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Re: Too Many Forwards
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2008, 08:13:03 AM »

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I'd rather release Scalabrine and sign a center for the minimum than see him on the court.

C - Perkins, O'Bryant
PF - Garnett, Powe, Davis, Scalabrine
SF - Pierce, Miles, Walker
SG - R. Allen, T. Allen, Giddens
PG - Rondo, House, Pruitt

I don't see too many forwards at all. 


  In spite of his height I think we're looking more at

C - Perkins, Davis, O'Bryant
PF - Garnett, Powe, Scalabrine
SF - Pierce, Miles, Walker
SG - R. Allen, T. Allen, Giddens
PG - Rondo, House, Pruitt

Re: Too Many Forwards
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2008, 08:31:54 AM »

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I'd rather release Scalabrine and sign a center for the minimum than see him on the court.

C - Perkins, O'Bryant
PF - Garnett, Powe, Davis, Scalabrine
SF - Pierce, Miles, Walker
SG - R. Allen, T. Allen, Giddens
PG - Rondo, House, Pruitt

I don't see too many forwards at all. 



  In spite of his height I think we're looking more at

C - Perkins, Davis, O'Bryant
PF - Garnett, Powe, Scalabrine
SF - Pierce, Miles, Walker
SG - R. Allen, T. Allen, Giddens
PG - Rondo, House, Pruitt


I agree. Stop thinking in terms of traditional position. Davis is well suited to played the 5 against a lot of squads. In fact, I think it boils down more to matchups than anything.

Rondo,House,Pruitt
Allen, Allen,Giddens, House, Pruitt
Pierce, Miles, Walker, Allen (T), Giddens
Garnett, Powe, Davis, Miles, Scalabine
Perkins, Obie, Davis, Garnett,

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Re: Too Many Forwards
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2008, 08:41:09 AM »

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Well Miles hasn't made the team yet and Walker is likely going to the NBDL  Then add the flexibility of all the multi-position players on the roster, and I think this is a non-issue.

Re: Too Many Forwards
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2008, 08:48:30 AM »

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[I'll say this, our current team should have some great small ball units (which aren't that small, just smaller than our usual). We have a ton of athletic players who can run up the court very well and finish strong around the hoop... all that and still be capable defenders if not very good. Many long arms and good rebounders on our team, that should help a ton.
YES.  That is precisely the area of weakness that Danny noticed in the playoffs, especially against a team like Atlanta.  He publicly stated that he wanted a more athletic roster next year, and I believe he's accomplished that.  This team can now play half-court or up-tempo

Re: Too Many Forwards
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2008, 03:19:10 PM »

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[I'll say this, our current team should have some great small ball units (which aren't that small, just smaller than our usual). We have a ton of athletic players who can run up the court very well and finish strong around the hoop... all that and still be capable defenders if not very good. Many long arms and good rebounders on our team, that should help a ton.
YES.  That is precisely the area of weakness that Danny noticed in the playoffs, especially against a team like Atlanta.  He publicly stated that he wanted a more athletic roster next year, and I believe he's accomplished that.  This team can now play half-court or up-tempo
we also have possibly added a few players who can help against lebron james

Re: Too Many Forwards
« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2008, 04:04:24 PM »

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I'm not sure who would trade for Scal but of the available Big men in his price range (excluding those who are obviously not on the block like say Joakim Noah or Fabricio Oberto, yes there salaries are close...scary..)

They all seem to be 6'11 PF/C for some reason?

Channing Frye (Portland will SO not want to trade with the Celtics if Miles is placed back on their cap because of us)

Andray Blatche (don't see the Wizards doing this with a rival no less)

Villanueva (I don't know if they are still trading Villanueva or not? but for Scal.....doubtful)

Also I don't think the Lakers would feel they were "helping us out" by giving us Chris Mihm in a trade.  ;D

This is like a re-run of my thoughts when I'm looking at Trade-Machine

Re: Too Many Forwards
« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2008, 10:04:57 PM »

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i dont think it is a case of too many forwards, as much as a case of too many tweeners and players who are 6'9" or shorter having to compete with top nba centers.

one more good center/7' would be ideal for this team.

maybe POB will work out, but it is a large gamble to place much faith in his ability to suddenly blossom into a NBA center into who can log 20+ minutes a night against the better centers in the league.

but aside from POB, who else can back up perk and garnett against other teams' bigs? big baby (aka "two chairs") and powe are good, but when the play offs roll around, can they do an adequate job on howard? duncan? yao ming? nowitzki?

powe and big baby will do nicely against the 2nd string fowards on most nba teams. but when the playoffs roll around, there will be very few bad teams.

granted very few players can match up with those centers, but at least pj brown could make them work to get their points. and, pj did very well against 2nd string centers.perk makes them work as well. but after perk, who fills in?

so, my worry is not over too many forwards. i am more worried that the celtics' lack of depth at center may come back to haunt them.
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Re: Too Many Forwards
« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2008, 10:10:51 PM »

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The problem with our forwards is mainly the lack of height at the 3 (unless Miles signs).

Also, more than having too many forwards, this roster lacks a reliable backup center and guys who can shoot the rock. None of our backup swingmen is a proven NBA shooter. That leaves me concerned.

Re: Too Many Forwards
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2008, 10:21:16 PM »

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I hope POB gets big this summer. Keep him away from Miles' diet drugs.

Re: Too Many Forwards
« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2008, 10:42:13 PM »

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The problem with our forwards is mainly the lack of height at the 3 (unless Miles signs).

Also, more than having too many forwards, this roster lacks a reliable backup center and guys who can shoot the rock. None of our backup swingmen is a proven NBA shooter. That leaves me concerned.

Great point made. All of our swingmen are either slashers or streaky shooters. We can't expect House to make all of the shots off the bench, and we're screwed if Pat'0 and Perk get into foul trouble against a team with good Centers. I want Ainge to keep Miles, but one or two of our forwards need to be traded somewhere for a C and decend shooter. I hate the fact that we missed out on Dorrell Wright. To me he sounded perfect for the job, too late. So assuming that our 12 man roster looks like this (Rondo,House,Allen(2),Pierce,Miles,KG,Powe,Perk,Pat0,Giddens,BBD.) Pruitt,Walker,and Scal would be our extras.
Scal and BBD/Powe are the oddmen out. I like Powe better, but he might have more trade value right now. Are there any trade options out there that include a 7 footer and shooting SF?
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Re: Too Many Forwards
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2008, 11:25:53 PM »

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The problem with our forwards is mainly the lack of height at the 3 (unless Miles signs).

Also, more than having too many forwards, this roster lacks a reliable backup center and guys who can shoot the rock. None of our backup swingmen is a proven NBA shooter. That leaves me concerned.

.. and we're screwed if Pat'0 and Perk get into foul trouble against a team with good Centers...


So of the stuff on this board is crazy - I think every team is screwed if their starting and back up centers get in foul trouble, what team has three legit centers?

Also you say we would be screwed if it happens against a team with good "centers" - how many teams have 1 good center forget about 2

The team is fine, my only concern is clutch shooting off the bench, I always felt good with posey spotting up and him and house on the floor together really could space the floor.

Re: Too Many Forwards
« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2008, 02:18:51 AM »

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Read the Antoine Walker vs. Brian Scalabrine thread to get another idea of what could happen for our PF logjam
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