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To Improve, Should We Make a Trade?
« on: August 13, 2008, 03:53:07 PM »

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The window for this team to contend for a championship is at most 2 to 3 years. Shouldn't we take advantage of this once in a lifetime chance having three superstars on one team to repeat, then we should provide Doc with better pieces to work with. I'm not bashing our players, but I just don't think we should ruin this opportunity. Its simple, WE NEED MORE HELP!

Any suggestions?

My suggestion would be for Travis Outlaw, he's not expensive AVG $4Mil for the next two seasons. He was one of the top 6th man in the game last year. Isn't afraid to compete against the best and can hold his own, I guess that's why they call him "Mr. 4th Quarter". He is raw, athletic, scorer, and clutch in the 4th quarter. Sounds too good, He is that good.

Last Season: PPG-13.3   MPG-26.7   FG-0.433   3p%-0.396   RPG-4.6   BPG-0.08   

He's listed as a (6-9) SF, so that could solve our SF problem everyone talks about. Travis could blossom into a star this year with the right team, plus he's only 23 YO. Currently, Blazers have 7 players including Travis that can play the Forward position. So he is expandable, but will the Blazers trade him with all that potential. If they will what can the Celtics offer them?

Don't know much about how trades works, but probably a combination of BBD, TA, House, one of the rookies, and 2nd round should do. Trading Scal isn't an option, i just don't see a team in the right mind would take Scal especially with that contract. Scal probably retires a Celtic.
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Re: To improve, should we make a trade?
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2008, 04:09:17 PM »

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This squad as compiled has an excellent opportunity to be one of the historical elite teams, a squad that could truely stand shoulder-to-shoulder with the Boston Celtics of the seventies and eighties. But they must strike while the iron is hot. Our veteran core is older, and the heft of their respective contracts do not lend to the idea that the Big 3 will remain as such past 2010. The rest of the league reacted to Celts '08 dominance by making significant upgrades to their own rosters, and that is to be expected. And while there is something to be said for not messing with a good thing, or winning with the horse you road in on, or one of the many colloquial sayings that justify not making any drastic changes, to which I generally agree, also I know I'm not the only one that's a little perplexed with the direction of the off-season, at least up to this point. This team won,yes, but the post season revealed some significant vulnerabilities that our opponents next year will be better prepared to exploit. And with the loses of Posey and PJ Brown, it would be difficult to argue that this year's team as it stands today is better that the team that captured the crown. In order to stand as champions again, it's vital that we make the needed adjustments now, or the great '08 will end up just a blip on the NBA's dynasty radar.

Re: To improve, should we make a trade?
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2008, 04:11:30 PM »

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Just not very likely. 


Why are the other teams going to make the trade?   Who do the Celtics have that is going to net a big return?

Re: To Improve, Should We Make a Trade?
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2008, 04:31:03 PM »

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what would we be able to give up to get something of decent value in return? our best trading chip would be posey, who we lost to free agency.

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Re: To Improve, Should We Make a Trade?
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2008, 04:35:44 PM »

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Any team could be easily persuaded with the right offer. I just have a hard time believing that the Blazers would give him up with what we have. Right now we have 2 rookies that could have been lottery pick in the right circumstance, and Erden probably would've been a 1st round pick in the near future. If the Blazers rejects our offer....we could give up 2010 1st round pick which probably would be a late pick.

Blazers are known for accumulating draft picks, don't know why? but they do. 1st round pick could be too enticing for the Blazers. So will have JR, Walker, Erden, OUTLAW to compensate for the 1st round lose. Not too Shabby...huh.
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I like the idea of clearing out some roster spots at jammed positions for a good prospect at a position of need. Outlaw looks good, but I'm not sure we have the right players or salaries to interest Portland. The same is probably true with my idea.

Nonetheless, since Posey left for New Orleans I can't help but look at Julian Wright. He'd be a good fit. They have so many players at small forward that will probably play ahead of him he might have a hard time getting minutes. Plus, the Hornets have such a need to bolster other areas on their roster that I can't help but "trick" myself into believing New orleans might consider this proposal:

J. Wright for G. Davis, J.R. Giddens, and Pruitt.

Baby is a New Orleans favortite-son and gives them the help they need down low. Pruitt might be a nice replacment for Pargo, who looks like he is jumping ship. Giddens is  essentially a first round pick at a position of need for them (shooting guard). The trade helps round out both rosters at positions of need and ruduces redundency.

NO Oulook:
Paul, James, Pruitt
Peterson, Giddens,
Peja, Posey, Bowen
West, Ely/Davis
Chandler, Armstrong/Davis

Boston:
Rondo, House,
R. Allen, T. Allen, Walker
Paul, Wright, Scal
KG, Powe
Perkins, Patrick

Leaves Boston with three open roster spots to fill with vets chasing rings.

I know, I know, Hornets never do this.
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Re: To Improve, Should We Make a Trade?
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2008, 04:37:40 PM »

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what would we be able to give up to get something of decent value in return? our best trading chip would be posey, who we lost to free agency.

I think our best trade asset is Ray Allen. But I don't see us trading him. I would trade him cause i don't think he'll be healthy enough to play the entire season this year. His expiring contract would be attractive, plus he had a great season last year so his trade value is at the highest in my opinion.

Re: To Improve, Should We Make a Trade?
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2008, 04:42:22 PM »

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what would we be able to give up to get something of decent value in return? our best trading chip would be posey, who we lost to free agency.

I think our best trade asset is Ray Allen. But I don't see us trading him. I would trade him cause i don't think he'll be healthy enough to play the entire season this year. His expiring contract would be attractive, plus he had a great season last year so his trade value is at the highest in my opinion.


Noway for Ray Allen, Pure shooters are hard to find. Plus remember Reggie Miller played till he was 39 and guess what? he still Averaged 15ppg his last season. Once Ray's contract expires, Danny would be Dumb not to resign him.

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what would we be able to give up to get something of decent value in return? our best trading chip would be posey, who we lost to free agency.

I think our best trade asset is Ray Allen. But I don't see us trading him. I would trade him cause i don't think he'll be healthy enough to play the entire season this year. His expiring contract would be attractive, plus he had a great season last year so his trade value is at the highest in my opinion.


his contract isn't expiring, check back next year.
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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2008, 08:56:06 PM »

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We should always look to improve.  I can't see trading Ray, he did a great job last year on both ends of the court in all facets of the game.  His age is NOT a factor.  I feel our trading chips are really Leon or Davis, both pf(logjam) that can help certain teams.  The rest of our team minus starters can be replaced by us or other teams.  Why don't we just sign Lebron when his contract is up? 8)

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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2008, 09:04:32 PM »

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what would we be able to give up to get something of decent value in return? our best trading chip would be posey, who we lost to free agency.

I think our best trade asset is Ray Allen. But I don't see us trading him. I would trade him cause i don't think he'll be healthy enough to play the entire season this year. His expiring contract would be attractive, plus he had a great season last year so his trade value is at the highest in my opinion.

Ray Allen is probably in the best shape of any Celtic and his body type leans toward him staying in shape. I really don't get it when people say to trade Ray Allen.

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« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2008, 09:06:09 PM »

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what would we be able to give up to get something of decent value in return? our best trading chip would be posey, who we lost to free agency.

I think our best trade asset is Ray Allen. But I don't see us trading him. I would trade him cause i don't think he'll be healthy enough to play the entire season this year. His expiring contract would be attractive, plus he had a great season last year so his trade value is at the highest in my opinion.

Ray Allen is probably in the best shape of any Celtic and his body type leans toward him staying in shape. I really don't get it when people say to trade Ray Allen.

he's the least flashy, and thus the people who can't stand pat think he's a replaceable part.

nothing could be further from the truth for this team at the current time.
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« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2008, 09:22:42 PM »

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I would offer Glenn Davis and Brian Scalabrine for Trevor Ariza and Colby Karl.

IMO, it would make both teams better, but Scalabrine's second year would hurt. 

What is the largest amount of money that we can give in that trade?   

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« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2008, 09:51:35 PM »

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I would offer Glenn Davis and Brian Scalabrine for Trevor Ariza and Colby Karl.

IMO, it would make both teams better, but Scalabrine's second year would hurt. 

What is the largest amount of money that we can give in that trade?   

$3 million. That's almost half of Scals contract for a team under the luxury tax threshold. Scal + one of BBD/Powe + unsigned rookie/pick + 3 million in cash can probably be enough to get some value from a team without luxury tax concerns. But the same assets will be more valuable in the next off-season, I think.

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« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2008, 09:58:26 PM »

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If we can improve the team, Danny will be the first to make a trade. This provided there is a willing partner available that wants something we have in return. It takes two to Tango. 8)
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