Potential Midseason Buyouts

[JBcat]

I have compiled a list of potential midseason (or earlier for that matter) buyouts of players who are in the last year of their contracts and their respective teams probably don't want them back.   Could any of these guys be our midseason Cassell this year???


Stromile Swift
Stephon Marbury
Malik Rose
Drew Gooden (maybe too young and too talented to be dumped for nothing
Damon Jones
Wally Z
Joe Smith
Rasho Nestorvic
Desmon Mason
Malik Allen
Matt Carroll
Smush Parker
Jason Kidd
Jerry Stackhouse
Eddie Jones
Bobby Jackson
Steve Francis
Allen Iverson
Chucky Atkins
Jason Collins
Raef Lafrentz
Adrian Griffin
Donyell Marshall
Brevin Night
Grant Hill
Mikki Moore

My guess is only a handful of these players will be this year's Ratliff or Cassell that is bought out midseason.  A few names might surprise you like Kidd, Iverson, and even Hill.   However their respective teams could easily be out of the playoff picture after the midseason trading deadline.  Nash is 34 and if his play starts to decline the Suns are in trouble.  The Nuggets just lost Camby and the Mavs don't exactly strike any fear in me.   If they can't move their contracts in a trade (not a given they will be able to) and their teams are going nowhere by midseason I can't imagine those teams would want these players back anyway next offseason.  Going back over the list the Cavs are a Lebron ankle sprain away from having a disaster season and it might be time to let those  3 older players go if they don't plan on re-signing them anyway.  Nobody else really wows me but say if one of our bigs gets hurt LaFrentz could help.  Some other older vets like Marbury, ,Swift, Jones, Griffin, Night, Jackson, Collins, and Atkins might be able to fill a role. 

[Who]

There's only two names that pop out on that list - Steph and Francis.

I don't have any expectations of the others to being bought out.

[JBcat]

There's only two names that pop out on that list - Steph and Francis.

I don't have any expectations of the others to being bought out.

You might be right but stranger things have happened like Camby being traded for a second round pick.   

[JBcat]

I actually see Raef as a very strong possibility of being boughtout.  Why would Portland want to keep him on board  when they are going with the youth movement and they probably don't want to take back any longer contracts in a trade. 

[BballTim]

There's only two names that pop out on that list - Steph and Francis.

I don't have any expectations of the others to being bought out.

  I thought Joe Smith looked pretty good against us in the playoffs. I'd take him if he were available.

[jdub1660]

Stromile Swift is too talented for NJ to waste
Stephon Marbury will be bought out
Malik Rose will be traded or bought out
Drew Gooden is the offense off the bench. Too talented to be bought out
Damon Jones is a throw up. He's whined every year about playing time.
Wally Z will be traded before he'll be bought out. He's not great but he's better than nothing
Joe Smith was great. He made nearly every shot he took. He's a vet that stays.
Rasho Nestorvic was a requirement in the Oneal/Ford trade for him to fill up the C position.
Desmon Mason might get traded..again.
Malik Allen just signed a contract with the Bucks, so he's staying.
Matt Carroll. Jordan won't admit his mistake of wasting money on this guy. He's staying
Smush Parker might have already been bought out, otherwise he'll be bought out once he gets put behind bars
Jason Kidd won't ever be bought out due to Cuban giving up half to bus to get him.
Jerry Stackhouse is too good of an instant offense for his age to be given away.
Eddie Jones is a free agent
Bobby Jackson is part of Houston's continued hopes of making it out of round 1. He's part of the bench offense.
Steve Francis is planning on reviving his career this year where he left off as the Franchise.
Allen Iverson would have to demand a buyout first, which wouldn't happen. He still has great trade value.
Chucky Atkins is the starting PG for Denver.
Jason Collins is a Center, or position filler.
Raef Lafrentz is a possibility. I don't see him in Portlands plans of going forward with talented kids
Adrian Griffin is great locker room leader, and could be bought out.
Donyell Marshall might get traded again, but not bought out. He was the only benefit in last years trade minus him being traded injured.
Brevin Night will be kept only if Livingston doesnt' return.
Grant Hill will continue to be part of an aging squad
Mikki Moore is staying for sure thanks to Brad Millers addiction to getting high.

This year just doesn't seem to be the year for us to get anyone off of a buyout. There's enough free agent talent out there to fill our voids. First and for most, Ainge needs to figure out a deal for House and Allen, and get an answer NOW for Cassell and PJ. It's not fair for Boston to have to wait around to see if a bench player wants to play or not. Let the young guys play and grow and build around that. DMiles, Finley, etc. There's talent now to sign rather than let them go to teams that will be eliminated in round 1. Small trades should also be thought about to find players if free agents don't fit.

[timepiece33]

Potential Buyouts

Stephon Marbury
Antoine Walker
Raef LaFrentz
Radoslav Nesterovic
Jason Collins
Eric Snow

That isn't exactly an impressive list there guys.

[LB3533]

Antoine Walker is the best out of the bunch.

[xmuscularghandix]

Antoine Walker is the best out of the bunch.

[The Walker Wiggle]

I agree with the two prior posters; Antoine Walker is the most desirable player of those with a reasonable chance of being bought out. But frankly, the OP's list - which doesn't even include Walker?? - is all over the place, and includes starters on championship contenders...

The list could safely be narrowed down to Stephon Marbury, Malik Rose and Steve Francis; possibly LaFrentz, though such a drastic measure is usually proceeded by plenty of player grousing, and I've heard nothing from him thus far.
 

[cordobes]

The OP list is very optimistic, indeed.

I agree with TWW: Marbury, Francis and Rose are the more realistic expectations. LaFrentz not so much, but who knows? Anyway, unless NY or Portland need a roster spot available because of a trade, I can't see them buying out 2 players. Walker, maybe, but only if Memphis doesn't manage to trade him until the deadline. Same with Buckner, btw. 

[LB3533]

Marbury might still be the "best player" in that lot, but Antoine is the "best fit" for us and for him too.

1. Walker's played for the Celtics before

2. Walker's played with Pierce before

3. Walker's played for Doc before

4. Walker's played with Shaq so he would know how to throw entry passes to KG.

5. If Walker becomes a "locker room problem" (he never has in his career)...we just sit him in his fine suits/street clothes.

- Marbury has been known to be a locker room problem and he's had run ins with his head coaches. (Well, it is Isiah afterall....)

- Marbury, if unmotivated and unleased, his evilness might spread to Rondo and we can't have that

- Our team's, our franchise's, winning attitude and the Celtic Pride mystic can be threatened with Marbury's selfish ways. This is the guy who turned down playing with KG for more money....a la Tyronne Lue.

- Marbury is the same player who did not make it work in his home town....TWICE.

- I love what Marbury is doing with his shoe line, but his attitude on and off the court is less than desirable.

- If this was the same Marbury who was motivated like he was with a young, up and coming Suns team that stole a playoff game against the Spurs a few years ago...I'd root for the guy.

- If this was the same Marbury who showed his true patriotic colors when he played lights out for the USA Team a few years ago...I'd root for the guy

- It's too bad New York and Isiah hasn't mixed well with Marbury's head or the other way around...whatever....

*Let's get Toine back on the cheap. There's virtually no risk and the rewards are bonus...like "icing on the cake".

[bucknersrevenge]

I have compiled a list of potential midseason (or earlier for that matter) buyouts of players who are in the last year of their contracts and their respective teams probably don't want them back.   Could any of these guys be our midseason Cassell this year???


Stromile Swift
Stephon Marbury
Malik Rose
Drew Gooden (maybe too young and too talented to be dumped for nothing
Damon Jones
Wally Z
Joe Smith
Rasho Nestorvic
Desmon Mason
Malik Allen
Matt Carroll
Smush Parker
Jason Kidd
Jerry Stackhouse
Eddie Jones
Bobby Jackson
Steve Francis
Allen Iverson
Chucky Atkins
Jason Collins
Raef Lafrentz
Adrian Griffin
Donyell Marshall
Brevin Night
Grant Hill
Mikki Moore

My guess is only a handful of these players will be this year's Ratliff or Cassell that is bought out midseason.  A few names might surprise you like Kidd, Iverson, and even Hill.   However their respective teams could easily be out of the playoff picture after the midseason trading deadline.  Nash is 34 and if his play starts to decline the Suns are in trouble.  The Nuggets just lost Camby and the Mavs don't exactly strike any fear in me.   If they can't move their contracts in a trade (not a given they will be able to) and their teams are going nowhere by midseason I can't imagine those teams would want these players back anyway next offseason.  Going back over the list the Cavs are a Lebron ankle sprain away from having a disaster season and it might be time to let those  3 older players go if they don't plan on re-signing them anyway.  Nobody else really wows me but say if one of our bigs gets hurt LaFrentz could help.  Some other older vets like Marbury, ,Swift, Jones, Griffin, Night, Jackson, Collins, and Atkins might be able to fill a role. 

that question alone probably scares me more than anybody on this list. god we can only hope we dont bring in someone who plays as bad as sam did for us last year.

[JBcat]

Your probably right.  I would rather have our whole roster set sooner rather than later instead of going into the season like last year with 13 guys when we were able to sign PJ and Sam.  Those last couple spots are now filled with project like players in O'Bryant, Walker, and Giddens so we really don't have quite the roster flexibility we had last year.   The free agents available now are better overall than potential midseason buyouts which isn't saying much.  I read this morning that House and Tony Allen might be looking for 3 year contracts.   I'm not sure Danny would offer them contracts that long.   

[bucknersrevenge]

i think alonzo is absolutely an option dannys gonna keep a spot open for. mourning has turned danny down every year in favor of resigning with th heat. but if were talking about just HALF a season...for a chance to wing a ring...he might change his mind just this once.