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The Deepest Bench in the League
« on: October 09, 2008, 01:53:16 PM »

Offline PerkinsERA43

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Belongs to the Boston Celtics. I was really, really excited by the play of our entire bench yesterday. Really good. Leon Powe looks like he knows he's an NBA talent now. Watching him just bulldoze Theo Ratliff out of the way and lay it in was really great to see. Plus, he looks absolutely ripped. He was really overpowering people out there. Impressive stuff.

I now have a clay effigy of Bill Walker in my basement, and I pray to it regularly. Nothing more need be said.

POB looked like a very legitimate backup. I love his length, and he seems to be well conditioned, which is very important for a 7 footer (they have a lot of mass to move). He is also very athletic. I didn't really believe that hype until yesterday, but that alley-oop he caught.... wow. It just looked so fluid and easy. He reached back about 2 feet, caught the ball with one hand, and slammed it through clean and HARD. The backboard was shaking for about 8 seconds after the play.

Darius Miles, while he still does that stupid thing where he taps his forehead after every basket, looked like he had retained a great deal of his athleticism. The alley-oop he finished, while it wasn't awe-inspiring, and didn't require a super leap (as Tommy said), was still a very athletic play. He had to contort himself to finish that play properly, and that is tough to do when you're trying to catch a lob. Plus, he had that play under the hoop where he jumped from a standstill and laid that ball in from above the cylinder. Quite impressive. I play basketball regularly, and I can only touch the rim with a running start. Granted, I'm 5'10 on a good day, and Darius is 6'8, but STILL. Nice play.

Pruitt looked like he had added about 20 pounds to his frame. That still only gets him up to about 190, but any sort of improvement in that category will help make Pruitt a better player. I like his game a lot. Unfortunately, there just isn't really any space for him to get playing time on this roster.

Scal is truly awful. Everything positive he did yesterday, he immediately negated. Case in point: Scal made that steal, and then immediately threw it away late in the game yesterday.... Luckily, the 76ers failed to score off of the turnover. They missed the layup. Scal then grabbed that board, and proceeded to throw another pass away. The 76ers converted. The work of an artist, Scal. The work of an artist.


Big Baby is obviously a useful player. Unfortunately, I didn't see much improvement in his game. He looked like the same player as he did last year. Still, the good news is that his game was already good enough to make him an 7th or 8th man on an NBA roster.

House was shooting the lights out, and handling the pressure well. He might be unorthodox, but he's a very solid backup PG. I'm happy with him as the primary ballhandler when Rondo goes out.

TA was back to his old form, which is very exciting! He was slashing, leaping, and handling the ball better than before. If he ever plays like he did for that short stretch of games before his second knee injury, then we will have one hell of a bench.


So, to summarize, I am, despite the loss,one hyped-up C's fan. I cannot wait until opening night..... especially since I have tickets!!!


 

Re: The Deepest Bench in the League
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2008, 01:59:10 PM »

Offline BrickJames

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TP for being funny...deepest bench in the league...too funny..
God bless and good night!


Re: The Deepest Bench in the League
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2008, 02:07:27 PM »

Offline JR Giddens

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deepest bench is the NBA is NOT the Celtics! We're one of them tho

Our bench can't run an offense w/o one of the big 3 on the court. Even Eddie House can't run an offense aginst a press defense and he's our best bench player thus far.

What exactly seperates the Celtics bench from the Pistons, Cavs, and Rockets?




Re: The Deepest Bench in the League
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2008, 02:20:04 PM »

Offline PerkinsERA43

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deepest bench is the NBA is NOT the Celtics! We're one of them tho

Our bench can't run an offense w/o one of the big 3 on the court. Even Eddie House can't run an offense aginst a press defense and he's our best bench player thus far.

What exactly seperates the Celtics bench from the Pistons, Cavs, and Rockets?





Ummm.... they're wearing green? Celtics Pride? Etcetera? Need I go on????

Re: The Deepest Bench in the League
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2008, 02:27:39 PM »

Offline Triboy16

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Posey was like 40 percent of our bench last year. And without him we definitely don't have the best one. Its unstable and i'm not sure who we can rely upon to be that trustul 6th man. Other than that we do have alot of weapons in every position , but they are young.

The good part is that no matter what we will have at least one or two starters always be on the floor to chaparone the 2nd unit

Re: The Deepest Bench in the League
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2008, 02:32:16 PM »

Offline 12417

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The Celtics do have a relatively deep bench but that's not always a good thing. If you recall last year during the regular season Doc found it difficult to settle on a rotation. His luxury of depth crept into the playoffs as indecision seemed to cripple the team through the Atlanta and Cleveland series. It wasn't until the Detroit series that he seemed to be able to contol the temptation to try and get everyone minutes.

Having depth is great for potential injuries and to try and limit the aging Big 3 minutes played. However I'd prefer packaging 2-3 of the bench players for a significant upgrade in the top 8 rotation and a potential high draft pick in '09 or '10.

Re: The Deepest Bench in the League
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2008, 02:51:08 PM »

Offline jay_jay54

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The biggest problem i saw in the presesaon game is no one player on the second unit wanted to take charge,seems like each player was hoping the other guy would assume the position.This something we lost with JP being on the floor with this unit...especially when things got out of hand,when they got behind.I know in time,they will work all this out,but its something that seem missing last night.

Re: The Deepest Bench in the League
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2008, 03:00:48 PM »

Offline BudweiserCeltic

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The Celtics do have a relatively deep bench but that's not always a good thing. If you recall last year during the regular season Doc found it difficult to settle on a rotation. His luxury of depth crept into the playoffs as indecision seemed to cripple the team through the Atlanta and Cleveland series. It wasn't until the Detroit series that he seemed to be able to contol the temptation to try and get everyone minutes.

I don't think that was Doc's issue with the rotation, he clearly had a set rotation. Some people in that rotation showed that they couldn't be relied on, so he went with others.

That's why House was kept on the bench, and didn't any playing time until the Cavs series. It was very evident that Powe was going to be who Doc was going to use as the first big man off the bench. It was Powe who blew the opportunity, and it made Doc scrabble a bit. PJ Brown took a while to get comfortable, and in the mean time Doc gave Davis some opportunities to see if he could be relied on (but he wasn't either.

So what was Doc's dilemma? The guy you envisioned taking the main minutes off the bench is not giving you what you expected. You got someone on the bench who might be capable of giving you what you expected from Powe, but he too doesn't perform (Davis). And then you have a good veteran, who has yet to show signs that he's ready for the big show.

It was when finally one of these 3 guys stepped up, and took the clear advantage in the "who deserves to be on the floor" race, the guy who can be relied on, that Doc was finally able to settle into a good rotation, even if it wasn't the one he had envisioned entering the playoffs. PJ wasn't our best big man in our bench, but he was the most consistent, and it's no coincidence than when he showed this it was the same time that Doc shortened the rotation, and it started late in the Cavs series.

If there's one thing I'd fault Doc in this whole situation, is in that he chose the wrong person in the PG rotation, but that's not the same as the issue you're reffering to.

The PG rotation was Rondo-Cassell. The SG/SF rotation was Ray-Pierce-Posey. Those were pretty much set through the whole playoffs (until Cassell sucked). The PF/C rotation problem was illustrated above, and I put little blame on Doc... I put more blame on players not being ready to perform or be trusted.