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Re: Trade to lengthen our window of opportunity
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2008, 04:35:46 PM »

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Here's how i know this is a bogus trade that hasn't been checked.....

News flash Hobbs: There is no more team in Seattle, they moved to Oklahoma City last month.




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Re: Trade to lengthen our window of opportunity
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2008, 04:36:52 PM »

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Re: Trade to lengthen our window of opportunity
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2008, 04:41:06 PM »

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News flash Hobbs: There is no more team in Seattle, they moved to Oklahoma City last month.

I'm in denial (and clearly, living in the past).

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Re: Trade to lengthen our window of opportunity
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2008, 04:43:43 PM »

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Awesome, RH.  Here's hoping the satire helps put to rest, say, the growing Bring Back Bassy! movement  ;D ;)

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Re: Trade to lengthen our window of opportunity
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2008, 04:45:12 PM »

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Uhhhh... no.   You're forgetting about the upside of Trent Plaistead.   I think it's a pretty solid trade, really.  
I know I have since edited my previous post. I want no parts of Plaisted! Give me 2 Geralds before I touch him!
I think you're severely underrating Plaisted.  He's a legit 6-10... was 3 rebounds short of averaging a double double in College and provides this team with much needed size.  He reminds me of a young Greg Foster and can run a 4.4 in the 40 yard dash   If this trade went through, Plaisted would be the key component that slides under the radar at first sight... like Jiri Welsch in the original Walker trade.  

Re: Trade to lengthen our window of opportunity
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2008, 04:52:25 PM »

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We need to wait a couple of months to pull this one off (due to restrictions on players being re-traded) but I think the parameters are there for this one to work out:

Boston trades: Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett, Glen Davis, James Posey, Eddie House, Scot Pollard
Boston receives: Al Jefferson, Ryan Gomes (S&T), Sebastian Telfair (S&T), Jeff Green, Wally Sczerbiak, Delonte West (S&T), Yi Jianlian,  Trent Plaistead

Cleveland trades: Wally Sczerbiak, Delonte West
Cleveland receives: Ray Allen

Minnesota trades: Al Jefferson, Ryan Gomes, Sebastian Telfair
Minnesota receives: Kevin Garnett

Seattle trades: Jeff Green, Trent Plaistead
Seattle receives:  BBD, James Posey (S&T)

New Jersey trades:  Yi Jianlian
New Jersey receives:  Eddie House (S&T), Scot Pollard (S&T)

==================================

Why for Boston: We get a group of young players to supplement the current potential on our roster, and get a true post player in Big Al.  KG is at his peak trade value, coming off a championship; this gives us the opportunity to cash him in for some legitimate first-tier young talent. We trade Ray Allen for an expiring contract, which allows us to reload at the trade deadline.

This trade opens our window of opportunity by several years, setting us up long into the future.  It also allows us to play small ball on a full-time basis, by shifting Big Al over to center and playing Gomes at PF.

C: Perk / O'Bryant / Plaistead
PF: Big Al / Jianlian / Powe
SF: Pierce / Gomes / B. Walker
SG: J. Green / Wally / Giddens
PG: Rondo / Delonte / Telfair / Pruitt

You can't go wrong with that roster.  The only downside is that we have to cut one player to get down to the maximum roster size of 15.

(Yes, folks, the above was tongue-in-cheek.)

um... your basically telling the wolves the reverse the garnett trade of '07, except many years later when kg isn't as talented, and al is even better than he was before... and minnie would do this trade why??

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Re: Trade to lengthen our window of opportunity
« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2008, 04:57:21 PM »

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We need to wait a couple of months to pull this one off (due to restrictions on players being re-traded) but I think the parameters are there for this one to work out:

Boston trades: Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett, Glen Davis, James Posey, Eddie House, Scot Pollard
Boston receives: Al Jefferson, Ryan Gomes (S&T), Sebastian Telfair (S&T), Jeff Green, Wally Sczerbiak, Delonte West (S&T), Yi Jianlian,  Trent Plaistead

Cleveland trades: Wally Sczerbiak, Delonte West
Cleveland receives: Ray Allen

Minnesota trades: Al Jefferson, Ryan Gomes, Sebastian Telfair
Minnesota receives: Kevin Garnett

Seattle trades: Jeff Green, Trent Plaistead
Seattle receives:  BBD, James Posey (S&T)

New Jersey trades:  Yi Jianlian
New Jersey receives:  Eddie House (S&T), Scot Pollard (S&T)

==================================

Why for Boston: We get a group of young players to supplement the current potential on our roster, and get a true post player in Big Al.  KG is at his peak trade value, coming off a championship; this gives us the opportunity to cash him in for some legitimate first-tier young talent. We trade Ray Allen for an expiring contract, which allows us to reload at the trade deadline.

This trade opens our window of opportunity by several years, setting us up long into the future.  It also allows us to play small ball on a full-time basis, by shifting Big Al over to center and playing Gomes at PF.

C: Perk / O'Bryant / Plaistead
PF: Big Al / Jianlian / Powe
SF: Pierce / Gomes / B. Walker
SG: J. Green / Wally / Giddens
PG: Rondo / Delonte / Telfair / Pruitt

You can't go wrong with that roster.  The only downside is that we have to cut one player to get down to the maximum roster size of 15.

(Yes, folks, the above was tongue-in-cheek.)

um... your basically telling the wolves the reverse the garnett trade of '07, except many years later when kg isn't as talented, and al is even better than he was before... and minnie would do this trade why??

The reason Minni does it is because they have a young core and need some vet leadership.  What better vet leader for that young squad that Kevin Garnett?  It's a pretty logical move from their standpoint.   They would be bringing in an excellent mentor to lead that young team until one of the young guys like Kevin Love takes over.   

Re: Trade to lengthen our window of opportunity
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2008, 05:04:57 PM »

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We need to wait a couple of months to pull this one off (due to restrictions on players being re-traded) but I think the parameters are there for this one to work out:

Boston trades: Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett, Glen Davis, James Posey, Eddie House, Scot Pollard
Boston receives: Al Jefferson, Ryan Gomes (S&T), Sebastian Telfair (S&T), Jeff Green, Wally Sczerbiak, Delonte West (S&T), Yi Jianlian,  Trent Plaistead

Cleveland trades: Wally Sczerbiak, Delonte West
Cleveland receives: Ray Allen

Minnesota trades: Al Jefferson, Ryan Gomes, Sebastian Telfair
Minnesota receives: Kevin Garnett

Seattle trades: Jeff Green, Trent Plaistead
Seattle receives:  BBD, James Posey (S&T)

New Jersey trades:  Yi Jianlian
New Jersey receives:  Eddie House (S&T), Scot Pollard (S&T)

==================================

Why for Boston: We get a group of young players to supplement the current potential on our roster, and get a true post player in Big Al.  KG is at his peak trade value, coming off a championship; this gives us the opportunity to cash him in for some legitimate first-tier young talent. We trade Ray Allen for an expiring contract, which allows us to reload at the trade deadline.

This trade opens our window of opportunity by several years, setting us up long into the future.  It also allows us to play small ball on a full-time basis, by shifting Big Al over to center and playing Gomes at PF.

C: Perk / O'Bryant / Plaistead
PF: Big Al / Jianlian / Powe
SF: Pierce / Gomes / B. Walker
SG: J. Green / Wally / Giddens
PG: Rondo / Delonte / Telfair / Pruitt

You can't go wrong with that roster.  The only downside is that we have to cut one player to get down to the maximum roster size of 15.

(Yes, folks, the above was tongue-in-cheek.)

um... your basically telling the wolves the reverse the garnett trade of '07, except many years later when kg isn't as talented, and al is even better than he was before... and minnie would do this trade why??

The reason Minni does it is because they have a young core and need some vet leadership.  What better vet leader for that young squad that Kevin Garnett?  It's a pretty logical move from their standpoint.   They would be bringing in an excellent mentor to lead that young team until one of the young guys like Kevin Love takes over.   

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Re: Trade to lengthen our window of opportunity
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2008, 05:13:58 PM »

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Re: Trade to lengthen our window of opportunity
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2008, 05:50:15 PM »

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Roy - next time leave out the (tounge in cheek) explanation.
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Re: Trade to lengthen our window of opportunity
« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2008, 05:52:15 PM »

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The trade is a no-brainer, no other way to get younger and compete in the future, plus after a championship win, we have some major chips to deal. It might also be a good idea when we get Gerald back to trade him for T-Mac, since they are the same player, then as soon as the restriction is over... trade T-Mac back for Gerald since they are the same player but Gerald is younger.

Only problem I see is who is going to helm this squad of future hall of famers? Doc may have championship pedigree, but does he have the ability to coach a young team and get the most out of his players, and in the process separate the real up-an-comers from the busts, at the very least so they could later be traded for star veterans? I'm not so sure, my suggestion, get rid of Doc, we need someone that has a lot of experience coaching young players, maybe even college players. Best guy I see for the job, Rick Pitino, if we can snag him away from the college scene, I think he's a guy whose coaching style, and possibly general managing style, could really work in the NBA.


Re: Trade to lengthen our window of opportunity
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2008, 05:58:52 PM »

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The trade is a no-brainer, no other way to get younger and compete in the future, plus after a championship win, we have some major chips to deal. It might also be a good idea when we get Gerald back to trade him for T-Mac, since they are the same player, then as soon as the restriction is over... trade T-Mac back for Gerald since they are the same player but Gerald is younger.

Only problem I see is who is going to helm this squad of future hall of famers? Doc may have championship pedigree, but does he have the ability to coach a young team and get the most out of his players, and in the process separate the real up-an-comers from the busts, at the very least so they could later be traded for star veterans? I'm not so sure, my suggestion, get rid of Doc, we need someone that has a lot of experience coaching young players, maybe even college players. Best guy I see for the job, Rick Pitino, if we can snag him away from the college scene, I think he's a guy whose coaching style, and possibly general managing style, could really work in the NBA.



That could work.  He's a master motivator.  But really the guy I think I'd like to see the Celtics hire is the GM on Memphis.  He has a pretty good track record as a scout, but just happens to be part of that whole "cost cutting" scene over there.   If we could get that guy over to Boston with an owner willing to spend money I bet he could come up with some pretty clever moves.

Re: Trade to lengthen our window of opportunity
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2008, 06:00:38 PM »

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Roy - next time leave out the (tounge in cheek) explanation.

I didn't seem to make much of a difference, since we've had multiple members tell me what an idiot I am already. ;)

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Re: Trade to lengthen our window of opportunity
« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2008, 06:07:55 PM »

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Sadly, the Commissioner rejected my previous trade proposal, as he indicated that we couldn't trade for both Jeff Green and Yi Jianlian (just too much young potential, I guess).  So, the updated version:

Quote
Boston trades: Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett, Glen Davis, James Posey, Eddie House, Scot Pollard
Boston receives: Al Jefferson, Ryan Gomes (S&T), Sebastian Telfair (S&T), Jeff Green, Wally Sczerbiak, Delonte West (S&T), Gerald Green,  Trent Plaistead

Cleveland trades: Wally Sczerbiak, Delonte West
Cleveland receives: Ray Allen, Eddie House (S&T)

Minnesota trades: Al Jefferson, Ryan Gomes, Sebastian Telfair
Minnesota receives: Kevin Garnett

Oklahoma City trades: Jeff Green, Trent Plaistead
Oklahoma City receives:  BBD, James Posey (S&T)

Dallas trades:  Gerald Green
Dallas receives:  Scot Pollard (S&T)

==================================

C: Perk / O'Bryant / Plaistead
PF: Big Al / Gomes / Powe
SF: Pierce / G. Green / B. Walker
SG: J. Green / Wally / Giddens
PG: Rondo / Delonte / Telfair / Pruitt

There.  I feel better about having G-money on this roster.  Mad hoppage!

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Re: Trade to lengthen our window of opportunity
« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2008, 06:27:22 PM »

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The trade is a no-brainer, no other way to get younger and compete in the future, plus after a championship win, we have some major chips to deal. It might also be a good idea when we get Gerald back to trade him for T-Mac, since they are the same player, then as soon as the restriction is over... trade T-Mac back for Gerald since they are the same player but Gerald is younger.

Only problem I see is who is going to helm this squad of future hall of famers? Doc may have championship pedigree, but does he have the ability to coach a young team and get the most out of his players, and in the process separate the real up-an-comers from the busts, at the very least so they could later be traded for star veterans? I'm not so sure, my suggestion, get rid of Doc, we need someone that has a lot of experience coaching young players, maybe even college players. Best guy I see for the job, Rick Pitino, if we can snag him away from the college scene, I think he's a guy whose coaching style, and possibly general managing style, could really work in the NBA.



What an excellent addendum.  TP, Celtic.

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Sadly, the Commissioner rejected my previous trade proposal, as he indicated that we couldn't trade for both Jeff Green and Yi Jianlian (just too much young potential, I guess).  So, the updated version:

Quote
Boston trades: Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett, Glen Davis, James Posey, Eddie House, Scot Pollard
Boston receives: Al Jefferson, Ryan Gomes (S&T), Sebastian Telfair (S&T), Jeff Green, Wally Sczerbiak, Delonte West (S&T), Gerald Green,  Trent Plaistead

Cleveland trades: Wally Sczerbiak, Delonte West
Cleveland receives: Ray Allen, Eddie House (S&T)

Minnesota trades: Al Jefferson, Ryan Gomes, Sebastian Telfair
Minnesota receives: Kevin Garnett

Oklahoma City trades: Jeff Green, Trent Plaistead
Oklahoma City receives:  BBD, James Posey (S&T)

Dallas trades:  Gerald Green
Dallas receives:  Scot Pollard (S&T)

==================================

C: Perk / O'Bryant / Plaistead
PF: Big Al / Gomes / Powe
SF: Pierce / G. Green / B. Walker
SG: J. Green / Wally / Giddens
PG: Rondo / Delonte / Telfair / Pruitt

There.  I feel better about having G-money on this roster.  Mad hoppage!

Mad hoppage, RH...really?   ;D

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