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Re: Easily Doc's worse coaching job in a long time.
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2008, 02:23:23 PM »

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You can only put half the blame on Doc.




The other half has to go on Ainge for giving Doc a team with only two playable guys tall enough to be an NBA C (with one of them playing PF all the time) 


With out a true C that is playable (POB is not playable), Doc has to be more creative with his rotation, and that is just not one of his strengths as a coach.

So none of the blame goes on the players? Interesting.

Re: Easily Doc's worse coaching job in a long time.
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2008, 02:35:22 PM »

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Would've been a GREAT night for Cassell, esp when Ray fouled out, but if we proceeded to lose after that, the firestorm would have been even greater.

Do you really think Cassell is going to come in 31 games into the season and be relevent at crunch time in his first game back?

I'm a lot more concerned with Rivers blaming the second unit for the loss in the press conference. That's panic-mode stupidity on Rivers' part.  They're 27-4 for God's sakes.


Re: Easily Doc's worse coaching job in a long time.
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2008, 02:36:44 PM »

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I also have been a huge fan of Doc's even in the bad times, and I agree with this 100% Nick. All we needed to win this game last night was for Doc to call a time out when the lead slipped down to 4-5 late and have him get his YELL on. They needed to be insulted as a group for their horrible lackluster effort and fired up to get out there. KG wasn't even into it and without Perk out their either to get nasty the whole team just kind of didn't care. Doc could have put an end to that by personally challenging KG. 

It is easy to make up hypothetical situations and claim we would have won, but it is still just hypothetical and conjecture.

Re: Easily Doc's worse coaching job in a long time.
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2008, 02:38:00 PM »

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You can only put half the blame on Doc.




The other half has to go on Ainge for giving Doc a team with only two playable guys tall enough to be an NBA C (with one of them playing PF all the time) 


With out a true C that is playable (POB is not playable), Doc has to be more creative with his rotation, and that is just not one of his strengths as a coach.

So none of the blame goes on the players? Interesting.

The 3rd half of the blame goes to the players
Yup

Re: Easily Doc's worse coaching job in a long time.
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2008, 03:19:23 PM »

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You can only put half the blame on Doc.




The other half has to go on Ainge for giving Doc a team with only two playable guys tall enough to be an NBA C (with one of them playing PF all the time) 


With out a true C that is playable (POB is not playable), Doc has to be more creative with his rotation, and that is just not one of his strengths as a coach.

So none of the blame goes on the players? Interesting.

The 3rd half of the blame goes to the players
Classic!  ;D

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« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2008, 03:28:47 PM »

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I also have been a huge fan of Doc's even in the bad times, and I agree with this 100% Nick. All we needed to win this game last night was for Doc to call a time out when the lead slipped down to 4-5 late and have him get his YELL on. They needed to be insulted as a group for their horrible lackluster effort and fired up to get out there. KG wasn't even into it and without Perk out their either to get nasty the whole team just kind of didn't care. Doc could have put an end to that by personally challenging KG. 

It is easy to make up hypothetical situations and claim we would have won, but it is still just hypothetical and conjecture.

If that is your thought process, then why don't we just shut this blog down?! There is no reason for us to be posting anything, because everything on here is hypothetical and conjecture. Do you think anyone on here is dumb enough to believe that what they are throwing out there as discussion and suggestions for improvement is 100% guaranteed to work?! Why all the personal attacks guava? You're always trying to pick a fight with me or trying to show me up. Are you that bored?!

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« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2008, 03:35:37 PM »

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IMO these are the types of games where we really miss Pose...even more so than the Lakers game...

we just don't have a guy that can step over to the 4 and speed things up...especially with no Perk.

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« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2008, 04:14:22 PM »

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You can only put half the blame on Doc.




The other half has to go on Ainge for giving Doc a team with only two playable guys tall enough to be an NBA C (with one of them playing PF all the time) 


With out a true C that is playable (POB is not playable), Doc has to be more creative with his rotation, and that is just not one of his strengths as a coach.

true and a TP, come on joe smith!
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« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2008, 04:21:38 PM »

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A shot blocker helps a lot against drive and kicks. There is less of a need for the defense to collapse. Plus, it would have put S. Jackson on Garnett or Powe. He'd actually had to work on defense which might have hurt his offense.

So are you saying Jackson didn't have to work to defend Pierce?

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« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2008, 04:41:35 PM »

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In all my years of playing basketball, I much rather guard a perimeter player my own size than a post player much bigger than me. I'm guessing, Jackson feels the same. :-\
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« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2008, 04:42:46 PM »

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You can only put half the blame on Doc.




The other half has to go on Ainge for giving Doc a team with only two playable guys tall enough to be an NBA C (with one of them playing PF all the time) 


With out a true C that is playable (POB is not playable), Doc has to be more creative with his rotation, and that is just not one of his strengths as a coach.
TP...this about covers it.

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« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2008, 09:02:40 PM »

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You can only put half the blame on Doc.




The other half has to go on Ainge for giving Doc a team with only two playable guys tall enough to be an NBA C (with one of them playing PF all the time) 


With out a true C that is playable (POB is not playable), Doc has to be more creative with his rotation, and that is just not one of his strengths as a coach.

So none of the blame goes on the players? Interesting.


I am talking about the blame of the rotation issues that came up in this game. 


Players take their blame for what they do on the court.

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« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2008, 09:10:55 PM »

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Building a roster with one legitimate center - who has shoulders made of swiss cheese - isn't Doc's issue.
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Re: Easily Doc's worse coaching job in a long time.
« Reply #29 on: December 28, 2008, 05:11:04 PM »

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i really think that the loss is becuase of the loss of perkins, and all this does is show him importance to the team... so go perk!