The Whole "Let's trade Scals" thing

[paintitgreen]

this is why I continue to shake my head at the thought that Scal has a HUGE contract - $3M a year is nothing

Well, Jeff, to be honest, considering the commonly used rationale that Posey would actually be costing us double, so it's not worth it to resign him, Scal's contract is actually $6M a year. If people are going to use it to justify getting rid of Posey, I am more than happy to use it to justify the belief that Scal is costing us tons of money and opportunities, even if he does give one hell of a post-Finals press conference.

But that's just residual bitterness. You're absolutely right, for trade purposes, it's not that large of a contract. Further, any trade idea implying Scal has any sort of value is a mockery. His only trade value is if Powe or Davis would be enough to get us a player who will fill a real need that develops during the season (backup center, backup PG, etc.), and Scal is needed to match salaries. But that's highly unlikely, since it means us trying to match up with a guy making $3-5 million (prob. the rough 120% range). So it's unlikely Scal has any actual trade value.

[Beat LA]

On the contrary, Scal may actually have value.  It has been well-documented that the Knicks will attempt to sign Lebron James after the 2009-2010 season, and so cap space will be critical to their efforts.  While most of their BIG contracts will come off the books after the end of next season, [the names are below from espn] an additional $3,413,793 million could certainly help their financial situation.  My idea involves Marbury.  As we all know, some kind of buyout appears imminent, and while I am not sure about him, [to say the least] there could be a way in which both sides could benefit.  This would be unconventional, but what if New York could buy out all but $3-4 million dollars of Stephon's deal, enabling us to trade Scal for him.  The $3-4 million dollars would come off Boston's books after the end of next season, while the Knicks will save money down the road.  Sounds like a win-win to me.  Any thoughts?

RESTRICTED
David Lee
Nate Robinson

UNRESTRICTED
Jamal Crawford (ETO)
Eddy Curry (ETO)
Jerome James (P)
Stephon Marbury
Quentin Richardson (ETO)
Malik Rose

[spelz]

yes the reality is that no one wants scal for the player. the only reason people want him is for his expiring contract or to match contracts in a trade.

Don't forget Scal's driving abilities - I mean as a designated driver to drive other players to the hospital after they tear their knee ligaments.

[kozlodoev]

At this point, Scalabrine has more value to our team than whatever we can get for him, for whatever it's worth. Sorry, folks. Moving along, now.

[Vermont Green]

On the contrary, Scal may actually have value.  It has been well-documented that the Knicks will attempt to sign Lebron James after the 2009-2010 season, and so cap space will be critical to their efforts.  While most of their BIG contracts will come off the books after the end of next season, [the names are below from espn] an additional $3,413,793 million could certainly help their financial situation.  My idea involves Marbury.  As we all know, some kind of buyout appears imminent, and while I am not sure about him, [to say the least] there could be a way in which both sides could benefit.  This would be unconventional, but what if New York could buy out all but $3-4 million dollars of Stephon's deal, enabling us to trade Scal for him.  The $3-4 million dollars would come off Boston's books after the end of next season, while the Knicks will save money down the road.  Sounds like a win-win to me.  Any thoughts?

RESTRICTED
David Lee
Nate Robinson

UNRESTRICTED
Jamal Crawford (ETO)
Eddy Curry (ETO)
Jerome James (P)
Stephon Marbury
Quentin Richardson (ETO)
Malik Rose

This is an interesting idea but still is based on the premise that NYK would rather pay the 3.5 and have Scal on the team or just buy out Marbury stright our and not take back Scal to fill a roster spot for 2 years.  I honestly believe that NY would rather have nothing than have Scal.  They would be better off to bring in FA rookies or other players like Brandon Wallace than to have Scal filling up a roster spot.

It is definitely going to take something crazy like this to trade Scal.  I think that for better or for worse, we are stuck with Scal.  He is nothing more than a body to have to practice against and an occasional fill in on the roster.

[Brendan]

On the contrary, Scal may actually have value.  It has been well-documented that the Knicks will attempt to sign Lebron James after the 2009-2010 season, and so cap space will be critical to their efforts.  While most of their BIG contracts will come off the books after the end of next season, [the names are below from espn] an additional $3,413,793 million could certainly help their financial situation.  My idea involves Marbury.  As we all know, some kind of buyout appears imminent, and while I am not sure about him, [to say the least] there could be a way in which both sides could benefit.  This would be unconventional, but what if New York could buy out all but $3-4 million dollars of Stephon's deal, enabling us to trade Scal for him.  The $3-4 million dollars would come off Boston's books after the end of next season, while the Knicks will save money down the road.  Sounds like a win-win to me.  Any thoughts?

RESTRICTED
David Lee
Nate Robinson

UNRESTRICTED
Jamal Crawford (ETO)
Eddy Curry (ETO)
Jerome James (P)
Stephon Marbury
Quentin Richardson (ETO)
Malik Rose

This is an interesting idea but still is based on the premise that NYK would rather pay the 3.5 and have Scal on the team or just buy out Marbury stright our and not take back Scal to fill a roster spot for 2 years.  I honestly believe that NY would rather have nothing than have Scal.  They would be better off to bring in FA rookies or other players like Brandon Wallace than to have Scal filling up a roster spot.

It is definitely going to take something crazy like this to trade Scal.  I think that for better or for worse, we are stuck with Scal.  He is nothing more than a body to have to practice against and an occasional fill in on the roster.

Can't do that it's against the CBA. When a guy takes a buyout, he becomes a FA and then the buyout amount is spread across the number of years left on his cab. So if I have 4 years left at $15 million and take a $8 million buyout, then NY has to count $2 million a year for me against their cap. (NY is the only team dumb enough to sign me for $15 million over four years

But once a guy is bought out - then the contract is fixed and CANNOT be moved. So you are stuck with it until it expires. Example: Steve Francis.

[cordobes]

There are like 132 contracts in the league worse than Scal's. It ends in 2010, it's $6M for 2 years and he's a hard-working, good character guy who can easily crack the rotation of bad teams playing limited minutes in his very specific role. The problem is that we cant't trade him straight up for anyone with more or equal value (from the Cs perspective). You'd need to include Powe or draft picks or the rookies+Pruitt if anyone likes them or money or all these things together to get someone more valuable than Scal is. Cash considerations could play a big role, considering that we are paying luxury tax and that are teams with players under contract they don't need and under the luxury tax threshold.

[Beat LA]

Sorry about the trade idea.  I am not familar with the terms of the CBA.  Thanks for correcting me.

[zerophase]

i posted this once and i'm not afraid to post it again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGBWqzwpktM
all-star move.

[Redz]

i posted this once and i'm not afraid to post it again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGBWqzwpktM
all-star move.

http://www.sportsline.com/nba/dunk-o-meter/yearly?&print_rows=9999

That dunk tied him for 309th place for last seasons Dunk-o-meter

[D Dub]

At this point, Scalabrine has more value to our team than whatever we can get for him, for whatever it's worth. Sorry, folks. Moving along, now.

This is correct.  With Posey gone, it will be TA and Scal sharing the backup 3 minutes.  No more street clothes for Scal this year.

[cordobes]

i posted this once and i'm not afraid to post it again:

all-star move.

All-Star, indeed. Even the refs get confused and didn't call the travel.

[Soy Reek]

Eddie House's kid has more trade value than Scal.

[LarBrd33]

i posted this once and i'm not afraid to post it again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGBWqzwpktM
all-star move.

http://www.sportsline.com/nba/dunk-o-meter/yearly?&print_rows=9999

That dunk tied him for 309th place for last seasons Dunk-o-meter

Nice... that's right up there with Gerald Green.