Manny to the Dodgers

[Rondoholic]

For the amount the Sox were willing to give up, they should have tried to get the Rockies involved instead of the Pirates.  Matt Holliday is who I wanted, not mediocre Jason Bay who hit a scorching .247 last year.  Hopefully they can land Holliday when he becomes a FA in 2010.

[BringToughnessBack]

Bay is hitting .209 with RISP and .193 vs lefties
Manny is hitting .309 with RISP and .274 vs lefties

That is very concerning to me..ugh.

[Mean Gerald Green]

For the amount the Sox were willing to give up, they should have tried to get the Rockies involved instead of the Pirates.  Matt Holliday is who I wanted, not mediocre Jason Bay who hit a scorching .247 last year.  Hopefully they can land Holliday when he becomes a FA in 2010.

I'm with ya I've been saying this for months. Some people on this blog thought it would be a bad idea to trade Manny and a lower prospect in a 3 way deal where we end up with Holliday - now it's been done and we get Jason Bay.

Would have much rather had Matt Holliday....but we'll see how this works out.

[Donoghus]

Diversity? Can he hit and play LF well?


We have a Native American CF, FWIW.

these things matter to me. i like diversity in this day and age....not a huge thing, but something i think about none the less.......

Ellsbury - Native American
Lugo - Dominican
Ortiz - Dominican
Cora - Dominican
Coco - African American
Lowell - Puerto Rican
Matzusaka - Japanese
Okajima - Japanese
Delcarmen - Dominican
Colon Dominican
Lopez - Puerto Rican


Diversity? That's 44% of their 25 man roster.

go look at our prospects list....this is going in the wrong direction IMO.

http://www.soxprospects.com/

If you're going by rankings, that is entirely based on perceived talent and not race.  So I don't think that's a call to any sort of lack of racial diversity. 

Looking down the list when expanded to 60, I see multiple races represented.  I see quite a few latinos, a few asians, plenty of whites. 

Sorry, I don't see a lack of diversity there, either.

[winsomme]

Diversity? Can he hit and play LF well?


We have a Native American CF, FWIW.

these things matter to me. i like diversity in this day and age....not a huge thing, but something i think about none the less.......

Ellsbury - Native American
Lugo - Dominican
Ortiz - Dominican
Cora - Dominican
Coco - African American
Lowell - Puerto Rican
Matzusaka - Japanese
Okajima - Japanese
Delcarmen - Dominican
Colon Dominican
Lopez - Puerto Rican


Diversity? That's 44% of their 25 man roster.

go look at our prospects list....this is going in the wrong direction IMO.

http://www.soxprospects.com/

If you're going by rankings, that is entirely based on perceived talent and not race.  So I don't think that's a call to any sort of lack of racial diversity. 

Looking down the list when expanded to 60, I see multiple races represented.  I see quite a few latinos, a few asians, plenty of whites. 

Sorry, I don't see a lack of diversity there, either.

the point i'm making about the prospects is that these are the guys that are heading our direction....doesn't talent make it more likely a guy will make the big club?

again, not a huge deal, but something i think about....

[threzd]

Terrible trade..Jason Bay is represented by Scott Boras as well.

[Mean Gerald Green]

Diversity? Can he hit and play LF well?


We have a Native American CF, FWIW.

these things matter to me. i like diversity in this day and age....not a huge thing, but something i think about none the less.......

Ellsbury - Native American
Lugo - Dominican
Ortiz - Dominican
Cora - Dominican
Coco - African American
Lowell - Puerto Rican
Matzusaka - Japanese
Okajima - Japanese
Delcarmen - Dominican
Colon Dominican
Lopez - Puerto Rican


Diversity? That's 44% of their 25 man roster.

go look at our prospects list....this is going in the wrong direction IMO.

http://www.soxprospects.com/

If you're going by rankings, that is entirely based on perceived talent and not race.  So I don't think that's a call to any sort of lack of racial diversity. 

Looking down the list when expanded to 60, I see multiple races represented.  I see quite a few latinos, a few asians, plenty of whites. 

Sorry, I don't see a lack of diversity there, either.

I'm sure the Red Sox care more about assembling a winning team than they do about filling a diversity quota. Usually those two go hand-in-hand....but to suggest that they need to keep a player simply to maintain diversity is pretty out there.

[winsomme]

Diversity? Can he hit and play LF well?


We have a Native American CF, FWIW.

these things matter to me. i like diversity in this day and age....not a huge thing, but something i think about none the less.......

Ellsbury - Native American
Lugo - Dominican
Ortiz - Dominican
Cora - Dominican
Coco - African American
Lowell - Puerto Rican
Matzusaka - Japanese
Okajima - Japanese
Delcarmen - Dominican
Colon Dominican
Lopez - Puerto Rican


Diversity? That's 44% of their 25 man roster.

go look at our prospects list....this is going in the wrong direction IMO.

http://www.soxprospects.com/

But the 44% of the current roster doesn't denote diversity?

yeah, there's diversity there.....but the team we watch night in and night out is not that diverse to me and seems to be heading the other direction......that's just how it looks to me.

i don't think it is some plan, but i still notice it....

[winsomme]

Diversity? Can he hit and play LF well?


We have a Native American CF, FWIW.

these things matter to me. i like diversity in this day and age....not a huge thing, but something i think about none the less.......

Ellsbury - Native American
Lugo - Dominican
Ortiz - Dominican
Cora - Dominican
Coco - African American
Lowell - Puerto Rican
Matzusaka - Japanese
Okajima - Japanese
Delcarmen - Dominican
Colon Dominican
Lopez - Puerto Rican


Diversity? That's 44% of their 25 man roster.

go look at our prospects list....this is going in the wrong direction IMO.

http://www.soxprospects.com/

If you're going by rankings, that is entirely based on perceived talent and not race.  So I don't think that's a call to any sort of lack of racial diversity. 

Looking down the list when expanded to 60, I see multiple races represented.  I see quite a few latinos, a few asians, plenty of whites. 

Sorry, I don't see a lack of diversity there, either.

I'm sure the Red Sox care more about assembling a winning team than they do about filling a diversity quota. Usually those two go hand-in-hand....but to suggest that they need to keep a player simply to maintain diversity is pretty out there.

i agree that about putting the best team out there.....and Bay is a back step in that regard.....but i also don't like to see the shrinking in the diversity department - ESPECIALLY when you're losing in the talent department too...

[klg05]

Diversity? Can he hit and play LF well?


We have a Native American CF, FWIW.

these things matter to me. i like diversity in this day and age....not a huge thing, but something i think about none the less.......

Ellsbury - Native American
Lugo - Dominican
Ortiz - Dominican
Cora - Dominican
Coco - African American
Lowell - Puerto Rican
Matzusaka - Japanese
Okajima - Japanese
Delcarmen - Dominican
Colon Dominican
Lopez - Puerto Rican


Diversity? That's 44% of their 25 man roster.

go look at our prospects list....this is going in the wrong direction IMO.

http://www.soxprospects.com/

But the 44% of the current roster doesn't denote diversity?

yeah, there's diversity there.....but the team we watch night in and night out is not that diverse to me and seems to be heading the other direction......that's just how it looks to me.

i don't think it is some plan, but i still notice it....

Are you also this concerned about the lack of diversity on the Celtics?  The last thing we need there is more players like Brian Scalabrine.

[nickagneta]

Isn't this just about enough with the diversity thing. I thought this thread was about the Manny trade, not to mention the whole political implications that are starting to come out.

This convo is going in the wrong direction.

[Roy Hobbs]

Isn't this just about enough with the diversity thing. I thought this thread was about the Manny trade, not to mention the whole political implications that are starting to come out.

This convo is going in the wrong direction.

You beat me to it, Nick.  I was just about to post that.

This thread is going off-topic.  Enough with the "diversity" talk.  Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but at this point it's been beat to death.

[houlana]

very sad. cant believe they traded him. our whole season is waisted now.
other teams are trying to get better and we get rid of our best player, instead of getting a good shortstop.

will miss manny,

[nickagneta]

At first there was no report about who's paying Manny but I guess Gammons is reporting the Sox are paying his whole nut.

2 guys, Manny, and $7 million??

Steep price for addition by subtraction. Steep indeed. Bay better not have a slump or this town will fry him.

[hpantazo]

I don't think they had much of a choice, manny quit. At least they got something for him. How can you complain when you make 20 million a year on a winning team and the fans love you? What a jerk.

very sad. cant believe they traded him. our whole season is waisted now.
other teams are trying to get better and we get rid of our best player, instead of getting a good shortstop.

will miss manny,