Chrome

[jaketwice]

I will start a new thread so as not to jack this one - but you all do realize that proprietary will never compete with open source? Firefox developers come from the group: anyone in the world. Google developers work at Google.  If Google developers also work on Firefox, then how could Chrome EVER be better?

[NicaraguanFan]

I will start a new thread so as not to jack this one - but you all do realize that proprietary will never compete with open source? Firefox developers come from the group: anyone in the world. Google developers work at Google.  If Google developers also work on Firefox, then how could Chrome EVER be better?

FYI Chrome is open source too...

[BrickJames]

I will start a new thread so as not to jack this one - but you all do realize that proprietary will never compete with open source? Firefox developers come from the group: anyone in the world. Google developers work at Google.  If Google developers also work on Firefox, then how could Chrome EVER be better?

FYI Chrome is open source too...

Negative.  Chromium is the open-source project behind Chrome.  Chromium is open source - Chrome is binary only, closed source, and no doubt has Google's black magic baked into it.

How can Chrome be better?  Zealotry/Fanboyism is a possibility (unlikely), but more likely is money, usury, and similar tactic.

FYI - the Mozilla Foundation is very, very tight with Google.

[NicaraguanFan]

I will start a new thread so as not to jack this one - but you all do realize that proprietary will never compete with open source? Firefox developers come from the group: anyone in the world. Google developers work at Google.  If Google developers also work on Firefox, then how could Chrome EVER be better?

FYI Chrome is open source too...

Negative.  Chromium is the open-source project behind Chrome.  Chromium is open source - Chrome is binary only, closed source, and no doubt has Google's black magic baked into it.

Thank you for make clear this. TP for you.

[CoachCowens]

Chrome has a DoS vulnerability. I would stay away until it is fixed

[Bob Day]

Chrome is eventually going to surpass Firefox. It's pretty much impossible for a company like Mozilla to compete with Google. Google has infinitely more development resources and much more influence to promote it.

What's primarily keeping me with Firefox right now are the extensions. Developers have built a huge library of extensions that make Firefox much powerful than Chrome... for now.

Perhaps, but couldn't you make the same argument about Microsoft?  I mean, they're not exactly a small company, have plenty of resources, and install their web browser on millions of machines that run their operating system.  And yet, Firefox manages not only to compete, but to excel.

I think a big factor difference between Microsoft and Google is that Google is very pro-Open Source whereas Microsoft had been anti-Open Source to the point of near criminality on occasions. Open source of course is what made Mozilla and Firefox great in the first place.

Google has been a huge supporter of big OS projects like Mozilla, Joomla and Drupal. They learned way back what Apple eventually learned. You can't be strong unless you have strong developer support. One of the most important ways they accomplished that was to foster good relations with the Open Source community. It has paid off for them. I imagine it will also pay off with regard to Chrome in time.

The key here is that Google's new browser is Open Source. That in itself will spawn contribution to both the core as well as extension development. It does also, as someone pointed out, potentially open the door for a Chrome/Mozilla-Firefox merger, although whether that ever materializes remains to be seen.

[crownsy]

Chrome is eventually going to surpass Firefox. It's pretty much impossible for a company like Mozilla to compete with Google. Google has infinitely more development resources and much more influence to promote it.

What's primarily keeping me with Firefox right now are the extensions. Developers have built a huge library of extensions that make Firefox much powerful than Chrome... for now.

Perhaps, but couldn't you make the same argument about Microsoft?  I mean, they're not exactly a small company, have plenty of resources, and install their web browser on millions of machines that run their operating system.  And yet, Firefox manages not only to compete, but to excel.

I think a big factor difference between Microsoft and Google is that Google is very pro-Open Source whereas Microsoft had been anti-Open Source to the point of near criminality on occasions. Open source of course is what made Mozilla and Firefox great in the first place.

Google has been a huge supporter of big OS projects like Mozilla, Joomla and Drupal. They learned way back what Apple eventually learned. You can't be strong unless you have strong developer support. One of the most important ways they accomplished that was to foster good relations with the Open Source community. It has paid off for them. I imagine it will also pay off with regard to Chrome in time.

The key here is that Google's new browser is Open Source. That in itself will spawn contribution to both the core as well as extension development. It does also, as someone pointed out, potentially open the door for a Chrome/Mozilla-Firefox merger, although whether that ever materializes remains to be seen.

ok, to clarify, since its been both ways in this thread,  is chrome open source or not open source?

i had heard what was previously reported, that its closed, and google properitary,  but that its based on the open source code from chrominum.

which is it?

[BrickJames]

Chrome is eventually going to surpass Firefox. It's pretty much impossible for a company like Mozilla to compete with Google. Google has infinitely more development resources and much more influence to promote it.

What's primarily keeping me with Firefox right now are the extensions. Developers have built a huge library of extensions that make Firefox much powerful than Chrome... for now.

Perhaps, but couldn't you make the same argument about Microsoft?  I mean, they're not exactly a small company, have plenty of resources, and install their web browser on millions of machines that run their operating system.  And yet, Firefox manages not only to compete, but to excel.

I think a big factor difference between Microsoft and Google is that Google is very pro-Open Source whereas Microsoft had been anti-Open Source to the point of near criminality on occasions. Open source of course is what made Mozilla and Firefox great in the first place.

Google has been a huge supporter of big OS projects like Mozilla, Joomla and Drupal. They learned way back what Apple eventually learned. You can't be strong unless you have strong developer support. One of the most important ways they accomplished that was to foster good relations with the Open Source community. It has paid off for them. I imagine it will also pay off with regard to Chrome in time.

The key here is that Google's new browser is Open Source. That in itself will spawn contribution to both the core as well as extension development. It does also, as someone pointed out, potentially open the door for a Chrome/Mozilla-Firefox merger, although whether that ever materializes remains to be seen.

ok, to clarify, since its been both ways in this thread,  is chrome open source or not open source?

i had heard what was previously reported, that its closed, and google properitary,  but that its based on the open source code from chrominum.

which is it?

It is what I said, Chrome is NOT open source.

Chromium, what Chrome is *based* off of, is. 

There is a distinct difference.  Do a search for "Download Chrome source", and you will be pointed at chromium.

If there were no difference, it would say "Chrome source". 

Chrome's source is not available.

Bob must be a Googlite .  I am very, very skeptical of Big Brother Google.

[guava_wrench]

I've been reading about Chrome the past couple days while on the john at work... meant to try it out last night.  The article I read today was a thorough review from someone who's been using it for 2-3 weeks now and I'm guessing I'll echo most people here.... great potential but sticking with Firefox for the time being.  Not sure if I'll like that each tab is it's own page or that there are no menu buttons.

My understanding is that each tab being its own browser process is for performance enhancement. It still will look like one browser with multiple tabs...

If this means one page acting poorly will not require all windows to be killed (like with FireFox and IE), than that sounds like a good idea.

[BrickJames]

I've been reading about Chrome the past couple days while on the john at work... meant to try it out last night.  The article I read today was a thorough review from someone who's been using it for 2-3 weeks now and I'm guessing I'll echo most people here.... great potential but sticking with Firefox for the time being.  Not sure if I'll like that each tab is it's own page or that there are no menu buttons.

My understanding is that each tab being its own browser process is for performance enhancement. It still will look like one browser with multiple tabs...

If this means one page acting poorly will not require all windows to be killed (like with FireFox and IE), than that sounds like a good idea.

It's a good idea, but it's bloated.  Your browser now requires more juice than Vista itself if you have more than a few tabs open.

Plus, I'm dubious if it will even work.  For example, typing "evil:%" in the URL bar crashes the entire app, not just one tab.

[Bob Day]

Chrome is eventually going to surpass Firefox. It's pretty much impossible for a company like Mozilla to compete with Google. Google has infinitely more development resources and much more influence to promote it.

What's primarily keeping me with Firefox right now are the extensions. Developers have built a huge library of extensions that make Firefox much powerful than Chrome... for now.

Perhaps, but couldn't you make the same argument about Microsoft?  I mean, they're not exactly a small company, have plenty of resources, and install their web browser on millions of machines that run their operating system.  And yet, Firefox manages not only to compete, but to excel.

I think a big factor difference between Microsoft and Google is that Google is very pro-Open Source whereas Microsoft had been anti-Open Source to the point of near criminality on occasions. Open source of course is what made Mozilla and Firefox great in the first place.

Google has been a huge supporter of big OS projects like Mozilla, Joomla and Drupal. They learned way back what Apple eventually learned. You can't be strong unless you have strong developer support. One of the most important ways they accomplished that was to foster good relations with the Open Source community. It has paid off for them. I imagine it will also pay off with regard to Chrome in time.

The key here is that Google's new browser is Open Source. That in itself will spawn contribution to both the core as well as extension development. It does also, as someone pointed out, potentially open the door for a Chrome/Mozilla-Firefox merger, although whether that ever materializes remains to be seen.

ok, to clarify, since its been both ways in this thread,  is chrome open source or not open source?

i had heard what was previously reported, that its closed, and google properitary,  but that its based on the open source code from chrominum.

which is it?

It is what I said, Chrome is NOT open source.

Chromium, what Chrome is *based* off of, is. 

There is a distinct difference.  Do a search for "Download Chrome source", and you will be pointed at chromium.

If there were no difference, it would say "Chrome source". 

Chrome's source is not available.

Bob must be a Googlite .  I am very, very skeptical of Big Brother Google.

This is actually my mistake. I got a Google developer's notice and didn't read the fine print. Yes, Chrome and Chromium have different licensing. No one should doubt Google's commitment to Open Source though. It's not just a typical business strategy, it's an actualization strategy as well.

And no, I'm not a Googlite, I'm just Good.

[CoachCowens]

Funny thing about Open Source in todays world is that once it gets good it's often bought by a big company.

The cover of this weeks Information week....Sun buys mysql, Citrix buys Xensource, RedHat buys JBoss

[BrickJames]

And no, I'm not a Googlite, I'm just Good.

Who patched that negative TP hole again?

yw

[zerophase]

its too buggy right now and i still love firefox too much for me to switch.

[Bob Day]

And no, I'm not a Googlite, I'm just Good.

Who patched that negative TP hole again?

yw

I did. You didn't even know what software we were running and provided a so called patch that had absolutely no relevance to anything code we use around here. Take it off-site and stop trying to bait me here. This is about the third or fourth time you've done it, it's not what this site is about and it's not fun any more. Take it off-site and show me something you've done besides steal common hacks and talk big talk?