That's the way I'm leaning too.  When I first saw it I was like, that would really help the Cavs A LOT.  But after thinking about it for a few, I really think that Varejao is a perfect compliment type of player for Lebron.  Plus, how would Marion feel about having to defer to Lebron all the time?

Marion is still darn good.  That would help the Cavs in the long run.  It's not like Wally does a ton for them.  

If it doesn't help them beat Boston this year, it doesn't matter. At least not to me. The only benefit I see for Cleveland is that they hope to use Marion's expiring money to bring in a bunch of talent to convince LeBron to stay in Cleveland in 2010. If that happens, it will definitely help the franchise in the long run.

But I don't see this deal improving the Cavs this year - I think it hurts them.

Here's my question, is LeBron more likely to stay if they spend a bunch of money on free agents next year (after losing in the EC Finals) or if they win a title this year? I think the latter is more likely to convince him to stay. And I think they'll have a better chance of winning this year if they don't tinker - especially not for Marion.

Verajoa is so freakin overrated its hilarious. Wally is hardly a difference maker at this point in his career. Marion is a beast

That's funny, I was thinking just the opposite. Varejeo has always been valued for his scrappy energy, but this year his stats are better - shooting something like 59% from the field, rebounds are up. On the other hand, everyone thinks of Marion as this superstar type - only he's been playing like crap all year.

Obviously, Marion is better than Varejeo, but for what the Cavs are trying to do this year, I'd rather have Wally and Varejeo than bring Marion in.

This trade sounds great. I'd love it if Cleveland put a SF who can't shoot next to there SF who can't shoot. Oh and they lose a rebounding, defending, hustle guy at the same time.  Last thing the Celtics need is for Cleveland to have a dead eye 3point shooter to space the floor for Lebron, or a Big physical rebounding hustle guy to bug KG. I don't see how this isn't a win for the Celtics.

Not scared of Shawn Marion..isnt great alongside wade, would be even worse alongside Lebron, he's a known locker room cancer who wants to be "the man"...

Quote from: celticsmaniac on December 16, 2008, 03:59:02 PM

I PRAY that this doesn't happen.

Verajoa is so freakin overrated its hilarious. Wally is hardly a difference maker at this point in his career. Marion is a beast

Completely Disagree
Shawn Marion is not a beast, he's highly overrated and a cancer (why do you think Miami doesnt want him) if he was so great, they would want to keep him paired with Dwade.

Vareajo is the cavs best post defender and a great energy guy that is having one of his best years

Miami doesn't want him because they want Boozer this offseason, and can't afford both.  Not to mention they already have a SF in Beasley.

In playoffs, the name of the game is defense.

This is why Shawn Marion doesn't scare me.

I actually thought the combination of Verajeo and Joe Smith was relatively effective against Boston in the playoffs last year, and i think that Ben Wallace does a decent job of bodying up KG on defense.  If the Cavs were to aquire Marion, they'd obviously become a more dynamic offensive team, but defensively they'd be slightly worse.

Shawn Marion would need 30+ minutes a night (playoffs included), his ego demands it.  That means that they'd go from matching up KG with Verajeo/Wallace/Smith to basically KG v Shawn Marion.  I don't think that the added offensive threat makes up for the lost bulk/defensive aggresiveness that they lose with this move.

Mike Brown knows defense.  Ferry needs to bring guys in who will buy into his teachings.  I don't think it would hurt the Cavs if they were to aquire another swing man, but not one who only plays on one side of the court and demands starter minutes.