POB will render the Laker's Bynum ineffective for a re-match.

[ManUp]

Bynum is better already then all of our bigs with the exception of KG.

That's not really saying much.

[wdleehi]

The only thing that matters is if Perkins can continue to out play Bynum head to head. 



If that happens, the Celtics have a huge advantage.

[Atzar]

I'd be more than happy to label Bynum a future perennial All-Star... when he shows me that 17/10/3 is really what he is and not just a hot streak that many players go through.  I can make a decent All-Star case for a lot of players if I'm allowed to isolate a 10-game stretch and use that as the base of my argument.

I'm not saying Bynum won't be very good.  I'm saying that he's not there yet.

[TitleMaster]

I think all 3 guys have things that they each do well that can make things difficult for a guy like Bynum offensively whether it's Perk's bulk, POB's length, or Powe's quickness. I don't know that this is the point the OP was trying to make but if it is I'd certainly agree

Correct, I refer to the Celts triumvirate as a three headed hydra of a center. There's no way that any one of them will completely neutralize Bynum but working in a system, they can take the Laker's center out of his 'A' game.

Now, where I make my leap of faith is that the Laker's frontline of Radmanovic, Gasol, and Odom a/o Bynum, aside of outside shooting streaks will not match the Celt's line of Pierce, Garnett, Perkules, O'Bryant a/o Powe for an inside-out power game. The Celts simply have too many complimenting parts up north for the Lakers to match. All and all, that's what's needed for the Lakers to win. This whole making Kobe the sole foci, in the vain of an Elgin Baylor extraordinare, type of team play is bound to have the same effect on the Lakers as Baylor inadvertently had in the past... cause them to never win a title against the C's. Simply put, Kobe is not the team player like Pierce; his presence de-motivates others (and as we know Odom seriously needs motivation) and he'll never inspire others to rise to their highest levels. Likewise, unlike Baylor, Bryant doesn't have the likes of a West, Goodrich, Hairston, or Wilt so really, the Laker's need to invest in getting their frontline to work better w/ or w/o Kobe leading the charge.

[CoachBo]

At this point in time, I'm convinced that the media has blown Bynum's potential so far out of water that all the Green Kool-Aid of the Big Al phenomena, before the KG trade, can't compete historically, anymore.

Bynum has a scoring touch and that's about it for the time being; everything else is work in progress.

I'm not making any evaluations of future Celtics-Lakers match-ups at this point (and particularly about Patrick O'Byrant's impact on them), but your assessment of Bynum seems rather unfair when one considers that the guy averaged 10.2 boards and 2.1 blocks in less than 30 minutes per game last season.  Or that the team was nearly two points better per 100 possessions defensively with him on the court than off.  Or that he held opposing centers to a putrid 42.8 effective field goal percentage (compared to his own 63.6 percent eFG).

I'm not sure how Bynum will respond coming off injury, but writing him off as a guy with a scoring touch and little else at this point isn't accurate.

-sw

Well said, Steve. If the premise of this post is the title, it's absurd to think that a physical center like Bynum would view POB's soft game as anything more than a nuisance.

Simply put, I'd deal two thirds of that threesome - drastically overvalued in the original post - for Bynum in a nano-second, and I'd be tempted to do Perkins for Bynum, too.

[TheRev72]

There is no need to worry about Bynum.  Rather, Bynum must worry about the Beast. 

[zerophase]

patty's game is too soft. he needs to go down there and bang in order to stop bynum. but perkins can stop bynum and kg has gasol covered.

[TitleMaster]

I don't seem the understand the responses to this thread.

For one, Kobe is not a great team player. This is evident in none of his associates rising to the occasion when he isn't having a monster game. Here's a metaphor which Celts fans can understand, Bob McAdoo during the Buffalo years.

Next, the big Al Jefferson moment for Bynum before he goes down with an injury. This time, instead of the C's fans calling him the next Stoudamire or Moses, it's the LA/NYC media along with half the nation.

Now, piece the themes together and you'll see why the Lakers are significantly overrated.

[crownsy]

I don't seem the understand the responses to this thread.

For one, Kobe is not a great team player. This is evident in none of his associates rising to the occasion when he isn't having a monster game. Here's a metaphor which Celts fans can understand, Bob McAdoo during the Buffalo years.

Next, the big Al Jefferson moment for Bynum before he goes down with an injury. This time, instead of the C's fans calling him the next Stoudamire or Moses, it's the LA/NYC media along with half the nation.

Now, piece the themes together and you'll see why the Lakers are significantly overrated.

you do realize big al is putting up all star numbers right?

disregarding the rest of the post, which i think is pretty out there, to be honest, you keep saying that bynum is like big al as some sort of negitive conotation, like he's a big who didn't work out.

Big al has been pretty much a beast in minnasota, a 20/10 guy. if thats what bynum turns out to be, plus better defense, the lakers have a superstar.

I just don't get the "to me bynum is like big al pre- trade" negitive analogys you keep making...Al is killing it in minnasota.

[MBz]

Bynum can play, plain and simple.  Will he be an all-star in the league?   The jury is still out, BUT he will sure as hell be an above serviceable center similar to the way that Chris Kaman is.  Also including Powe in the "defensive hydra."  Since when did he turn into a good defensive player?

[Roy Hobbs]

I don't seem the understand the responses to this thread.

For one, Kobe is not a great team player. This is evident in none of his associates rising to the occasion when he isn't having a monster game. Here's a metaphor which Celts fans can understand, Bob McAdoo during the Buffalo years.

Next, the big Al Jefferson moment for Bynum before he goes down with an injury. This time, instead of the C's fans calling him the next Stoudamire or Moses, it's the LA/NYC media along with half the nation.

Now, piece the themes together and you'll see why the Lakers are significantly overrated.

you do realize big al is putting up all star numbers right?

disregarding the rest of the post, which i think is pretty out there, to be honest, you keep saying that bynum is like big al as some sort of negitive conotation, like he's a big who didn't work out.

Big al has been pretty much a beast in minnasota, a 20/10 guy. if thats what bynum turns out to be, plus better defense, the lakers have a superstar.

I just don't get the "to me bynum is like big al pre- trade" negitive analogys you keep making...Al is killing it in minnasota.

TP, crownsy.  That was puzzling me, as well.

[TitleMaster]

Big Al was a supposed beast, via that first series with Indiana where he'd blocked O'Neil's shot in game one. It took him nearly two years, from that moment, to evolve into the player that he is now.

Now, Bynum is only in the first season, since his *Big Al* moment but to the national media, he's already there.

[sns0274]

While this is not meant to be a bash on Bynum at all and I do believe he could be one of the better centers in the league in 2 or 3 years. Bynums numbers were a bit inflated last year, due to the fact that 19 out of the lakers first 24 games were played against sub 500 teams and very few "above average centers". I would like to see him

A)Play more than 24 games
B)See what the head to heads look like with true above average centers
C)See if he is actually willing to play 2nd or even 3rd fiddle

Until I see all three of these, I can't say whether or not Bynum could actually relevant when it comes to playoffs and more so...Finals.

[ManUp]

I see Bynum as Tyson Chandler 2.0. He rebounds, blocks shots, and finishes the easy ones that he gets from Kobe. I don't think his FG% and PPG would look as good if he wasn't playing with some like Kobe who creates all those open looks.

[Chris]

Big Al was a supposed beast, via that first series with Indiana where he'd blocked O'Neil's shot in game one. It took him nearly two years, from that moment, to evolve into the player that he is now.

Now, Bynum is only in the first season, since his *Big Al* moment but to the national media, he's already there.

This isn't true at all.  Bynum's rookie year was very similar to Big Al's rookie year.  Then last year before the injury, Bynum played like Al did the year before being traded.  He was still learning a little, but he was producing, and showing that he could be an absolute beast. 

The big difference between Bynum and Jefferson is Bynum didn't have the terrible second year, where he came into camp out of shape, and had trouble picking up on the defensive rotations enough to play major minutes (they didn't really ask him to make the rotations his rookie year).  Bynum had a second year like Big Al's 3rd.  So this year is basically like Big Al's first year in Minnesota.  The only question with him is his knee.