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Too Many Forwards
« on: August 22, 2008, 10:52:00 PM »

Offline gpap

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Call me crazy (I usually am), but we do we not currently have too many fowards on our roster.  With the addition of Miles and Walker, I believe that now makes it SEVEN fowards on our roster (including Pierce and T. Allen.)

Shouldn't we be looking at acquiring a back-up center instead of 23 different fowards?  And please don't tell me Danny Ainge is going to rest his laurels on Patrick O'Bryant.
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2008, 11:00:43 PM »

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Yep Tony Allen, JR Giddens, Bill Wlaker, and Darius Miles want to play at the 2 and 3 spots. But I am happy that Paul Pierce and Ray Allen won't have to play 35+ a night anymore. Ray Allen was playing like 44/48 in the Finals as a near 33 yr old. It was crazy.

However Darius is a pretty good low post defender when he was with the Clippers.

I would like to have a 7 foot center in back of Perk and in front of Patrick and our roster would be scary good.

If Darius can play minutes at the four spot then KG could take over at center for some time while perk is on the bench. And when KG is on the bench you can put in Powe to take his spot and have Perk at center.

But if Tony Allen and Darius Miles can redeem themselves we have a good chance of seeing an 18th banner next year.
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If Miles makes the roster SOMEBODY will be on the trading block between Scal/BBD/Powe/TA/Walker

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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2008, 11:37:55 PM »

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If Miles makes the roster SOMEBODY will be on the trading block between Scal/BBD/Powe/TA/Walker

Oh yeah...I forgot about Scalabrine. Make that eight fowards on the roster. Although Scalabrine is forgetable for obvious reasons...haha.  The Celtics can try to trade him, but they won't get much in return.

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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2008, 12:18:18 AM »

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IMO Scalabrine is straight trash. He looks clueless when he's playing

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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2008, 12:21:15 AM »

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I'd rather release Scalabrine and sign a center for the minimum than see him on the court.

C - Perkins, O'Bryant
PF - Garnett, Powe, Davis, Scalabrine
SF - Pierce, Miles, Walker
SG - R. Allen, T. Allen, Giddens
PG - Rondo, House, Pruitt

I don't see too many forwards at all. 

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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2008, 12:24:21 AM »

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Call me crazy (I usually am), but we do we not currently have too many fowards on our roster.  With the addition of Miles and Walker, I believe that now makes it SEVEN fowards on our roster (including Pierce and T. Allen.)

Shouldn't we be looking at acquiring a back-up center instead of 23 different fowards?  And please don't tell me Danny Ainge is going to rest his laurels on Patrick O'Bryant.

While the way his services are used this year remains to be determined, Tony Allen has definitively been a guard in his time in town.  That there is some consideration to using him at the three is a testament to the *quality* depth issues created by the departure of James Posey - no matter how many players with the forward label are on the roster.

I'm excited about Bill Walker and, for lack of a kinder term, intrigued by Darius Miles.

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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2008, 12:39:02 AM »

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I'd rather release Scalabrine and sign a center for the minimum than see him on the court.

C - Perkins, O'Bryant
PF - Garnett, Powe, Davis, Scalabrine
SF - Pierce, Miles, Walker
SG - R. Allen, T. Allen, Giddens
PG - Rondo, House, Pruitt

I don't see too many forwards at all. 


We can't (shouldn't) just cut him. He's due 3 mil for the next two seasons. We have to find a team that is interested in trading a trade pick for him...OR..a team with a C close to his money that we could use..who's out there?
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2008, 12:53:20 AM »

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I don't see enough trade options that would make sense for both teams. OKC sends Saer Sene for Scal. Scal for Chris Mihm in LAL. LAL sign-and-trade of DJ MBDeja? for Scal. I can't see LA helping us out though. Maybe something else will pan out through out the season. Our fall back option should be trading Scal and BBD for any one player so we can create space for PJ Brown if he would.
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2008, 01:10:32 AM »

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Scal's expiring will be moved along with one of our promising prospects next year. Otherwise is hard to see anyone taking his salary along with an unproven player. He is a better road player so maybe the Garden fans need to lighten up - but with a name like Scal-i-brin-e how can you resist.

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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2008, 01:18:00 AM »

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I'm not sure who would trade for Scal but of the available Big men in his price range (excluding those who are obviously not on the block like say Joakim Noah or Fabricio Oberto, yes there salaries are close...scary..)

They all seem to be 6'11 PF/C for some reason?

Channing Frye (Portland will SO not want to trade with the Celtics if Miles is placed back on their cap because of us)

Andray Blatche (don't see the Wizards doing this with a rival no less)

Villanueva (I don't know if they are still trading Villanueva or not? but for Scal.....doubtful)

Also I don't think the Lakers would feel they were "helping us out" by giving us Chris Mihm in a trade.  ;D

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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2008, 02:42:27 AM »

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I'd rather release Scalabrine and sign a center for the minimum than see him on the court.

C - Perkins, O'Bryant
PF - Garnett, Powe, Davis, Scalabrine
SF - Pierce, Miles, Walker
SG - R. Allen, T. Allen, Giddens
PG - Rondo, House, Pruitt

I don't see too many forwards at all. 


We can't (shouldn't) just cut him. He's due 3 mil for the next two seasons. We have to find a team that is interested in trading a trade pick for him...OR..a team with a C close to his money that we could use..who's out there?

Did you mean a team willing to take him if we also add a pick? No one will give up a pick for the prize of paying his contract.

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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2008, 03:19:11 AM »

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IMO Scalabrine is straight trash. He looks clueless when he's playing




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Garnett can and will play the 5 when they run small. If Miles can contribute at the pf spot...I'm not too sure I can call it small..

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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2008, 06:50:00 AM »

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Garnett can and will play the 5 when they run small. If Miles can contribute at the pf spot...I'm not too sure I can call it small..

I don't think the problem with our small ball throughout the season had much to do with Garnett playing the 5 as much as it was who was playing the 4. Most of the times it was Posey in there for better or worse, and it was more of a "trust" factor with him rather than him being the adequate player to use in those situations. The addition of PJ Brown solved this problem, since he became the trusted guy in the back-up 4/5 positions.

As small ball is concerned, we never really went that small. We were quite big for a small ball unit.

I'll say this, our current team should have some great small ball units (which aren't that small, just smaller than our usual). We have a ton of athletic players who can run up the court very well and finish strong around the hoop... all that and still be capable defenders if not very good. Many long arms and good rebounders on our team, that should help a ton.