 16 minutes?! He has so many flaws in his game that to blame POB's flaws as the reason to have him sit is just plain ridiculous.

Re: Scal, POB, and Gabe
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2009, 11:22:49 PM »

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Pruitt is just getting started. His opportunities should continue to increase and if he does well with them he's there. I wouldn't worry about him getting those opportunities, I think they'll come, we just need some patience while Doc gets comfortable with him. We'll see how he does once he gets a consistent amount of minutes and games and what type of role he can play for the club this season.

I don't think Scal or O'Bryant are answers to anything the Celtics. Scal is playing about as much this team can get away with already, he just doesn't contribute enough when on the floor to get longer court time. Scal is a serviceable player but only at the role he's playing, or preferably even less. I don't like O'Bryant's defense or soft interior play.

I'd like to see Powe play some more minutes, in particular more minutes than Davis. See how he does playing 18-19 minutes a night instead of 15.

Re: Scal, POB, and Gabe
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2009, 11:25:09 PM »

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All 3 of these players mentioned in the topic are crap.

What do you people see in Gabe?  If he got cut tomorrow I wouldn't care.  He's a nobody.

Scal is a league-wide joke.

POB?  blah

Re: Scal, POB, and Gabe
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2009, 11:28:54 PM »

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All 3 of these players mentioned in the topic are crap.

What do you people see in Gabe?  If he got cut tomorrow I wouldn't care.  He's a nobody.

Scal is a league-wide joke.

POB?  blah

i agree with scal and pob...but i think gabe has a shot to turn into a servicable role player (not necessarily this season tho).  i have no problem giving gabe some more meaningful minutes, perhaps 5 more minutes per game. 

Re: Scal, POB, and Gabe
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2009, 11:29:58 PM »

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were the only one's tonight with a positive +/- while they were out there on the floor. Sure Scal and POB were in garbage time, but Gabe wasn't. This guy needs some more floor time. He made some very nice plays even without shooting the ball well. I think he gives you already what TA was giving and needs to get a lot of his minutes.

How many times does POB need to come out there and score 4-6 points in a 3-4 minute stretch and get 2-3 rebounds as well before we accept the fact that maybe he isn't as bad as people think and should see some more floor time? Once again he matched BBD's production in 1/4th the time on the floor. Nice aggressive dunk down the lane. Nice spot up jumper. It's time to get him some more run and get us some length in there. We get killed  many nights with offensive boards (surprisingly we killed them on the boards tonight though) and we could use that size.

Here,here!! POB 48 min stats are something along the lines of 17-16 and 4 blks the last time I looked! Garbage time--absolutely, but if that's all he's getting that's all he can do! He did look good tonite and definitely deserves a few quality minutes-- if nothing else to better evaluate him and make a decision to keep him or not!

Re: Scal, POB, and Gabe
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2009, 11:30:03 PM »

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players 9-12 on the depth chart shouldn't be playing unless we're blowing people out, so i'm not sure what the infatuation is with these 3 players...i know people want to see more of gabe, but i think he's average at best.

the problem on our rosters is with players 1-8 on our depth chart...until they play with the same intensity they did last year this season will go down as an utter disappointment, starting with danny ainge who failed to strengthen the bench this offseason.
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Re: Scal, POB, and Gabe
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2009, 11:36:14 PM »

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players 9-12 on the depth chart shouldn't be playing unless we're blowing people out, so i'm not sure what the infatuation is with these 3 players...i know people want to see more of gabe, but i think he's average at best.

the problem on our rosters is with players 1-8 on our depth chart...until they play with the same intensity they did last year this season will go down as an utter disappointment, starting with danny ainge who failed to strengthen the bench this offseason.

Think the infatuation with them is that players 6-8 are for the most part playing like crap! Ditto rookies---if you aren't going to give them a shot when circumstances cry out for it, why draft them---just pass!  It's why they call it a TEAM!

Re: Scal, POB, and Gabe
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2009, 11:41:09 PM »

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players 9-12 on the depth chart shouldn't be playing unless we're blowing people out, so i'm not sure what the infatuation is with these 3 players...i know people want to see more of gabe, but i think he's average at best.

the problem on our rosters is with players 1-8 on our depth chart...until they play with the same intensity they did last year this season will go down as an utter disappointment, starting with danny ainge who failed to strengthen the bench this offseason.

I agree, but my argument is that having BBD in the top 8 isn't any more effective than if you put POB in that slot. I'm not saying that we should put POB out there with the starters against the other teams starting center. I am saying we should put him out there on the second unit against their second unit center. He has shown a very nice offensive touch, an ability to rebound and finish around the rim, and to block or alter shots in the paint. You can't say the same thing for BBD who happens to be somehow in that top 8. There's a reason that in the playoffs last year he was in that 9-12 stretch. That's where his talent level is at presently.

Re: Scal, POB, and Gabe
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2009, 11:48:24 PM »

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players 9-12 on the depth chart shouldn't be playing unless we're blowing people out, so i'm not sure what the infatuation is with these 3 players...i know people want to see more of gabe, but i think he's average at best.

the problem on our rosters is with players 1-8 on our depth chart...until they play with the same intensity they did last year this season will go down as an utter disappointment, starting with danny ainge who failed to strengthen the bench this offseason.

I agree, but my argument is that having BBD in the top 8 isn't any more effective than if you put POB in that slot. I'm not saying that we should put POB out there with the starters against the other teams starting center. I am saying we should put him out there on the second unit against their second unit center. He has shown a very nice offensive touch, an ability to rebound and finish around the rim, and to block or alter shots in the paint. You can't say the same thing for BBD who happens to be somehow in that top 8. There's a reason that in the playoffs last year he was in that 9-12 stretch. That's where his talent level is at presently.

agreed...and my concern is that i'm not seeing much in the way of improvement this season in BBD or Powe.  tony allen still sucks but i have little in the way of expectations out of him anyway.  but since danny has chosen to forego a quality backup center (and please, not POB) then he's rolling the dice on 2 undersize bigs that have to bring it each night...and they're not.
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Re: Scal, POB, and Gabe
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2009, 12:09:01 AM »

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All 3 of these players mentioned in the topic are crap.

What do you people see in Gabe?  If he got cut tomorrow I wouldn't care.  He's a nobody.

Scal is a league-wide joke.

POB?  blah

How do you know this re: Gabe? He's played like four minutes all season. From what I've seen, he's got potential. A decent shooter, good handle, careful with the ball. May be lacking in defense, but why not give him a shot?