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Re: Future King of Hip Hop?
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2008, 09:10:09 PM »

Offline JR Giddens

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"I think people are waiting for an MC that doesn't glorify violence"

NO. Hip Hop fans are waiting for a "REAL" artist. It depends on what "Real" means to them. They want a good rapper, with good beats, and talks about things that matter that they can relate too.

Biggie, Pac, Nas, and many other elite mainstream artists that are considered good rappers in hip hop circles all glorified violence at one point

Re: Future King of Hip Hop?
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2008, 09:58:39 PM »

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If u watch this interview and are a hip hop fan u def wanna kno what this guy is gonna say in his album when its released. Saigon might not be as good as I think he is but atleast he comes off as sincere which most celebrities can't do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c-5tlrq4yg&NR=1
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Re: Future King of Hip Hop?
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2008, 10:49:45 PM »

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Saigon may never be successful on a commercial level. Look at what happened with his unreleased album. He even had the song "Pain In My Life", which was supposed to be his crossover hit.

The thing is, today you don't really need to be on radio.

You never hear Common or Talib Kweli on urban radio, but those guys outsold pretty much everyone last year not named 50 Cent, Kanye, or Wayne.

He's more likely to be remembered as one of those tweener guys, somewhere between commercial and underground. That's not a bad place to be, because his reputation is STRONG as hell.

If I ever see Saigon dancing around to techno beats on MTV wearing white sunglasses , I'll lose all faith in hip hop.

Re: Future King of Hip Hop?
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2008, 11:00:59 PM »

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Didn't Saigon sign with Turtle?  ;D

Re: Future King of Hip Hop?
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2008, 11:52:12 PM »

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Didn't Saigon sign with Turtle?  ;D

Sadly, if I recall correctly, he agrees to sign with Turtle and then reneges on him  :o...Drama and the reptile are less than thrilled about this  :-\

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Re: Future King of Hip Hop?
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2008, 12:57:50 AM »

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Hip Hop is dying. It is just digitally altered R&B nowadays. Way too many cookie cutter "rappers" like Lil Wayne are making it mainstream.

Re: Future King of Hip Hop?
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2008, 11:56:04 AM »

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Hip Hop is dying. It is just digitally altered R&B nowadays. Way too many cookie cutter "rappers" like Lil Wayne are making it mainstream.

Yep even rappers like Common, Nas, and Jay-Z need to feature an R&B singer to make the radio these days

Re: Future King of Hip Hop?
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2008, 12:22:06 PM »

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"I think people are waiting for an MC that doesn't glorify violence"

NO. Hip Hop fans are waiting for a "REAL" artist. It depends on what "Real" means to them. They want a good rapper, with good beats, and talks about things that matter that they can relate too.

Biggie, Pac, Nas, and many other elite mainstream artists that are considered good rappers in hip hop circles all glorified violence at one point

The majority of hip hop fans can't relate to growing up poor in the ghetto, guns, violence, crime. 

I'm just saying that as soon as soemone comes along that breaks the gangsta rap mold they blow up, because their diffrent.  People are tired of hearing the same songs.  You can grab anyone with street cred, that's been to prison or who's got shot and sign him to a record contract based on that alone.

When biggie and tupac were doing it, it was still fresh.  I think its phasing out.  Sadly its all about the record companies, so when Kanye out sold 50, suddenly they realize that the fans don't really care that Kanye isn't a thug. 

When Nirvana came out and became really popular, everyone was trying to sign that type of music, a few good bands emerged but mostly you ended up with a bunch of untalented Nirvana rip offs.

When NWA came out, everyone wanted to sing gangsta rappers, biggie and tupac emerged as a result but mostly we ended up with a bunch of untalented rip offs.         

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« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2008, 01:08:48 PM »

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Hip Hop is dying. It is just digitally altered R&B nowadays. Way too many cookie cutter "rappers" like Lil Wayne are making it mainstream.

Haha, it really is only a matter of time before Lil Wayne finds his way into every rap/hip hop conversation had on this board.

Oh and PS, Saigon and 36 chambers should never be mentioned in the same breath.  No one will ever match that.

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Re: Future King of Hip Hop?
« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2008, 02:01:16 PM »

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This guy is never going to be a commercial success.  If Brother Ali couldn't make it, neither will  this guy.  He's a bit of what I call a "one trick cadence" as well.  It takes a lot to reach mainstream rap success through lyrical power alone.  You need both the lyrical chops, the delivery to match, and have an element that appeals to the masses whether that be the above, good musical hooks / production, etc.  I don't see that in this guy.  That's not to say he's not good, he's just never going to make it commercially.

Re: Future King of Hip Hop?
« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2008, 02:14:58 PM »

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"The majority of hip hop fans can't relate to growing up poor in the ghetto, guns, violence, crime."

Yeah but suburbia still listens. I mean how do explain all those kids with SUVS screaming "Thug Life" out of their windows!

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« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2008, 02:31:41 PM »

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The future king of hip-hop is probably 2pac.

For a dead guy, he had an amazing knack for putting out new material with a keen knowledge of current events.

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« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2008, 04:07:15 PM »

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Don't sleep on Joe Buddens

Re: Future King of Hip Hop?
« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2008, 04:24:05 PM »

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Don't sleep on Joe Buddens

I don't know about Joe Buddens.  He's aight.  My man Lupe is definitely the future although I heard he is only making one more album then he's done.
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Re: Future King of Hip Hop?
« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2008, 04:42:22 PM »

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"The majority of hip hop fans can't relate to growing up poor in the ghetto, guns, violence, crime."

Yeah but suburbia still listens. I mean how do explain all those kids with SUVS screaming "Thug Life" out of their windows!

You're right, maybe I'm just speaking for myself... There's too much image and not enough substance.  I just think that there will be a new wave of non gangsta rap that takes over.