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Re: Too much rondo
« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2008, 08:33:36 AM »

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Emphatically...No, not too much Rondo...The more anyone other than GPA contributes,  effectively, be it by aggression, hustle or whatever, prolongs GPA's careers and thus our window for championships....Never, ever forget the lesson we (and Ainge only too intimately, by the way)learned from '86-90 and beyond in terms of the long term ramifications on the franchise of what KC did. Because of Len Bias'death, he ground the Big Three into the ground and with them our future for 20+ years with not even a sniff of a championship to show for it.

Keep pushing, Rajon and everyone else.......More championships to have a crack at!!

As an aside, PP may be still dinged from the hyperextension...

Re: Too much rondo
« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2008, 08:48:18 AM »

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On Rondo, it's pretty hard to argue with his decision making (ie deciding to shoot more of late) coming off a game where he shot 12-14 (86%). It would be one thing if he was taking a ton of bad shots, but when he is getting the looks, he needs to take them. Then when teams try to clamp down on him, that's when the passing lanes open up....for now, i have no problem with what Rondo is doing.

On Pierce, my read on his body language is that he is pretty banged up right now. I wouldn't mind seeing him get a couple of games off come the new year...

Re: Too much rondo
« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2008, 09:29:07 AM »

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Rondo, keep up the good work.
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Re: Too much rondo
« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2008, 10:42:19 AM »

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  I was thinking about starting a thread entitled "Not Enough Rondo". Rajon barely cracks the top 20 for PGs for minutes played. He should get another 4-5 minutes a game.

Re: Too much rondo
« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2008, 10:43:35 AM »

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I think hes being a little to aggresive on the offensive end. He needs to be more of a pure point guard. He has been taking a ton of shots, a lot of nights he has the most field goal attempts. We play better as a team when he has 15 assists then when he has 26 points and 5 assists. I think he is one of the reasons why Pierce has been not so aggresive offensively and is becoming frustrated with Rondo and the rest of the offense.

/shakehead. this might be the funniest thread start of the year.

for one thing, your example is flawed. he took so many shots last night because the knicks decided to play off him and deny the ball to his teamates. (if you watched, they all stuck to thier man in the third, and ignored penitration by rajon no matter what. thats why every layup was uncontested, lee wouldn't come off KG and Harringon wouldn't come off perk to help duhon. this was exactly the opposite of what they did in the first half, where you might notice rondo was in much more of a passing mode off the drive.)

what would you have liked him to have done, turned the ball over on passes to covered people or take uncontested layups? I'll take the uncontested layups.

honestly people, one of the most effiecent shooting nights of all time (by a celtics PG) and people have thier panties in a bunch because paul took 3 less shots. Also, way to project on paul your feelings that he's being left out of the gameplan (utterly false btw) I can assure you the captain isn't concerned that rondo is taking easy buckets over throwing crazy kickout passes to him while he's covered.
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Re: Too much rondo
« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2008, 10:44:03 AM »

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This post is the exact opposite of my thinking.  Rondo has been near perfect of late, and Pierce has deferred appropriately.  18 straight wins!  Cmon!

Re: Too much rondo*
« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2008, 10:46:43 AM »

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*Not enough Rondo

Re: Too much rondo
« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2008, 11:15:40 AM »

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this could be right up there for contention of "worst post ever"... Rondo is the only non big man in the top 20 in field goal percentage, why wouldnt we want him shooting and driving? Plus when Rondo scores 10 points or more we are 17-0, how can you argue against that??

Re: Too much rondo
« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2008, 11:23:54 AM »

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 This is what the Doc tor ordered,take more shots Rondo.

Re: Too much rondo
« Reply #39 on: December 22, 2008, 11:54:32 AM »

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First, If another team is letting you go to the hola at will, that's what you do. I only remember one jumper (which he hit) from Rondo all night. Are you suggesting that he passes the ball to someone for a jump shot when he has an uncontested lay up?

As for Pierce, I agree with thoughs who believe he's a little banded up and is sort of pacing himself. It doesn't appear to me that he is upset, but he seems pretty happy when the other guys are playing well. That being said, he's still capable of bring any game home in the 4th, if needed.

Re: Too much rondo
« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2008, 12:04:34 PM »

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Let's look at some numbers:

The C's are 26 and 2. 18 W's in a row.
Rondo shot 12 of 14 from the field.
That's a whopping 85.7 FG pct...

No such thing as "too aggressive"!

Wow! If Rondo could make foul shots, he would be dangerous. I know he missed at least 3 FT's last night. That is all he needs at this point is shooting FT's and we can put him up there with Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Devon Harris (NJ is surprising me this year) and certainly above Gilbert Arenas (I'm not a Gilbert Arenas fan).
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Re: Too much rondo
« Reply #41 on: December 22, 2008, 12:18:04 PM »

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just imagine how GREAT he would be if he could actually shoot the ball...
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Re: Too much rondo
« Reply #42 on: December 22, 2008, 12:44:22 PM »

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Let's look at some numbers:

The C's are 26 and 2. 18 W's in a row.
Rondo shot 12 of 14 from the field.
That's a whopping 85.7 FG pct...

No such thing as "too aggressive"!

Wow! If Rondo could make foul shots, he would be dangerous. I know he missed at least 3 FT's last night. That is all he needs at this point is shooting FT's and we can put him up there with Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Devon Harris (NJ is surprising me this year) and certainly above Gilbert Arenas (I'm not a Gilbert Arenas fan).

all those guys can shoot a jumpshot.

while right now rondo's lack of shooting range can be covered up (he's not a main option the other defense can close down realibly while leaving GPA unattended) what happens when one or two of the boys move on and more teams cut rondo's lane off/ double him while letting his teamates carry the load?

I'm a big rajon fan, but he needs to add a confident midrange/ 3 pt jumper before he can be in the CP3/Dwill/Agent zero/ harris class of PG. Those are franchise PG's. Rondo is a very good PG with 3 Franchise options around him, there's a diffrence in how i measure thier contributions.

I question wheather Rondo could carry a team as its alpha dog with good talent around him instead of great talent and a playmaker role like he has now. Those other guys I don't (mabey harris a bit)

not saying I don't think he'll get there, but he's not thier at the moment.
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Re: Too much rondo
« Reply #43 on: December 22, 2008, 02:01:42 PM »

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Let's look at some numbers:

The C's are 26 and 2. 18 W's in a row.
Rondo shot 12 of 14 from the field.
That's a whopping 85.7 FG pct...

No such thing as "too aggressive"!

Wow! If Rondo could make foul shots, he would be dangerous. I know he missed at least 3 FT's last night. That is all he needs at this point is shooting FT's and we can put him up there with Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Devon Harris (NJ is surprising me this year) and certainly above Gilbert Arenas (I'm not a Gilbert Arenas fan).
Even with Rondo's 2-5 performance at the free throw line last night he is still shooting 73.3% on his FT for the month of December, a span of ten games where he has been 33-45. Over his last 18 games he's hitting over 72% of his FTs.

He's getting much better at it.

Re: Too much rondo
« Reply #44 on: December 22, 2008, 02:15:19 PM »

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Let's look at some numbers:

The C's are 26 and 2. 18 W's in a row.
Rondo shot 12 of 14 from the field.
That's a whopping 85.7 FG pct...

No such thing as "too aggressive"!

Wow! If Rondo could make foul shots, he would be dangerous. I know he missed at least 3 FT's last night. That is all he needs at this point is shooting FT's and we can put him up there with Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Devon Harris (NJ is surprising me this year) and certainly above Gilbert Arenas (I'm not a Gilbert Arenas fan).

all those guys can shoot a jumpshot.

while right now rondo's lack of shooting range can be covered up (he's not a main option the other defense can close down realibly while leaving GPA unattended) what happens when one or two of the boys move on and more teams cut rondo's lane off/ double him while letting his teamates carry the load?

I'm a big rajon fan, but he needs to add a confident midrange/ 3 pt jumper before he can be in the CP3/Dwill/Agent zero/ harris class of PG. Those are franchise PG's. Rondo is a very good PG with 3 Franchise options around him, there's a diffrence in how i measure thier contributions.

I question wheather Rondo could carry a team as its alpha dog with good talent around him instead of great talent and a playmaker role like he has now. Those other guys I don't (mabey harris a bit)

not saying I don't think he'll get there, but he's not thier at the moment.
Agreed,and to add T.Parker to the list,he didn't have a midrange or any jumpshot of consistency in the beginning,but as time past he developed a few  consistent shots.tp for your post.