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Re: Body Building Questions
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2008, 03:21:14 PM »

Offline milloy03

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It would be helpful if you guys posted some pics of yourselves and your achievements. I myself am lean and worked out, but I have no mass, which I am trying to gain now. I'm 6'2.5" barefoot and my weight is 155 lbs (70 kg), and my goal is to gain 10 lbs (5kg) while I'm working out. I do pretty hard workouts, but also get enough rest.

Wait a second here...

You are 6' 3 and weigh 155?

Yeah, that was my immediate reaction.

Everyone has given some good advice. If you really want to put on a lot of weight (think you said 20 lbs), like someone said, the best way is to do squats/dead lifts etc. It builds your core and when that is set everything else takes care of itself. Squats/dead lifts are a priority. If you are serious about it you shouldnt have a problem reaching your goal, but understand its not going to happen overnight. You have to be committed to doing this every week. Dont fall into the eh, ill make it up tm, i dont have to go today. 

Re: Body Building Questions
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2008, 04:45:53 PM »

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Some advice from a 57 year old here. 5'10", 180, I'm not a workout fanatic by any means, just a recumbent bike, pushups, situps, and light weights.
 First of all, 95% of the male population would kill to be 6'2" and 155, because it's so [dang] easy to put the weight on.
I would suggest being VERY wary of the overpriced and overhyped supplements that are being pushed.
Find a good common-sense nutrition book somewhere that isn't about selling you pills and powders.
As skinny as you are, probably any weight training will make a visible difference.
Like others have said, concentrate on the "core" and it's a piece of cake to build up arms, legs, etc.
One more thing- when you're doing aerobic exercise, don't let yourself get dehydrated. Everyone says it, but it's worth repeating.
Good luck, and don't start off so hard that you injure yourself.

Re: Body Building Questions
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2008, 05:16:26 PM »

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im 6-6.5 barefoot and I weighed 190 coming out of hs.  i tried everything to gain weight, but it really just took time.  I gained about 10 pounds a year since then until I got up to around 285.

I started lifting and eating right in january and i was down to 261 this morning.  the diets mentioned above are very similar to what i am doing now, the body for life diet.  google it.  it is eating 6 small meals a day and drinking a lot of water.  it is a high protein diet.

since i am trying to lose weight (I just turned 30) and you are trying to gain, the difference is the calories.  body for life says eat fist size portions, where i would suggest you eat a lot more.

you can get a product like muscle milk or some other protein shake to really add on the calories if you are trying to add weight. 

I work out 3 times a day for around 50 minutes to an hour.  bench, squat, rows, bent over rows, hammer curls, shoulder press, a lot of situps and crunches. dumbell row, dumbell incline.  things like that. 

Re: Body Building Questions
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2008, 05:21:06 PM »

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It may seem like an anathema to suggest cardo workouts to go along with your strength training. However, cardio helps strengthen your bones, tendons, et cet. Your body is really a marvelous machine that has been genetically engineered by thousands of generations.

It is not going to get too big too fast (unless you take steroids, which you should avoid like the plague: they will ultimately shrink your penis and testicles,lead to acne, and can of course cause all kinds of tendon and joint failure; Link).

In order to teach your body that you can handle the extra mass, you should consider doing some jogging on the days you aren't working out with weights.  Skipping rope is another great activity, as is mixing it up with a heavy bag a little bit.

Also, when lifting weights, consider devoting each day to one body part. That is, work out your biceps, sure, but do it 18 different ways, and then go home, sleep and eat.  Generally, I try to pick two non reliant muscle groups (i.e. biceps and triceps) and just work on those one day, and on another group the next, and so forth. Focus more on your upper body than your lower body. If you run (and of course play basketball) the lower body will take care of itself.

I would avoid all supplements except a daily multi-vitamin and just eat everything you want. AS I said earlier, your body really knows what it needs. Working out is also about learning to listen to your body.

Re: Body Building Questions
« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2008, 05:26:15 PM »

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I know this might not be the best site for this, but since for most other sites(regarding the topic) you need to be a member to post, I think I'll ask you all these:

I am starting to work out at a gym about 3 times a week and look to gain about 20 pounds (10kgs) of weight (mainly muscle)-is it recommended that I take protein shakes?
I understand they are most effective after a workout, but do I still take them on my off days?
Also will it help me build muscle if I'm only taking them at night before bed(as they stop me from starving at night-I understand they keep you fuller and longer) instead of straight after workout?

I'm really clueless about this, but it'd be great if you can tell me. Thanks!

Avoid Shakes
and pills
Use carbs and Proten ( natural )
Workout like a madman
use piramidal rutines
Try to lift more and more weight every day without taking to the limit
To force things will only hurt u

If u need a specific routine pm me i used to be a gym rat in my triatlon days
and everytime an ex girl left me hihihi
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Re: Body Building Questions
« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2008, 08:42:26 PM »

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Thanks again for everyone's opinio'm starting to learn a bit.

For background info, I'm 5'11 and 148 and 18. Only started seriously recently and aiming for mainly upper body as my upper body is weaker and smaller than my lower (althgouh I also do some lower body and compound excercises).

As for supplements, the only thing that I'm looking at and consider ever using is some protein powder. However there are so many types and brands as well like why protein isolate (which is probably what I'm looking at right now if I were to get any), protein concentrate, night-time protein, post-workout protein etc. So anyone got any opinions/suggestions for them?

Again thanks!
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Re: Body Building Questions
« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2008, 09:13:26 PM »

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At nearly 6'3" and 155 lbs(your age might help tremendously in giving out proper advice) and trying to gain over 10% more body mass of all muscle, I think the best thing to do is go seek medical advice first. If you are young(less than 22 years old) working out while maintaining a healthy balanced diet and using protein supplementals might be all you need. But if you are older, a more stringent diet and workout regime might need be required.

Seek the advice of your doctor and discuss your desires and goals. Also, once the doctor gives you advice take that advice to a professional trainer and for a one time deal have him work with you for a while(2-4 weeks) to get things going in the right direction for you. Make sure the trainer is properly certified.

And know this, don't rush this. It will be a gradual cycle and the healthiest way of doing it is slowly.

Whenever trying to rework your body in the manner you are suggestion take the innitial precautions instead of running into it half cocked and with a bunch of advice from people who are not familiar with you, your body, or your medical and physical limitations.

I'm 43 and being a football and baseball player first and basketball fanatic second my weight training was always geared towards keeping the weight off as I am naturally a large guy (I graduated highschool with little weight training at 6" 195 and not an ounce of fat on me, college and beer changed that). Now my training, if and when I get around to it, consists entirely of toning and shaping and not weight and muscle gaining.

I have a friend that was a body builder and won a few local tournaments on the south shore. He like me was a former football player so the six small meals a day while working out always helped lose fat while building muscle. I think that's good advice but perhaps considering your body type, you may want to rethink that option.

Remember, seek professional medical and training advice, pay for some if you are truly committed, and be patient and safe about it. Remember also that no one knows your body better than you and your doctor and jumping into advice from someone who knows nothing about your body is not very smart.

Good luck.



Re: Body Building Questions
« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2008, 09:20:54 PM »

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A few things:

1) If you want to really get in shape, do cardio on days that you aren't lifting (and maybe even a little on days that you are). If you really just want to put on weight, limit the cardio (but not total exclusion) for a couple months to pack on the pounds, then pick up the cardio again for a month or so to "cut."

2)A balanced diet is key. Lean meats and fish, LOTS of vegetables (especially green) and fruits, try and make it 4-5 smaller meals a day to keep your metabolism burning consistently.

3)LOTS of water (or at least a bit more than the normal daily recomended amount).

4)Protein shakes are great for right after/during the workout and mornings even (or with meals that are lower in protein), but you need lots of nautral protein found in food as well. Try and get your weight plus 20-40% in grams of protein a day.

5) Try and work 2-3 muscle groups a day and split your routine into 3-4 days a week so you can rest in between. (day 1: Back/Bi, day 2: chest/tri, day 3: legs, etc.

6) don;t neglect your leg workouts. Supposedly working out your legs realeases a lot of testosterone.

7) try and not eat much for 3-4 hours before you go to sleep.

8) Increase your daily calorie intake to compensate for all that you are burning and to add mass.

9) Get plenty of rest at night for recovery and don't be a stressball.

10) Avoid alchohol and smoking as much as possible.

Re: Body Building Questions
« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2008, 09:25:16 PM »

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A few things:

1) If you want to really get in shape, do cardio on days that you aren't lifting (and maybe even a little on days that you are). If you really just want to put on weight, limit the cardio (but not total exclusion) for a couple months to pack on the pounds, then pick up the cardio again for a month or so to "cut."

2)A balanced diet is key. Lean meats and fish, LOTS of vegetables (especially green) and fruits, try and make it 4-5 smaller meals a day to keep your metabolism burning consistently.

3)LOTS of water (or at least a bit more than the normal daily recomended amount).

4)Protein shakes are great for right after/during the workout and mornings even (or with meals that are lower in protein), but you need lots of nautral protein found in food as well. Try and get your weight plus 20-40% in grams of protein a day.

5) Try and work 2-3 muscle groups a day and split your routine into 3-4 days a week so you can rest in between. (day 1: Back/Bi, day 2: chest/tri, day 3: legs, etc.

6) don;t neglect your leg workouts. Supposedly working out your legs realeases a lot of testosterone.

7) try and not eat much for 3-4 hours before you go to sleep.

8) Increase your daily calorie intake to compensate for all that you are burning and to add mass.

9) Get plenty of rest at night for recovery and don't be a stressball.

10) Avoid alchohol and smoking as much as possible.

No 10 unless u want to look cut next day cause dehidratation...lol  ;)

Good advices

No. 1 1) Workout a big muscle with  one or two small muscles every workout day
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Re: Body Building Questions
« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2008, 09:31:25 PM »

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If you want to train like a real pro athlete, check out:

http://www.coreperformance.com/

(I'm assuming you're a young guy just starting out with your training).

Packing on a few pounds of muscle is all well and good, but if your goal is to excel in sports, it's all about having a strong core.  Mark Verstegan has written an excellent guide called "Core Performance," which to me is a must have for any young athlete looking to train seriously for a sport.

If you're just looking to get bigger and look good, BodyforLife.com and their six small meals a day (with lots of lean protein) and intense, 50 minute workouts might work for you. 

Re: Body Building Questions
« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2008, 09:31:35 PM »

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General tips:

Keep a training journal, and keep close track of what you lift.  Set personal records for various reps per weight for the variety of exercises you do, then try to break your personal records.  This gives you motivation to keep going back in the gym to try to improve.  Plus it's good to gauge your progress based on what you can do, rather than what you weigh.  When I was in high school I wanted to gain muscle mass, but I focused more on the eating than the lifting, and while I did gain weight it was probably mostly fat.  I would give the same advice to someone trying to lose weight: pay attention to what you can do physically as opposed to how much you weigh.  That way you're dealing with more finite, therefore acheiveable, goals.  And if you focus on making yourself stronger, you're good, because to get big muscles you've got to be lifting heavy weights, basically.  I keep a training journal with all my records at the back, and at the front I write down what I do each day, then when I break a record I go to the back and fill it in.  I'm kind of anal though, some people would probably say to go more by feel.

Do squats (quads), deadlift (hams), bench (pecs), military press (delts), pull-ups (lats) as your primary exercises that you do each time you work out that particular body group.  Then add secondary exercises.  On the day I do back I always do chins first, then bicep curls after (although some people say do biceps first if you want to target them).  I do each body part once a week: 1. chest, delts, triceps; 2. abs; 3. legs; 4. back, biceps.  You could probably go through all that in 4 or 5 days, but I'm old.  Do some cardio, 20 or 30 minutes each day too.

Eat lean meat like chicken and lowfat ham, lofat beef, tuna, etc.  Eat a lot of vegetables to get full instead of loading up on carbs.  Don't deprive yourself of carbs either though, eat enough good carbs, but beware of making carbs your main source of the volume of food you eat, (especially as you get older).  Especially because carbs are the main thing that seems to satisfy hunger.  I think a lot of people are sort of addicted to carbs, meaning that their body gets used to a ton of unnecessary sugar.  Eat good carbs, like brown rice, oatmeal, etc., but beware of overdoing it.

Good products: "Worldwide Pure Protein" shakes: comes in a can, 35 g protein, only 160 calories.  Expensive though, like 3$.  Better option: make your own shakes with milk, protein powder, a banana.  I think Creatine is a good supplement, I've used it off and on for a while, it seems good, but honestly I have no idea what it does.  A lot of GNC stuff you're probably just feeding the fishes, but maybe it's a placebo effect, I don't know.  "Pure protein" bars are good, I like the blueberry and strawberry shortcake flavors.
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Re: Body Building Questions
« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2008, 09:36:24 PM »

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Oh yeah a lot of water too, but not necessarily when you're working out.  I sit at my desk and drink like 3 liters during the daytime, then when I'm at the gym I only take a few sips, then when I get home I drink like another half liter of water.  No need to actually get all your water at the gym, spread it out, that way you're not running to the bathroom in between each set and annoying people at the water fountain.
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Re: Body Building Questions
« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2008, 12:14:18 AM »

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It all depends on your body type.

I'm 5'11" (and some change barefoot) 210 right now. You might think I'm really fat but I'm only a little soft.

I tend to gain weight fast - putting on muscle is relatively easy. But I also gain just as much fat in the process.

If you are looking to get big, don't half-youknowwhat it by trying to cut and bulk up simultaneously. That will fallback. You need to do one or the other. The only thing that you should do no matter what is spreading your meals to 5 or 6 times a day instead of 3. The idea behind having only 3 meals was created during the industrial revolution to rotate around the workday. In this day in age, I'm sure you can eat something nutritious while filling while "at work." No longer are we in an age where there are strict timetables for living life.

Obviously it's important to eat well, but if you're a skinny guy - eat. And don't get discouraged if you don't see results right away. Nobody sees results RIGHT away. You have to "understand" your body before you know how YOUR body stores muscle. There is a lot of good advice being given by other posters in this thread, so I won't lecture too much about the do's and do not's. Do a combination of dummbells and barbells, but remember to switch things up instead of sticking to one way of doing things so as to keep your body "confused" and "shocked" which are critical for lean muscle being gained. And do the full body workout - do lats (back), lower and upper back, chest, pecs, abs (don't forget abs! there needs to be balance from the top to bottom of your body!), legs, quads, arms - triceps, biceps, brachialis, EVERYTHING. And don't overdo it - most importantly, have FUN. If you aren't ADDICTED to your workout, you will eventually bail out and lose all that muscle quickly. This has to be a part of your life, if getting bigger is your goal.