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Re: newly waived free agents
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2009, 11:17:58 AM »

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I don't think Baby needs replacing. He needs augmenting, or potentially trading. It's not his fault he's 6'7", even if he is 300lbs. We need 15 minutes of hieght, which is why i'm perplexed we didn't make an offer to Deke (there must a story there -- like, 'if we give you x, will you sign?' 'well, i owe it to houston to go back to them' or whatever).

He is who he is, and he's a valuable role guy. Not like he's getting any help from the rest of the 2nd unit....

We did offer Deke, he declined.

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Re: newly waived free agents
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2009, 11:23:35 AM »

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The funniest thing is this. Last year, we were unproven and the additions of Posey, House and Pollard were all we could get. They didn't exactly make headlines. We go on to sign PJ and Sam, win the Championship and immediately assume everyone is going to want to come here. It's safe to say that Patrick O'Bryant wasn't exactly what we were expecting.

I don't know. There's no one really worth taking a shot at. Croshere probably wouldn't make a difference, Fred Jones isn't as good as Tony Allen and everyone else doesn't belong anywhere near this roster. Truth be known, I'd love us to sign Marbury. He is an idiot, but he's an idiot with talent. Joe Smith wont happen, so I'm left hoping for PJ; and even that is clutching at straws.

Re: newly waived free agents
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2009, 11:32:12 AM »

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The funniest thing is this. Last year, we were unproven and the additions of Posey, House and Pollard were all we could get. They didn't exactly make headlines. We go on to sign PJ and Sam, win the Championship and immediately assume everyone is going to want to come here. It's safe to say that Patrick O'Bryant wasn't exactly what we were expecting.

I don't know. There's no one really worth taking a shot at. Croshere probably wouldn't make a difference, Fred Jones isn't as good as Tony Allen and everyone else doesn't belong anywhere near this roster. Truth be known, I'd love us to sign Marbury. He is an idiot, but he's an idiot with talent. Joe Smith wont happen, so I'm left hoping for PJ; and even that is clutching at straws.

mabey we can get the bobcats GM drunk and convice him its a good idea to waive howard.
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Re: newly waived free agents
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2009, 11:35:45 AM »

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Darius Miles was waived by the Memphis Grizzlies.

http://www.thememphisedge.com/2009/01/06/grizzlies-waive-miles/


Re: newly waived free agents
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2009, 12:08:24 PM »

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Not that I believe the Celtics will have any interest in him, but Golden State on Monday waived DeMarcus Nelson. The undrafted guard from Duke was the team's starting point guard opening night. While with the Warriors he averaged 13.1 minutes, 4.1 points and 1.0 assist.

The Warriors used the roster spot to sign Jermareo Davidson to a 10-day contract. Davidson was a 2007 second-round pick by Golden State who had been playing for the Idaho Stampede in the D-League.

Three other Warriors are playing without guaranteed contracts, point guard C.J. Watson, forward Rob Kurz and swingman Anthony Morrow, but Nelson has said the three are in no danger of being let go.

Re: newly waived free agents
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2009, 12:23:49 PM »

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I posted this information in another thread, I thought it might be useful here since Lucky17 mentioned the thread and since it's a sticky thread covering these players over the next few days, so I re-posted it here.

Here's the list ESPN made on their weekend dime of players with non-guaranteed contracts.

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All contracts are guaranteed for the rest of the season if a player is on a roster as of Jan. 10 or has not cleared waivers before 6 p.m. on Friday, Jan 9.

Teams will thus be required to shed any player deemed surplus to requirements by 6 p.m. Wednesday.

The 25 players facing the greatest risk over the next few days, all of whom are working on minimum deals:

Mario West (Atlanta); Juwan Howard (Charlotte); Lindsey Hunter and Michael Ruffin (Chicago); Jawad Williams (Cleveland); Rob Kurz, Anthony Morrow, DeMarcus Nelson and C.J. Watson (Golden State); Von Wafer (Houston); Paul Davis and Fred Jones (Los Angeles Clippers); Josh Powell (Los Angeles Lakers); Darius Miles (Memphis); Shaun Livingston and Jamaal Magloire (Miami); Austin Croshere (Milwaukee); Kevin Ollie (Minnesota); Sean Marks (New Orleans); Jeremy Richardson (Orlando); Dee Brown (Phoenix); Malik Hairston and Anthony Tolliver (San Antonio); Jake Voskuhl (Toronto); Juan Dixon (Washington).

Thanks, Who.

In my opinion, veteran big men on this list that might be of some help to us in shoring up the bench include Howard, Ruffin, Marks, and Voskuhl. None of these guys would be high impact signings, admittedly.

I'd be shocked if Magloire were cut by Miami.
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Re: newly waived free agents
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2009, 12:25:49 PM »

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Darius Miles was waived by the Memphis Grizzlies.

http://www.thememphisedge.com/2009/01/06/grizzlies-waive-miles/



So far, he may be the most interesting player.  Although I think he looked a long way away in the preseason, if he has continued to progress, he might be worth a look on a 10 day contract, now that his suspension has ended.

Of course I have a feeling Walker could give us more at this point.

Re: newly waived free agents
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2009, 12:41:14 PM »

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Darius Miles was waived by the Memphis Grizzlies.

http://www.thememphisedge.com/2009/01/06/grizzlies-waive-miles/



So far, he may be the most interesting player.  Although I think he looked a long way away in the preseason, if he has continued to progress, he might be worth a look on a 10 day contract, now that his suspension has ended.

Of course I have a feeling Walker could give us more at this point.

I agree completely on Walker, but how can you think that Miles could help us?! He is obviously either still too injured to contribute or Memphis wouldn't be cutting him, or they realized what Danny did and that was the guy physically is a very slow player that has lost his athleticism due to a sad injury situation. Guys on here are complaining about our old guys having trouble keeping with their man. I think I could beat Miles to the rim. As much as I hate TA, I'd rather see HIM getting the time. (That hurt to say that last part)

Re: newly waived free agents
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2009, 12:47:46 PM »

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Darius Miles was waived by the Memphis Grizzlies.

http://www.thememphisedge.com/2009/01/06/grizzlies-waive-miles/



So far, he may be the most interesting player.  Although I think he looked a long way away in the preseason, if he has continued to progress, he might be worth a look on a 10 day contract, now that his suspension has ended.

Of course I have a feeling Walker could give us more at this point.

I agree completely on Walker, but how can you think that Miles could help us?! He is obviously either still too injured to contribute or Memphis wouldn't be cutting him, or they realized what Danny did and that was the guy physically is a very slow player that has lost his athleticism due to a sad injury situation. Guys on here are complaining about our old guys having trouble keeping with their man. I think I could beat Miles to the rim. As much as I hate TA, I'd rather see HIM getting the time. (That hurt to say that last part)

he actually looked pretty good in his limited playing time.

But i agree we have darius on the roster already, pre injury. He plays for our utah affilite and wacked his head on the backboard last night trying to impress his boss with his defensive commitment  ;)

bring walker back with you danny.
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Re: newly waived free agents
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2009, 12:59:09 PM »

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The funniest thing is this. Last year, we were unproven and the additions of Posey, House and Pollard were all we could get. They didn't exactly make headlines. We go on to sign PJ and Sam, win the Championship and immediately assume everyone is going to want to come here. It's safe to say that Patrick O'Bryant wasn't exactly what we were expecting.

I don't know. There's no one really worth taking a shot at. Croshere probably wouldn't make a difference, Fred Jones isn't as good as Tony Allen and everyone else doesn't belong anywhere near this roster. Truth be known, I'd love us to sign Marbury. He is an idiot, but he's an idiot with talent. Joe Smith wont happen, so I'm left hoping for PJ; and even that is clutching at straws.

TP.  That pretty much sums up my thinking as well, especially the last two sentences.
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Re: newly waived free agents
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2009, 01:02:18 PM »

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I don't think Baby needs replacing. He needs augmenting, or potentially trading. It's not his fault he's 6'7", even if he is 300lbs. We need 15 minutes of hieght, which is why i'm perplexed we didn't make an offer to Deke (there must a story there -- like, 'if we give you x, will you sign?' 'well, i owe it to houston to go back to them' or whatever).

He is who he is, and he's a valuable role guy. Not like he's getting any help from the rest of the 2nd unit....

We did offer Deke, he declined.

What evidence do you have of that?
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Re: newly waived free agents
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2009, 01:04:05 PM »

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I don't think Baby needs replacing. He needs augmenting, or potentially trading. It's not his fault he's 6'7", even if he is 300lbs. We need 15 minutes of hieght, which is why i'm perplexed we didn't make an offer to Deke (there must a story there -- like, 'if we give you x, will you sign?' 'well, i owe it to houston to go back to them' or whatever).

He is who he is, and he's a valuable role guy. Not like he's getting any help from the rest of the 2nd unit....

We did offer Deke, he declined.

What evidence do you have of that?

there were several articles that qouted both doc and danny saying that they had talked with his agent, and that he wasent intersted in coming to boston.
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Re: newly waived free agents
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2009, 01:07:50 PM »

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I don't think Baby needs replacing. He needs augmenting, or potentially trading. It's not his fault he's 6'7", even if he is 300lbs. We need 15 minutes of hieght, which is why i'm perplexed we didn't make an offer to Deke (there must a story there -- like, 'if we give you x, will you sign?' 'well, i owe it to houston to go back to them' or whatever).

He is who he is, and he's a valuable role guy. Not like he's getting any help from the rest of the 2nd unit....

We did offer Deke, he declined.

What evidence do you have of that?

there were several articles that qouted both doc and danny saying that they had talked with his agent, and that he wasent intersted in coming to boston.

there were also a number of articles that indicated that they never made him an offer, including one where deke himself (not that we must believe him) stated that he had interest in the Cs, but they weren't ready to commit as they wanted to keep their options open for now.
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Re: newly waived free agents
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2009, 01:09:49 PM »

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I don't think Baby needs replacing. He needs augmenting, or potentially trading. It's not his fault he's 6'7", even if he is 300lbs. We need 15 minutes of hieght, which is why i'm perplexed we didn't make an offer to Deke (there must a story there -- like, 'if we give you x, will you sign?' 'well, i owe it to houston to go back to them' or whatever).

He is who he is, and he's a valuable role guy. Not like he's getting any help from the rest of the 2nd unit....

We did offer Deke, he declined.

What evidence do you have of that?

there were several articles that qouted both doc and danny saying that they had talked with his agent, and that he wasent intersted in coming to boston.

there were also a number of articles that indicated that they never made him an offer, including one where deke himself (not that we must believe him) stated that he had interest in the Cs, but they weren't ready to commit as they wanted to keep their options open for now.

so at best you could be right that they didn't offer because his agent said don't bother.

Deke was never coming here for the vet min, which is all we could (and im willing to wager did) have offered.
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Re: newly waived free agents
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2009, 01:24:07 PM »

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I don't think Baby needs replacing. He needs augmenting, or potentially trading. It's not his fault he's 6'7", even if he is 300lbs. We need 15 minutes of hieght, which is why i'm perplexed we didn't make an offer to Deke (there must a story there -- like, 'if we give you x, will you sign?' 'well, i owe it to houston to go back to them' or whatever).

He is who he is, and he's a valuable role guy. Not like he's getting any help from the rest of the 2nd unit....

We did offer Deke, he declined.

What evidence do you have of that?

there were several articles that qouted both doc and danny saying that they had talked with his agent, and that he wasent intersted in coming to boston.

there were also a number of articles that indicated that they never made him an offer, including one where deke himself (not that we must believe him) stated that he had interest in the Cs, but they weren't ready to commit as they wanted to keep their options open for now.

so at best you could be right that they didn't offer because his agent said don't bother.

Deke was never coming here for the vet min, which is all we could have offered.

He makes the min in Houston. I'm not telling you i think he was ever coming here (as evidenced in my post above), just pointing out that PR has told us the Cs never made him an offer:

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2009/01/04/help_wanted_but_theres_no_big_hurry/
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