Manny to the Dodgers?

[AHHH GiVE mE a bReaK]

it's tough to see the dodgers doing this for a half season rental unless they are getting Jed Lowrie or some other prospect.  

I'd like to see Kemp and Kershaw for Manny. We pick up the rest of Manny's contract (for this year). They work out a long term deal with him.

I'd like to see that to, but it will never happen. Kershaw is almost MLB ready and is one of the best young pitchers in the game. Kershaw is a top 5 minor league pitcher in terms of talent. Kemp has nice power potentail. Mostly likely he will put up similar RBI and a AVG to Mannys in his career. Kemp will hit for less power, but steal more bases.

IF we trade Manny there will be no one to protect Ortiz. If your remember Manny helped David become the hitter he is today by forcing pitchers to pitch to David. In result Davis saw more fastballs and better pitches to hit. With no one to protect David, his numbers will drop as well. I dont care who you put behind David on this team. no one will do the job manny has done.

[Redz]

No Manny = No Championships

He's a knucklehead, but he's invaluable.  His presence in the lineup is essential to this teams success - even if he's allegedly leaving the bat on his shoulder.  The Sox can't replace him so they won't trade him.  Manny just needs to whine some - as he does periodically.  If and when the Sox make the playoffs Manny will be readt to step it up again.

[Gemini]

No Manny = No Championships

He's a knucklehead, but he's invaluable.  His presence in the lineup is essential to this teams success - even if he's allegedly leaving the bat on his shoulder.  The Sox can't replace him so they won't trade him.  Manny just needs to whine some - as he does periodically.  If and when the Sox make the playoffs Manny will be readt to step it up again.

I like manny as much as the next guy but one thing that people are either to blind to see or just won't admit is that Manny has lost a step. like, Big time. He will for the second year in row hit right around(under)30hr's and be right around the 100 rbi mark and hit no higher than .300. The days of manny hitting .325 with 45HR's and 140 RBI are long gone. He is at this point in his carear very replaceable.

[Nerf DPOY]

No Manny = No Championships

He's a knucklehead, but he's invaluable.  His presence in the lineup is essential to this teams success - even if he's allegedly leaving the bat on his shoulder.  The Sox can't replace him so they won't trade him.  Manny just needs to whine some - as he does periodically.  If and when the Sox make the playoffs Manny will be readt to step it up again.

I like manny as much as the next guy but one thing that people are either to blind to see or just won't admit is that Manny has lost a step. like, Big time. He will for the second year in row hit right around(under)30hr's and be right around the 100 rbi mark and hit no higher than .300. The days of manny hitting .325 with 45HR's and 140 RBI are long gone. He is at this point in his carear very replaceable.

For this year, who though? Burrel's a possibility, but not necessarily available. Same goes for Holliday. Throw on top of that the cost, and I'd prefer to just stick with an angry Manny.

[Redz]

No Manny = No Championships

He's a knucklehead, but he's invaluable.  His presence in the lineup is essential to this teams success - even if he's allegedly leaving the bat on his shoulder.  The Sox can't replace him so they won't trade him.  Manny just needs to whine some - as he does periodically.  If and when the Sox make the playoffs Manny will be readt to step it up again.

I like manny as much as the next guy but one thing that people are either to blind to see or just won't admit is that Manny has lost a step. like, Big time. He will for the second year in row hit right around(under)30hr's and be right around the 100 rbi mark and hit no higher than .300. The days of manny hitting .325 with 45HR's and 140 RBI are long gone. He is at this point in his carear very replaceable.

Clearly. but look at the month Drew had moving into the 3 slot ahead of Manny.  Look at what he did in the playoffs last year.  He still changes the way a team approaches the Sox drastically.

[jdub1660]

I'd hate to see Manny go, but is his time here really up?

[Gemini]

The Boston Globe reports that the Red Sox did reach out to the Dodgers about Manny Ramirez, but talks didn't go anywhere.

The only way the Dodgers would take him if if Boston would accept Andruw Jones in return. Both the Mets and Phillies appear completely uninterested, so a Manny deal appears highly unlikely.

[Jon]

Typical Manny Ramirez situation and typical results.  Big controversy arises, Manny pouts, then many produces.  He had a great game last game and just knocked in two against the Angels. 

I don't see him going anywhere.  This is just another case of Groundhog Day.   

[The4Time2Doctor0]

wheres happy, stoned manny taking a toke in the green monster? manny needs some medication and we and manny in a red sox uniform. work it out.

[Nerf DPOY]

The Boston Globe reports that the Red Sox did reach out to the Dodgers about Manny Ramirez, but talks didn't go anywhere.

The only way the Dodgers would take him if if Boston would accept Andruw Jones in return. Both the Mets and Phillies appear completely uninterested, so a Manny deal appears highly unlikely.

Here's where I become skeptical of the front office. I really have a hard time swallowing the "uninterest" being reported. Milton Bradley keeps finding teams willing to take him on. Crazy Carl Everett and Shea Hillenbrand kept finding work up until recently. It's not like Manny's facing an impending jail sentence, or is a wife beater. He's an elite bat who also happens to be a flake.

So the Dodgers are happy with Juan Pierre? No, I call BS.

[xmuscularghandix]

No Manny = No Championships

[TradeProposalDude]

Unless the market changes drastically over the next 2 or 3 days, Manny definitely won't be going anywhere.


This guy throws a hissy fit over a "Manny being Manny" moment every couple years, leading to a plethora of trade rumors that die in the wind after Manny expresses his love for the Red Sox organization and regret for ever insinuating that he was at any point ever dissatisfied with his stay in Boston.

Seriously, this is how it rolls every time. This instance should be no different. However, one should consider that the Sox may be more inclined to move Ramirez because there isn't too much money to be liable for paying. The recipient may even pay for the remainder of Manny's contract... not some crap like 40% while the Sox get screwed over having to pay 60%.

It's just one year and a couple team options that Manny is issuing his team, whomever he may play for, to decline those options when the season is finalized.

[Chris]

The Boston Globe reports that the Red Sox did reach out to the Dodgers about Manny Ramirez, but talks didn't go anywhere.

The only way the Dodgers would take him if if Boston would accept Andruw Jones in return. Both the Mets and Phillies appear completely uninterested, so a Manny deal appears highly unlikely.

Here's where I become skeptical of the front office. I really have a hard time swallowing the "uninterest" being reported. Milton Bradley keeps finding teams willing to take him on. Crazy Carl Everett and Shea Hillenbrand kept finding work up until recently. It's not like Manny's facing an impending jail sentence, or is a wife beater. He's an elite bat who also happens to be a flake.

So the Dodgers are happy with Juan Pierre? No, I call BS.

Well, I think it is more that there is no interest at the price the sox are asking for.  For it to be worth it for the sox to trade him, they would need to get a lot back for him.  Personally, I think other teams are making a mistake for not making some strong offers for a guy like Ramirez.  It's kind of similar to Ron Artest being available for a rental before a championship run.  Even though there is some inherent risk with taking on a guy like that, he is the type of player that could turn a borderline team into a legit contender, so it would be hard not to at least kick the tires.

[jimmyt]

you guys can run numbers back and forth all night long and predict the future of kemp or whoever else. But when it all comes down to it, Manny is a winner. He has been an integral part of two world series championships. If we trade Manny now, we take a step back in trying to win the World Series this year.

Listen, if we are the Baltimore Orioles and arent in the playoff hunt, I'd consider the deal, but how can you trade your best hitter in the midst of a playoff run?!

He hasent demanded a trade, and he wont. I have yet to hear a player come out and say Manny is not good for the team. It's all the media and some upper management. I believe Manny to a point when he says that people are making him out to be the bad guy

Everyone wonders why he never talks.. its for reasons like this. Everything he does is magnified by ten, unrightfully so. The guy has been consistently great for us since we signed him.. now all of a sudden hes not trying? Come on.

We wont get anyone near as good for him this year in a trade. If the Sox want to not pick up his option or resign him at the end of the year then fine. It's unfortuane, but fine... but they would be foolish to trade him now.

[Steve Weinman]

Haven't gotten a chance to read through the whole thread yet, but figured I'd break in with a quick two cents as resident Dodger fan:

As I've been saying to some friends for the last few days, if I'm Dodgers GM Ned Colletti, tell me what it takes to get this guy in Dodger blue, and then consider said package signed, sealed and delivered.  Yes, the ticket allotment shove issue showed a side of him that worries me more than his general nature as a goofball, but for the most part, his legacy remains as 'goofball' rather than jerk.  It's also as probably one of the three defining right-handed hitters of this generation (along with Rodriguez and Pujols).  Count me in for whatever it takes to get this guy.

-sw