My Dad's 2nd Mock Draft for 2009

[jdpapa3]

It's no accident that the Celtics chose to move out of this draft. Danny is very keen on which drafts are loaded in talent and which aren't.

This 2008 draft looks absolutely loaded so far and we have a couple guys that still have a ton of potential.

Stephen Curry with GSW seems like a good fit. Pretty tough to guard a Monta/Curry backcourt.

[fairweatherfan]

I am surprised that he has Paul Harris coming out of Syracuse and not Jonny Flynn or Eric Devendorf on that list.

Devendorf may not be drafted but will be considered judging on how he looked last year and the beginning of practice this year.

Jonny should (sadly) be ready to go this year and most likely will.

Paul is a first round talent but also has a family and I would assume he would want to graduate as a backup plan. He is also more of a 3 than a 2 position wise

First, TP for the Cuse love.  Devendorf was granted an extra year of eligibility and I think he'll take it.  Jonny may well go and will probably be a late lottery/mid first round kind of guy if he keeps up this level of play - I've heard at least one anonymous scout putting him above guys like Lawson as a pure point guard.  Paul is in between - he almost left out of HS so I'm sure he won't be reluctant to leave early, but it depends where he's slotted after the season's up.

Oh, and decent draft board overall, but if Blake Griffin's still available at #4 I'll eat my hat.  He goes Top 2 (with Rubio) barring injury or a serious slump - MAYBE Thabeet slips ahead of him but I doubt it.

[Redz]

It's no accident that the Celtics chose to move out of this draft. Danny is very keen on which drafts are loaded in talent and which aren't.

This 2008 draft looks absolutely loaded so far and we have a couple guys that still have a ton of potential.

Stephen Curry with GSW seems like a good fit. Pretty tough to guard a Monta/Curry backcourt.

TP for digging out My Dad's Draft Thread

[yall hate]

Stephen Curry with GSW seems like a good fit. Pretty tough to guard a Monta/Curry backcourt.

Smallest backcourt in the league...They would have trouble on D.


I am curious as to how he will play in the NBA.  I think he is going to be a bust in the JJ redick mold. 

Also, why do so many people presume he is going to leave?  didnt he say last year he wanted to graduate?

[hardlyyardley]

Good to see my mock draft alive on the site after 5 weeks....

to JGOD 213....yes I am a proud UMass alum and had Chris Lowe in my original mock draft, but BOY, is he messing the bed this year....his senior yr compared to his junior yr is like Dominic James' career after his first 2 yrs

Also agree with Blake Griffin appraisal....he is a monster

[jdpapa3]

Stephen Curry with GSW seems like a good fit. Pretty tough to guard a Monta/Curry backcourt.

Smallest backcourt in the league...They would have trouble on D.


I am curious as to how he will play in the NBA.  I think he is going to be a bust in the JJ redick mold. 

Also, why do so many people presume he is going to leave?  didnt he say last year he wanted to graduate?

I need to see more of Curry to see if he's a good defender, but I don't think the Warriors care much about defense. Defenses are absolutely keying on this guy and he is still torching them. Redick had some NBA talent on his team so teams couldn't really focus their defensive scheme on him. I read that he has been playing point guard this year. That would help his NBA stock, but it seems like the sg to a pg switchover never works.

And I don't know how, but this thread came up in latest forum topics. Had no clue I was bumping it.

[xmuscularghandix]

Can't say the talent coming out this spring blows my mind.

IMO, Not a bad draft for the Celtics to be missing a first rounder (at least initially.)

yea i would have been bummed if we were missing out on alot of talent, i think outside of the first 20 kids drafted everyone else could just be bunched together as, "eh". same quality in the second as late first.

[xmuscularghandix]

i would LOVE to have jon brockman. but i dont think that he's gonna go that low.

[cordobes]

Interesting that he has Nemanja Aleksandrov going so high.  He has been a bit of a binky of mine for the last couple of years.  I was always intrigued by him after Ford built him up as a possible #1 pick before he blew out his knee and dropped off the radar(and the lackluster season he had before that didn't help much either I don't think).  Then when he played in the Hoop Summit a couple of years ago, I was very impressed with him.  He clearly wasn't back to 100% yet with his athleticism, but he showed that he is still a very fluid player, with good instincts, and he even mixed it up down low.  Of course he seemed to disapear for periods or time before taking the game over for other stints (which is one of the knocks against him), but the potential was clearly still there.

Before his injury, Aleksandrov was a breath-taking talent. I saw him playing when he was 16 and no other young player has impressed me more - and you can throw LeBron's rookie season in there, for example. He was athletic, big and incredibly gifted. But he was never the same after the injury, in spite of some signs of promise here and there, and I don't even know where's he playing this season. It's sad, but he's probably finished for basketball.

[Redz]

Updating w/ Dad's 2nd Mock draft on the NBA season.  Again, the columns and such aren't perfect...The attached spreadsheet may be a little easier to read.   

----------------               
   2009 MOCK DRAFT-PLAYER RATINGS               
                  
                  
                      
  OCTOBER 30, 2008                  
                  
       One of the least exciting drafts in recent years…..once again foreigners are based on my readings                  
        not on observation….the order of the draft is based on my predictions for success or lack thereof                  
                  
 FEBRUARY 5, 2009                  
                  
       Stll a boring draft, especially with the second round….most likely will have alot of foreigners                   
       NCAA tourney…final 4=NC, Uconn, Oklahoma, Mich St                  
       Rest of elite 8=Gonzaga,Pitt,Syracuse,Louisville                  
       Rest of Sweet 16=Duke, Arkansas, UCLA, Marquette, So Cal, Memphis, Butler, Clemson                  
                  
Ratings=                  
 L=lottery                  
 1=first round                  
 2=second round                  
 2-3=may be drafted                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
POINT GUARDS           RATING     RATING      
         10/30/2008   2/5/2009      
RONALD STEELE   6.3   ALABAMA   2    2-3      
DARREN COLLISION   6.1   UCLA   L-1   1      
JEREMY PARGO   6.2   GONZAGA   2   2      
ERIC MAYNOR   6.1   VA COMMWLTH    1-2   1      
JEREL MCNEAL   6.3   MARQUETTE   2    1-2      
DOMINIC JAMES   5.11   MARQUETTE   2    2-3      
CHRIS LOWE   6.0   UMASS    2-3   UNDRFTD      
TYRESE RICE   6.0   BC   2   2      
AJ PRICE   6.2   UCONN    1-2    1-2      
CURTIS JERRELLS   6.1   BAYLOR   2   2      
LESTER HUDSON   6.3   TENN-MARTIN    1-2    2-3      
BRANDON EWING   6.2   WYOMING    2-3   UNDRFTD      
WINK ADAMS   6.1   UNLV    2-3   UNDRFTD      
TONEY DOUGLAS   6.1   FLORIDA ST    2-3   UNDRFTD      
GREG PAULUS   6.2   DUKE    2-3   UNDRFTD      
                  
                  
      `            
                  
                  
HARDSHIPS/FOREIGNERS:                  
                  
                  
BRANDON JENNINGS   6.1   EUROPE   L-1   L-1      
STEPHEN CURRY   6.1   DAVIDSON   L-1   L-1      
TY LAWSON   5.11   NO CAROLINA   L-1   1      
GREIVIS VASQUEZ   6.5   MARYLAND   1   STAYING      
SCOTTY REYNOLDS   6.2   VILLANOVA   2   STAYING      
PATRICK MILLS   5.11   ST MARYS   1   1      
RICKY RUBIO   6.4   SPAIN   L-1   L-1      
JEFF TEAGUE   6.2   WAKE FOREST   STAYING   1      
NICK CALATHES   6.6   FLORIDA   STAYING   1      
                  
                  
                  
OFF GUARDS           RATING     RATING      
         10/30/2008   2/5/2009      
STEFON JACKSON   6.4   UTEP    2-3   UNDRFTD      
DIONTE CHRISTMAS   6.5   TEMPLE    2-3   2      
ALONZO GEE   6.6   ALABAMA   2   2      
LORRENZO WADE   6.6   SAN DIEGO ST    2-3    2-3      
ROBERT VADEN   6.5   UAB   2    2-3      
MARCUS THORNTON   6.4   LSU   2   2      
COURTNEY FELLS   6.5   NO CAROLINA ST    2`-3   UNDRFTD      
TERRENCE WILLIAMS   6.6   LOUISVILLE    1-2   1      
JOSH CARTER   6.7   TEXAS A&M   2   2      
JOSH SHIPP   6.5   UCLA    2-3    2-3      
DANNY GREEN   6.6   NO CAROLINA     2-3    2-3      
ANTONIO ANDERSON   6.6   MEMPHIS    2-3   UNDRFTD      
MARCUS GINYARD   6.5   NO CAROLINA     2-3   UNDRFTD      
AD VASSALLO   6.6   VIRGINIA TECH    2-3    2-3      
KC RIVERS   6.5   CLEMSON    2-3    2-3      
LEE CUMMARD   6.7   BYU    2-3    2-3      
JERMAINE TAYLOR   6.4   CENTRAL FLORIDA   UNDRFTD    2-3      
ALEX RUOFF   6.6   WEST VIRGINIA   UNDRFTD    2-3      
WESLEY MATTHEWS   6.5   MARQUETTE   UNDRFTD   2      
                  
                  
HARDSHIPS/FOREIGNERS:                  
                  
WAYNE ELLINGTON   6.4   NO CAROLINA   1   STAYING      
PAUL HARRIS   6.5   SYRACUSE   1   STAYING      
JAMES HARDEN   6.5   ARIZONA ST   L   L      
GERALD HENDERSON   6.5   DUKE   L-1   L      
TYREKE EVANS   6.5   MEMPHIS   L-1   L-1      
                  
                  
CENTERS           RATING     RATING      
         10/30/2008   2/5/2009      
                  
ARON BAYNES   6.10   WASHINGTON ST    2-3   UNDRFTD      
LUKE NEVILL   7.1   UTAH    2-3    2-3      
                  
                  
                  
HARDSHIPS/FOREIGNERS:                  
NEMANJA ALEKSANDROV   7.0   SERBIA   1   STAYING      
HASHEEN THABEET   7.3   UCONN   L   L      
ANDREW OGILVY   7.0   VANDY   L-1   STAYING      
BJ MULLENS   7.0   OHIO ST   L    L-1      
JEROME JORDAN   7.1   TULSA   2   2      
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
POWER FORWARDS           RATING     RATING      
         10/30/2008   2/5/2009      
BRANDON COSTNER   6.9   NO CAROLINA ST   2   2      
TYLER HANSBROUGH   6.9   NO CAROLINA   1   1      
JEFF PENDERGRAPH   6.10   ARIZONA ST    1-2   2      
CONNOR ATCHLEY   6.10   TEXAS    1-2   2      
JOSH HEYTVELT   6.10   GONZAGA    1-2    1-2      
JEFF ADRIEN   6.7   UCONN    2-3   2      
CHRIS JOHNSON   6.11   LSU    1-2   2      
LEO LYONS   6.9   MISSOURI    2-3    2-3      
ROBERT DOZIER   6.10   MEMPHIS    2-3   UNDRFTD      
AHMAD NIVINS   6.9   ST JOSEPHS    2-3   UNDRFTD      
KEVIN ROGERS   6.9   BAYLOR    2-3    2-3      
JON BROCKMAN   6.7   WASHINGTON    2-3    2-3      
                  
                  
HARDSHIPS/FOREIGNERS:                  
                  
                  
                  
BLAKE GRIFFIN   6.9   OKLAHOMA   L   L      
PATRICK PATTERSON   6.8   KENTUCKY   1   1      
JORDAN HILL   6.10   ARIZONA    1-2   L-1      
LUKE HARANGODY   6.8   NOTRE DAME     1-2   STAYING      
TAJ GIBSON   6.9   SO CALIFORNIA   2   2      
DEJUAN BLAIR   6.7   PITTSBURGH   STAYING    1-2      
                  
                  
SMALL FORWARDS           RATING     RATING      
         10/30/2008   2/5/2009      
                  
DAMION JAMES   6.8   TEXAS   1   1      
SAM YOUNG   6.6   PITTSBURGH   1   L-1      
GEOFF MCDERMOTT   6.7   PROVIDENCE    2-3    2-3      
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
HARDSHIPS/FOREIGNERS:                  
                  
                  
EARL CLARK   6.7   LOUISVILLE   L   L-1      
CHASE BUDINGER   6.7   ARIZONA   L-1   L-1      
TYLER SMITH   6.7   TENNESSEE   L-1   L-1      
DAJUAN SUMMERS   6.8   GEORGETOWN   1   1      
DERRICK BROWN   6.8   XAVIER   1    1-2      
TREVOR BOOKER   6.8   CLEMSON    2-3   STAYING      
RAYMAR MORGAN   6.7   MICHIGAN ST   1   1      
DEMAR DEROZAN   6.7   SO CAL    L-1   L-1      
AL-FIROUQ AMINU   6.9   WAKE FOREST   STAYING    L      
                  
SECOND MOCK DRAFT 2/5/09..FIRST ROUND                  
      Based on standings at 2/2/09             
1   WASH   HASHEEN THABEET   7.3   UCONN      
2   CLIPPERS   BLAKE GRIFFIN   6.9   OKLAHOMA      
3   SACRAMENTO    RICKY RUBIO   6.4   SPAIN      
4   OKCITY   JAMES HARDEN   6.5   ARIZONA ST      
5   MEMPHIS    JORDAN HILL   6.10   ARIZONA      
6   GOLDEN ST    AL-FIROUQ AMINU   6.9   WAKE FOREST      
7   MINNESOTA   GERALD HENDERSON   6.5   DUKE      
8   TORONTO    DEMAR DEROZAN   6.7   SO CAL      
9   CHARLOTTE   TYLER SMITH   6.7   TENNESSEE      
10   INDIANA   BJ MULLENS   7.0   OHIO ST      
11   NEW JERSEY   STEPHEN CURRY   6.1   DAVIDSON      
12   CHICAGO   CHASE BUDINGER   6.7   ARIZONA      
13   KNICKS    BRANDON JENNINGS   6.1   EUROPE      
14   MILWAUKEE   SAM YOUNG   6.6   PITTSBURGH      
15   UTAH to PHIL (c)    JEFF TEAGUE   6.2   WAKE FOREST      
16   PHOENIX     ERIC MAYNOR   6.1   VA COMMWLTH      
17   PHILLY   TYLER HANSBROUGH   6.9   NO CAROLINA      
18   DALLAS to NJ (b)   EARL CLARK   6.7   LOUISVILLE      
19   DETROIT    DAMION JAMES   6.8   TEXAS      
20   HOUSTON    DARREN COLLISION   6.1   UCLA      
21   MIAMI  to MINN (a)   TY LAWSON   5.11   NO CAROLINA      
22   NEW ORLEANS   NICK CALATHES   6.6   FLORIDA      
23   ATLANTA   JEREL MCNEAL   6.3   MARQUETTE      
24   PORTLAND   DAJUAN SUMMERS   6.8   GEORGETOWN      
25   DENVER    TYREKE EVANS   6.5   MEMPHIS      
26   ORLANDO   PATRICK MILLS   5.11   ST MARYS      
27   SA to OKCITY  (e)   PATRICK PATTERSON   6.8   KENTUCKY      
28   CLEV    RAYMAR MORGAN   6.7   MICHIGAN ST      
29   LAKERS   TERRENCE WILLIAMS   6.6   LOUISVILLE      
30   BOSTON to MINN (d)   DEJUAN BLAIR   6.7   PITTSBURGH      
      (a)=rdavis;blount (2007)   (b)kidd (2008)         
       ©=korver (2007)   (d) garnett (2007)          
      (e)=kthomas (2008)            
                  
SECOND MOCK DRAFT 2/5/09..SECOND ROUND                  
1   WASH   AJ PRICE   6.2   UCONN      
2   CLIPPERS to PORT   DERRICK BROWN   6.8   XAVIER      
3   SACRAMENTO    JOSH HEYTVELT   6.10   GONZAGA      
4   OKCITY   TAJ GIBSON   6.9   SO CALIFORNIA      
5   MEMPHISto PORT   JOSH CARTER   6.7   TEXAS A&M      
6   GS to PHOEN   JEFF ADRIEN   6.7   UCONN      
7   MINN  to DET    WESLEY MATTHEWS   6.5   MARQUETTE      
8   TORONTO to MINN   JEROME JORDAN   7.1   TULSA      
9   CHAR to LAKERS    CHRIS JOHNSON   6.11   LSU      
10   INDIANA to MIA   CURTIS JERRELLS   6.1   BAYLOR      
11   NJ to OKCITY   JEREMY PARGO   6.2   GONZAGA      
12   CHICAGO to CLEV   MARCUS THORNTON   6.4   LSU      
13   KNICKS  to PORT   KC RIVERS   6.5   CLEMSON      
14   MILWAUKEE   DIONTE CHRISTMAS   6.5   TEMPLE      
15   UTAH    ALONZO GEE   6.6   ALABAMA      
16   PHOENIX     JERMAINE TAYLOR   6.4   CENTRAL FLORIDA      
17   PHILLY to MIA   TYRESE RICE   6.0   BC      
18   DALLAS   LEO LYONS   6.9   MISSOURI      
19   DETROIT    LEE CUMMARD   6.7   BYU      
20   HOUS to SA    BRANDON COSTNER   6.9   NO CAROLINA ST      
21   MIAMI    LUKE NEVILL   7.1   UTAH      
22   NEW ORLEANS to SA   RONALD STEELE   6.3   ALABAMA      
23   ATLANTA   ROBERT VADEN   6.5   UAB      
24   PORTLAND   JON BROCKMAN   6.7   WASHINGTON      
25   DENVER to PORT   CONNOR ATCHLEY   6.10   TEXAS      
26   ORLANDO to PHOE   KEVIN ROGERS   6.9   BAYLOR      
27   SA to CHAR   JEFF PENDERGRAPH   6.10   ARIZONA ST      
28   CLEV to MIAMI   DANNY GREEN   6.6   NO CAROLINA       
29   LAKERS   DOMINIC JAMES   5.11   MARQUETTE      
30   BOSTON    LESTER HUDSON   6.3   TENN-MARTIN      
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
MOCK DRAFT 10/30/08..FIRST ROUND                  
1   SACRAMENTO    RICKY RUBIO   6.4   SPAIN      
2   INDIANA   BJ MULLENS   7.0   OHIO ST      
3   MILWAUKEE   DEMAR DEROZAN   6.7   SO CAL      
4   OKCITY   BLAKE GRIFFIN   6.9   OKLAHOMA      
5   MINNESOTA   BRANDON JENNINGS   6.1   EUROPE      
6   MEMPHIS    HASHEEN THABEET   7.3   UCONN      
7   WASH   EARL CLARK   6.7   LOUISVILLE      
8   NEW JERSEY   JAMES HARDEN   6.5   ARIZONA      
9   KNICKS    CHASE BUDINGER   6.7   ARIZONA      
10   CHARLOTTE   ANDREW OGILVY   7.0   VANDY      
11   MIAMI  to MINN (a)   TYLER SMITH   6.7   TENNESSEE      
12   CLIPPERS   DARREN COLLISION   6.1   UCLA      
13   DENVER    TY LAWSON   5.11   NO CAROLINA      
14   GOLDEN ST    STEPHEN CURRY   6.1   DAVIDSON      
15   ATLANTA   GERALD HENDERSON   6.5   DUKE      
16   PHILLY   NEMANJA ALEKSANDROV   7.0   SERBIA      
17   CHICAGO   DAMION JAMES   6.8   TEXAS      
18   CLEV    DERRICK BROWN   6.8   XAVIER      
19   TORONTO    WAYNE ELLINGTON   6.4   NO CAROLINA      
20   UTAH to PHIL (c)    TYLER HANSBROUGH   6.9   NO CAROLINA      
21   PORTLAND   PATRICK PATTERSON   6.8   KENTUCKY      
22   SA to OKCITY  (e)   TYREKE EVANS   6.5   MEMPHIS      
23   DALLAS to NJ (b)   PATRICK MILLS   5.11   ST MARYS      
24   HOUSTON    GREIVIS VASQUEZ   6.5   MARYLAND      
25   DETROIT    JORDAN HILL   6.10   ARIZONA      
26   ORLANDO   DAJUAN SUMMERS   6.8   GEORGETOWN      
27   LAKERS   RAYMAR MORGAN   6.7   MICHIGAN ST      
28   PHOENIX     ERIC MAYNOR   6.1   VA COMMWLTH      
29   BOSTON to MINN (d)   PAUL HARRIS   6.5   SYRACUSE      
30   NEW ORLEANS   SAM YOUNG   6.6   PITTSBURGH      
   (a)=rdavis;blount (2007)   (b)kidd (2008)            
    ©=korver (2007)   (d) garnett (2007)             
   (e)=kthomas (2008)               
                  
                  
                  
                  
MOCK DRAFT 10/30/08..SECOND ROUND                  
31   SACR    JOSH HEYTVELT   6.10   GONZAGA      
32   INDIANA to MIA   AJ PRICE   6.2   UCONN      
33   MILW   CONNOR ATCHLEY   6.10   TEXAS      
34   OKCITY   TERRENCE WILLIAMS   6.6   LOUISVILLE      
35   MINN  to DET    JEREMY PARGO   6.2   GONZAGA      
36   MEMPHISto PORT   LESTER HUDSON   6.3   TENN-MARTIN      
37   WASH   LUKE HARANGODY   6.8   NOTRE DAME       
38   NJ to OKCITY   RONALD STEELE   6.3   ALABAMA      
39   KNICKS  to PORT   CHRIS JOHNSON   6.11   LSU      
40   CHAR to LAKERS    CURTIS JERRELLS   6.1   BAYLOR      
41   MIAMI    TAJ GIBSON   6.9   SO CALIFORNIA      
42   CLIPPERS to PORT   JEFF PENDERGRAPH   6.10   ARIZONA ST      
43   DENVER to PORT   JOSH CARTER   6.7   TEXAS A&M      
44   GS to PHOEN   ALONZO GEE   6.6   ALABAMA      
45   ATLANTA    SCOTTY REYNOLDS   6.2   VILLANOVA      
46   PHILLY to MIA   ROBERT VADEN   6.5   UAB      
47   CHICAGO to CLEV   TYRESE RICE   6.0   BC      
48   CLEV to MIAMI   MARCUS THORNTON   6.4   LSU      
49   TORONTO to MINN   BRANDON COSTNER   6.9   NO CAROLINA ST      
50   UTAH    LEE CUMMARD   6.7   BYU      
51   PORTLAND   JEROME JORDAN   7.1   TULSA      
52   SA to CHAR   DIONTE CHRISTMAS   6.5   TEMPLE      
53   DALLAS   JEREL MCNEAL   6.3   MARQUETTE      
54   HOUS to SA    DOMINIC JAMES   5.11   MARQUETTE      
55   DETROIT   KEVIN ROGERS   6.9   BAYLOR      
56   ORLANDO to PHOE   AHMAD NIVINS   6.9   ST JOSEPHS      
57   LAKERS   ROBERT DOZIER   6.10   MEMPHIS      
58   PHOENIX   LUKE NEVILL   7.1   UTAH      
59   BOSTON    JON BROCKMAN   6.7   WASHINGTON      
60   NO to SA   CHRIS LOWE   6.0   UMASS      

[yall hate]

Where is Jodie Meeks?  he is eligible isnt he?

[hardlyyardley]

he is a junior....most likely staying

[yall hate]

he is a junior....most likely staying

He has been a beast this year.  If Meeks declares, I would have to assume he would be a first rounder...

[Hoyo de Monterrey]

How's Patrick Mills shooting the basketball?

[Celtics1990]

I saw that Nick Calathes is ranked as a first round pick. Do you really think his game is NBA ready?