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Re: Posey was an Awakening
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2008, 02:27:06 PM »

Offline BballTim

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I think the awakening is that Boston is still not a desirable place for NBA FA's. We all thought a chance to win a championship would be enough attract a good FA for less money. Well bottom line, it is not!!!

  Posey playing here last year for $3.2M shows that you're wrong. Also, there was at least one FA this year who said he would have played for the Celts for less than he took but they didn't make him an offer. You also had Sam give up money last year to play for us and PJ come out of retirement to play for us after he'd turned down other offers to play.

Re: Posey was an Awakening
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2008, 05:31:52 PM »

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Who's to say he won't have as good of a chance for a championship in New Orleans and make more money?  It's not like he left the C's for a team with no talent.  I get the point of the argument, but he's going to a really good team, who, in all likelihood, will be better than the Celtics by the end of Posey's contract.

TP well earned, Redz.  I think there's an important distinction to be made between the Childress and Posey signings, and it's that of Childress that is far more relevant to this sort of discussion.

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Re: Posey was an Awakening
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2008, 05:38:40 PM »

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i dont think the dude coulda picked a more mutual team, outa the east, not the lakers, no real bad guys on the team. he'll fit in well fo sho
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Re: Posey was an Awakening
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2008, 07:53:38 PM »

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Posey signing elsewhere for way more years says absolutely nothing about Boston's desirability as a FA destination.               

Re: Posey was an Awakening
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2008, 03:47:45 PM »

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trust me, i wish posey stayed here, but i cant fault him for going for stability. this is his last chance to earn a meaningful salary. he earned the money and the extra years other teams werent willing to pay him for.  he has won two titles, i cant knock him.  plus he is going to another really solid team.
"Meaningful salary"?  I think you and I have a much different definition of that term.   Whatever contract he signed after last year would have been more money than he'll spend the rest of his life and his kids' lives.

I can't fault a player for taking as much money as he can get since the vast majority of us would do the same thing however, the vast majority of us aren't getting offers where the worst offer is more than enough money to live very comfortably for a lifetime and plenty to leave to family afterwards.
"Comparable" salary I would consider as a more accurate term.  "Meaningful" to me puts in it in the realm of everyone's relative value for what they produce.

  yes a meaningful salary in the nba world, which is the topic of discussion, not with regards to the common joe.  obviously they make an obscene amount of money compared to the average person.  he earned a meaningful salary with regards to his peers.  there are plenty of players who earn less and a lot of players who earn more, thus meaningful salary can be applied.


Re: Posey was an Awakening
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2008, 04:16:51 PM »

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I think the awakening is that Boston is still not a desirable place for NBA FA's. We all thought a chance to win a championship would be enough attract a good FA for less money. Well bottom line, it is not!!!

That's not true at all.  If the Celtics had offered the same contract that the Hornets had, Posey would be wearing green next year.  Corey Maggete also mentioned that he would possibly accept a MLE deal from the Celtics before getting offered $10 mil/yr.  Eddie House, who got his ring, and has played in cities such as LA and Phoenix, decided to resign with the Celtics, even though he probably could've gotten more money and/or playing time elsewhere.

If anything, this past season totally disproved all the myths about players not wanting to play in Boston.  Players essentially want 3 things: money, a chance to win and playing time. If the Celtics are able to offer that to a player, they'd gladly come.  The problem right now is, with the team being over the salary cap, they can't compete with some teams in terms of money, so what they have to offer mostly is the chance to win.  Some will take it.  Some won't.

But the reason Boston wasn't getting anyone good before is because they really only had playing time as the only incentive.  But if we're talking about good free agents, they'd get that pretty much anywhere, so Ainge never really had any leverage in the past.

Re: Posey was an Awakening
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2008, 04:28:35 PM »

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Maybe we should have given somebody in his 30s a long-term contract.  Worked really well for the Mets with Pedro.

I'd rather err on the side of caution with a role player.....Even a key role player like Posey.

Re: Posey was an Awakening
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2008, 04:30:46 PM »

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FA's not wanting to play in Boston?  are you kidding me?  did Michael Wilbon brainwash you or something?

Posey left for substantially more money.  period.

Or if you chose to believe Michael Wilbon (who seems to have caught a free ride on this), Posey didn't want to play in Boston because he's black and everyone knows Boston is a racist city.  Isn't that right Michael Wilbon?

Just ask that Jemele Hill (another ESPN "reporter")............ 

Re: Posey was an Awakening
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2008, 07:44:43 PM »

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"Comparable" salary I would consider as a more accurate term.  "Meaningful" to me puts in it in the realm of everyone's relative value for what they produce.

are u really nit-picking that much?  u know what i meant and i explained where i was coming from.


trust me, i wish posey stayed here, but i cant fault him for going for stability. this is his last chance to earn a meaningful salary. he earned the money and the extra years other teams werent willing to pay him for.  he has won two titles, i cant knock him.  plus he is going to another really solid team.
"Meaningful salary"?  I think you and I have a much different definition of that term.   Whatever contract he signed after last year would have been more money than he'll spend the rest of his life and his kids' lives.

I can't fault a player for taking as much money as he can get since the vast majority of us would do the same thing however, the vast majority of us aren't getting offers where the worst offer is more than enough money to live very comfortably for a lifetime and plenty to leave to family afterwards.

  yes a meaningful salary in the nba world, which is the topic of discussion, not with regards to the common joe.  obviously they make an obscene amount of money compared to the average person.  he earned a meaningful salary with regards to his peers.  there are plenty of players who earn less and a lot of players who earn more, thus meaningful salary can be applied.