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Josh Childress
« on: October 15, 2008, 04:47:39 AM »

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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/12/sports/basketball/12childress.html?_r=2&ref=sports&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Good read. Childress seems to have a good head on his shoulders. I actually think he made a pretty cool decision. In a year or two I'd like to see if somehow on the C's.

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Good read.. I never understood the initial bashing of Josh Childress. I mean like he said, twice the money, expanded role, and you get to live in a cool country for a few years. Also I really liked the mention of Stanford; that was a good connection. Could you ever really blame a player going to Stanford over UNC? It's his life, he has the right to his own choices. I sitll think LeBron will be going over seas after he wins one here.

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I don`t know about LeBron but i`ve read in todays papers that olympiacos will offer K.Bryant 20mil $ for 3 years contract + many benefits  ???

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Isn't it just like a Stanford alum to do something stupid like making an extremely intelligent decision? Now we know why Josh got into Stanford in the first place, he's a [dang] smart guy.

I wish him all the luck in the world and the foresight to see that upon his return, wearing Celtic Green would be another intelligent decision to make.

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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2008, 09:42:43 AM »

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I don't know if anyone thought it was dumb to get paid more money and play in a foreign country.  I think the issue some people have is taking more money to play in a very average league and never be heard from again. Most great NBA players consider an NBA championship the pinnacle of Basketball.  Well except for Kobe who now believes that an Olympic Gold medal is the pinnacle of course that had nothing to do with losing the NBA finals and winning the Gold Medal.
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I don't know if anyone thought it was dumb to get paid more money and play in a foreign country.  I think the issue some people have is taking more money to play in a very average league and never be heard from again. Most great NBA players consider an NBA championship the pinnacle of Basketball.  Well except for Kobe who now believes that an Olympic Gold medal is the pinnacle of course that had nothing to do with losing the NBA finals and winning the Gold Medal.
Olympiacos plays in the Euroleague, which is easily the second best league in the world, and the Greek domestic league is one of the better "regular season" leagues in the Europe as well (it's not as good as the Spanish ACB, but it's on par with Italy, Russia, and the other top domestic leagues).

Childress is also in no danger of "never being heard from again".  Because he was the first MLE-or-above, American FA to leave for Europe, people are going to be talking about him all year, and he has opt-outs to return to the NBA after each season built into his contract.  I think there's a good chance he ends up back i tnhe NBA next year, after a season of being the #1 offensive option for a top team playing against the best non-NBA competition in the world.  But if he doesn't, more power to him, that means he's found a great, stable situation in Europe, and is happy making great money and competing for Greek-league and Euroleague titles every year.

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I don`t know about LeBron but i`ve read in todays papers that olympiacos will offer K.Bryant 20mil $ for 3 years contract + many benefits  ???

20 mill?  that's less then Kobe could get here.  He isnt leaving for that.



i applaud Childress for his decision.  Only time will tell if it was a good decision or not, but it isnt crazy to think he will improve his game over there, then come back here and play in the NBA again.

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Fine but, the point still stands he left to take more money and play against lesser competition and that was what people disagreed with.  Unless of course money is most important thing to you.  Look I realize it's not 'cool' to want to be the best of the best but, there are still people out here that enjoy the competition more than the cash.

It's not really that hard to see why people might have an issue with it.
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The 20 million that Lebron could make in Greece, minus U.S. taxes, and considering other perks, could easily be worth more than he could get here.

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And point I don't understand is that's something to applaud that he goes and then comes back?  What is he going for if he's going to come back in a few years?  You're applauding him for getting as much money as he can?  I never thought that was something to be applauded.
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And point I don't understand is that's something to applaud that he goes and then comes back?  What is he going for if he's going to come back in a few years?  You're applauding him for getting as much money as he can?  I never thought that was something to be applauded.

Why is maximizing one's earning potential by taking a larger offer elsewhere something that shouldn't be applauded? As Childress said in the article, if he was a banker, stock broker, or any other profession people would think him nuts not to double his take home pay while having every expense he has picked up by a new job in a great foreign country.

He made a decision that is against the grain for basketball players. He is going to be playing in a country that doesn't speak his native language. Everything this year will be foreign to him. That takes courage and that, I applaud.

Also, the whole argument regarding that it makes no sense to jump to Europe for only year, I don't agree with. The average worker works 40 years to earn a majority of their money. Let's say an average NBA player works 8 years to make most of their money. So if a basketball player plays one year overseas it would be the equivalent of a normal person choosing to spend 5 years working overseas with the prospect of furthering their career. No one would say that wouldn't make sense.

And besides, what's the difference if for one year he decides to play in Athens for $6 million or Atlanta or Memphis or Miami for $3 million. It's still one year in one city.

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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2008, 12:52:33 PM »

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I don`t know about LeBron but i`ve read in todays papers that olympiacos will offer K.Bryant 20mil $ for 3 years contract + many benefits  ???

20 mill?  that's less then Kobe could get here.  He isnt leaving for that.

I think he meant euros.



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I don`t know about LeBron but i`ve read in todays papers that olympiacos will offer K.Bryant 20mil $ for 3 years contract + many benefits  ???

20 mill?  that's less then Kobe could get here.  He isnt leaving for that.

I think he meant euros.



Well its 20 mill a year dollars, but they take out the taxes before, plus he gets yachts and all sorts of other perks, according to this shaky source.  The big deal in Europe is that the contracts are all factored after taxes, so 20 million dollar contract is a lot bigger over there then here.


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There is nothing wrong with it but I don't consider it very altruistic either.  Military personnel live overseas all over the world for about 1/10000000 of what Josh Childress is.  To me he's playing in a league where he will be a top player and get paid double what he would get here instead of being relegated to making a measly 3,000,000 a year and being the 7th or 8th man on an NBA team.  Fight the good fight Josh.
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And point I don't understand is that's something to applaud that he goes and then comes back?  What is he going for if he's going to come back in a few years?  You're applauding him for getting as much money as he can?  I never thought that was something to be applauded.

I applaud him for not being an arrogant, narrow-minded American. He appreciates what other countries and cultures have to offer.

I also applaud him for helping his fellow players in their negotiations by making Europe a plausible threat for players to use when negotiating with teams.