Posey to the Hornets? Maggette to the Spurs? Celtics left with?

[nickagneta]

last time i checked Wallace was on the Bobcats

Brainfart. I can't tell you how many times I still mentally have the Hornets in Charlotte.

I still say Los Angeles Rams, St Louis Cardinals, and California Angels too for those teams that moved. I don't think in my life I ever even thought of the Raiders being antwhere but Oakland.

Well, Posey to New Orleans would be rather a good move. He could be a big asset to the Jazz.

[RebusRankin]

If we lose out on Posey and Maggette, I say Quinton Ross.

[Mr October]

If we lose out on Posey and Maggette, I say Quinton Ross.

I've been harping on Ross for the past year, and i'll do it again! Ross would be a fantastic role player on this team!!! His defense is excellent, and he routinely knocks down mid range jumpers.

[picklechu]

What about Ersan Ilyasova? The Bucks retain his rights, and his contract in Spain could be opted out of if he gets a contract in the NBA. The Bucks just picked up RJ plus 2 more SFs in the draft, maybe they would do a sign and trade.
A big 3 who can defend and rebound? Just a thought.

[Who]

Posey to the Hornets doesn't make enough sense for my liking. They're desperate for a backup big man and they have an excellent prospect in Julian Wright who could fulfill most of Posey's potential impact.

Still, they're clearly going after Posey and after quite a few other wings. They must not be happy with Mo Pete or Bonzi or perhaps Julian Wright too.

[cordobes]

What about Ersan Ilyasova? The Bucks retain his rights, and his contract in Spain could be opted out of if he gets a contract in the NBA. The Bucks just picked up RJ plus 2 more SFs in the draft, maybe they would do a sign and trade.
A big 3 who can defend and rebound? Just a thought.

No, he's not good enough. He's not in the class of guys like Manu, Scola or Gasol, who were ready to make an immediate impact in the NBA.

Ilyasova is a decent player, but do you really want a quasi-rookie to be your 6th player when your goal is to win it all?

[MaineBleedsGreen]

Its probably near blasphemous - but I felt Posey REALLY struggled against the quicker wings. Ray Allen and Paul Pierce pretty much had Kobe the entire finals, and with good reason - Posey would have been worked.

Maybe he would have been worked; but the fact is that when he guarded Kobe, he wasn't. And of course he was assigned to Odom most of the time. When exactly has he struggled against quicker wings?

I agree, and said this many times, but i felt like against quicker wings he was playing d with his hands and not his feet. I know people are going to say, "well how'd he still draw so many charges?", which without looking at film I simply can't answer, but there is certainly a difference between positioning (especially on help D) and lateral quickness in-regards to making those plays. I too felt like he was struggling against quicker players. It's just what i saw, I can't defend it any better then that.

[Chris]

Its probably near blasphemous - but I felt Posey REALLY struggled against the quicker wings. Ray Allen and Paul Pierce pretty much had Kobe the entire finals, and with good reason - Posey would have been worked.

Maybe he would have been worked; but the fact is that when he guarded Kobe, he wasn't. And of course he was assigned to Odom most of the time. When exactly has he struggled against quicker wings?

I agree, and said this many times, but i felt like against quicker wings he was playing d with his hands and not his feet. I know people are going to say, "well how'd he still draw so many charges?", which without looking at film I simply can't answer, but there is certainly a difference between positioning (especially on help D) and lateral quickness in-regards to making those plays. I too felt like he was struggling against quicker players. It's just what i saw, I can't defend it any better then that.

I absolutely agree with this.  Posey has absolutely had trouble staying in front of quicker wings.  Let's face it, he is not Bruce Bowen...but he does a hell of a job on the bigger wings.  He also is such a smart player, that even when he did struggle against the quicker players, he was able to adapt quickly to changes made by Thibodeau to the team defense, which would often offset his slightly slower lateral quickness.

[cordobes]

Its probably near blasphemous - but I felt Posey REALLY struggled against the quicker wings. Ray Allen and Paul Pierce pretty much had Kobe the entire finals, and with good reason - Posey would have been worked.

Maybe he would have been worked; but the fact is that when he guarded Kobe, he wasn't. And of course he was assigned to Odom most of the time. When exactly has he struggled against quicker wings?

I agree, and said this many times, but i felt like against quicker wings he was playing d with his hands and not his feet. I know people are going to say, "well how'd he still draw so many charges?", which without looking at film I simply can't answer, but there is certainly a difference between positioning (especially on help D) and lateral quickness in-regards to making those plays. I too felt like he was struggling against quicker players. It's just what i saw, I can't defend it any better then that.

Okay, but do you remember one of those games? I'd like to re-watch them. And there's no one in the NBA who can play lockdown 1on1 defense on every type of player, from Wade to LeBron, from Rip to Manu, not even Bowen or Ross, at least since the no-handchecking rule; their skill set is just too widely varied. You have to assess the balance and your needs. And Posey also offers the defense on PFs. 

[BudweiserCeltic]

Its probably near blasphemous - but I felt Posey REALLY struggled against the quicker wings. Ray Allen and Paul Pierce pretty much had Kobe the entire finals, and with good reason - Posey would have been worked.

Maybe he would have been worked; but the fact is that when he guarded Kobe, he wasn't. And of course he was assigned to Odom most of the time. When exactly has he struggled against quicker wings?

I agree, and said this many times, but i felt like against quicker wings he was playing d with his hands and not his feet. I know people are going to say, "well how'd he still draw so many charges?", which without looking at film I simply can't answer, but there is certainly a difference between positioning (especially on help D) and lateral quickness in-regards to making those plays. I too felt like he was struggling against quicker players. It's just what i saw, I can't defend it any better then that.

Okay, but do you remember one of those games? I'd like to re-watch them. And there's no one in the NBA who can play lockdown 1on1 defense on every type of player, from Wade to LeBron, from Rip to Manu, not even Bowen or Ross, at least since the no-handchecking rule; their skill set is just too widely varied. You have to assess the balance and your needs. And Posey also offers the defense on PFs. 

Yep, which is why I believe the notion of not having Posey to lock-up Kobe and the likes is mistaken. Go rewatch the games, and you'll see how Kobe had the best of him in many if not most possessions, but our help defense was good. But just as our help defense was good, it opened up the passing lanes a bit for Kobe to find the open man.

This was the most important part of Pierce on Kobe, that he was pretty much the only one in our team to defend him straight up one on one. Kobe posted Ray up. Kobe drove past Posey with relative ease and got into the paint.

It has been a bit undermentioned as far as I'm concerned, but the key part, in my opinion, in containing the LeBrons and the Kobes was our big man rotation, and how we constantly put 2-3 bodies between those guys and the basket.

Now, if you guys want to make cases on how Posey took some the other lesser players by himself out of the game, that's something I can agree with, but let's not make the case on how Posey was the defensive god against these all-star types.

[RockinRyA]

i think so too. in the cleveland series he did an awesome job on lebron on the first few games. but as the series wore on bron figured him out. and it really seemd that pp was the best guy on him. i think MMacOH, the cleveland fan pointed that out.

his smarts made him offset some of the disadvantages, but not all.

thats why i felt TA was better in defending kobe in the few moments he was in the finals. he kept up with kobe and made him pay on the ofensive end too( probably why he had a high  +/- stat in the finals)

if we lose out on posey i wish we'd resign tony even for cheap

[zerophase]

ehh possibly not having any vets from free agency for the 2/3/4 spots may be good for our future. hopefully we'll see more of powe and finally or rookies might get some playing time.

[Greenback]

I have heard that the Celtics are trying to get Maggette and Posey.


"If you chase two rabbits, you will lose them both."  - Ancient Proverb

[CoachBo]

Its probably near blasphemous - but I felt Posey REALLY struggled against the quicker wings. Ray Allen and Paul Pierce pretty much had Kobe the entire finals, and with good reason - Posey would have been worked.

Maybe he would have been worked; but the fact is that when he guarded Kobe, he wasn't. And of course he was assigned to Odom most of the time. When exactly has he struggled against quicker wings?

I agree, and said this many times, but i felt like against quicker wings he was playing d with his hands and not his feet. I know people are going to say, "well how'd he still draw so many charges?", which without looking at film I simply can't answer, but there is certainly a difference between positioning (especially on help D) and lateral quickness in-regards to making those plays. I too felt like he was struggling against quicker players. It's just what i saw, I can't defend it any better then that.

Okay, but do you remember one of those games? I'd like to re-watch them. And there's no one in the NBA who can play lockdown 1on1 defense on every type of player, from Wade to LeBron, from Rip to Manu, not even Bowen or Ross, at least since the no-handchecking rule; their skill set is just too widely varied. You have to assess the balance and your needs. And Posey also offers the defense on PFs. 

Yep, which is why I believe the notion of not having Posey to lock-up Kobe and the likes is mistaken. Go rewatch the games, and you'll see how Kobe had the best of him in many if not most possessions, but our help defense was good. But just as our help defense was good, it opened up the passing lanes a bit for Kobe to find the open man.

This was the most important part of Pierce on Kobe, that he was pretty much the only one in our team to defend him straight up one on one. Kobe posted Ray up. Kobe drove past Posey with relative ease and got into the paint.

It has been a bit undermentioned as far as I'm concerned, but the key part, in my opinion, in containing the LeBrons and the Kobes was our big man rotation, and how we constantly put 2-3 bodies between those guys and the basket.

Now, if you guys want to make cases on how Posey took some the other lesser players by himself out of the game, that's something I can agree with, but let's not make the case on how Posey was the defensive god against these all-star types.

The anti-Posey disinformation campaign continues ...

[silvershamrocker]

Any chance TA is back?