No looks at Anthony Carter?

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Anthony Carter appears to be going back to Denver for the vets minimum of about $1.2 mil.  I know we are locked up trying to use the MLE on Posey, maybe Maggette, and then some others... but what about the LLE or also offering the vets minimum (not a salary cap wiz, so not sure of our options).

AC is a solid backup point guard who loves to D up and had by far the best offensive season of his career last year.  He seems like an ideal backup to Rondo, in my opinion, and I remember some talk about acquiring him during last season.  Maybe his offensive spike was because of a contract year? (Although you don't usually see that from such career role players/journeyman).  If the Celtics could match whatever offer the Nuggets gave him, why wouldn't he want to come here?  It's a winning team, not a mess of attitudes like Denver (although maybe he likes that atmosphere?), and he played 2 years with KG recently. 

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Anthony Carter appears to be going back to Denver for the vets minimum of about $1.2 mil.  I know we are locked up trying to use the MLE on Posey, maybe Maggette, and then some others... but what about the LLE or also offering the vets minimum (not a salary cap wiz, so not sure of our options).

AC is a solid backup point guard who loves to D up and had by far the best offensive season of his career last year.  He seems like an ideal backup to Rondo, in my opinion, and I remember some talk about acquiring him during last season.  Maybe his offensive spike was because of a contract year? (Although you don't usually see that from such career role players/journeyman).  If the Celtics could match whatever offer the Nuggets gave him, why wouldn't he want to come here?  It's a winning team, not a mess of attitudes like Denver (although maybe he likes that atmosphere?), and he played 2 years with KG recently. 

I mentioned him in the "why aren't we talking to...." thread and basically got shot down.  He sounds great on paper, but one poster was telling me that he has Sam I am itus?  I can't see this being true on a team with Melo and AI (that's a lot of shots) so I didn't agree or disagree. 

Unless he has some major character issues he sounds good to me.

[Big Ticket]

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Anthony Carter appears to be going back to Denver for the vets minimum of about $1.2 mil.  I know we are locked up trying to use the MLE on Posey, maybe Maggette, and then some others... but what about the LLE or also offering the vets minimum (not a salary cap wiz, so not sure of our options).

AC is a solid backup point guard who loves to D up and had by far the best offensive season of his career last year.  He seems like an ideal backup to Rondo, in my opinion, and I remember some talk about acquiring him during last season.  Maybe his offensive spike was because of a contract year? (Although you don't usually see that from such career role players/journeyman).  If the Celtics could match whatever offer the Nuggets gave him, why wouldn't he want to come here?  It's a winning team, not a mess of attitudes like Denver (although maybe he likes that atmosphere?), and he played 2 years with KG recently. 

I mentioned him in the "why aren't we talking to...." thread and basically got shot down.  He sounds great on paper, but one poster was telling me that he has Sam I am itus?  I can't see this being true on a team with Melo and AI (that's a lot of shots) so I didn't agree or disagree. 

Unless he has some major character issues he sounds good to me.

On this team, in this system, I really don't see that as a problem.  I'm going off the two years of regular watching when he played on the Wolves, and never really thinking he was too shot-happy. 

[yupitsme]

When I think of Mr. Carter I think... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cym1qCvNbeM

[Bankshot]

When I think of Mr. Carter I think... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cym1qCvNbeM

LOL

[Big Ticket]

When I think of Mr. Carter I think...

That's pretty good... TP for that.  But in seriousness, I see a player that can make a huge contribution off the bench, at a minuscule price.

[Who]

No, he's not a good player. Carter brings nothing to the table that isn't easily acquired elsewhere. He's not much of a point guard, not much of a passer, not much of a shooter and he's a mediocre defender. He's a third string guard in this league and he's killing the Nuggets,

No, let Denver have him.

[Big Ticket]

No, he's not a good player. Carter brings nothing to the table that isn't easily acquired elsewhere. He's not much of a point guard, not much of a passer, not much of a shooter and he's a mediocre defender. He's a third string guard in this league and he's killing the Nuggets,

No, let Denver have him.

Hmmmm... well, I disagree.  Although, yeah, he's been a very bad shooter outside of last season.

[paintitgreen]

He's not killing the Nuggets. The Nuggets' complete lack of any inside offensive game, the Nuggets' general aversion to defense, as best evidenced by Carmelo doing nothing and Iverson constantly gambling for steals, the total lack of accountability, teamwork or camaraderie - that's what's "killing" the Nuggets. But don't forget, they did win 50 games last year, so he couldn't have killed them that badly. I agree he's a backup point guard being unfairly thrust into the role of a starting point guard, but that's not his fault - that's the Nuggets' fault. It's part of them being an inept team; their shortcomings are not the fault of Carter. 

I don't see the chucker thing either. Last year, he took 6.8 shots a game in 28 minutes. One shot every 4 minutes is very few for a starting point guard (Sam took 7.6 shots a game in 17.5 minutes with Boston, and 10.6 in 25.7 with the Clippers). Carter also had an assist to turnover ratio above 3 (5.5 assists to 1.8 TO) along with 1.5 steals per game, 46% shooting and 35% from 3. He hasn't been a great shooter, but he has always been a good ballhandler who makes few mistakes. While no longer a great man defender, he's been a good defender throughout his career and I think he would excel in a team defensive strategy. So I definitely don't think he's a bad player.

Of course, his weakest point, shooting, is also Rondo's weakest point, and House (and Cassell) both showed at times how important it is to have our backup point spread the floor. So he's not an ideal fit. Still, if he is/was available for the veterans' minimum, I don't see why we don't/didn't take a shot on him.

[Who]

No, he's not a good player. Carter brings nothing to the table that isn't easily acquired elsewhere. He's not much of a point guard, not much of a passer, not much of a shooter and he's a mediocre defender. He's a third string guard in this league and he's killing the Nuggets,

No, let Denver have him.

Hmmmm... well, I disagree.  Although, yeah, he's been a very bad shooter outside of last season.

Do you think he's helping Denver?

Their offense is a disgrace. It was running smoothly with Steve Blake at the helm the prior season. We're not talking some exceptional talent here, we're talking Steve Blake. Their offense has no player or ball movement since Carter took over the job. The big men no longer get rewarded for their hustle. He's not good on the break and gets them no easy shots either. He's been atrocious, not just bad, atrocious for Denver.

Defensively he's fallen off hugely since his Miami Heat days. At best he's a mediocre defender.

Denver look miles better when any of the bench players come in for Carter and that's on both ends of the court.

Carter shouldn't be a regular in an NBA rotation. He isn't good enough.

By the way, this was his best season since leaving Miami. It's not like he struggled last year and has a lot more to offer.

[Big Ticket]

No, he's not a good player. Carter brings nothing to the table that isn't easily acquired elsewhere. He's not much of a point guard, not much of a passer, not much of a shooter and he's a mediocre defender. He's a third string guard in this league and he's killing the Nuggets,

No, let Denver have him.

Hmmmm... well, I disagree.  Although, yeah, he's been a very bad shooter outside of last season.

Do you think he's helping Denver?

Their offense is a disgrace. It was running smoothly with Steve Blake at the helm the prior season. We're not talking some exceptional talent here, we're talking Steve Blake. Their offense has no player or ball movement since Carter took over the job. The big men no longer get rewarded for their hustle. He's not good on the break and gets them no easy shots either. He's been atrocious, not just bad, atrocious for Denver.

Defensively he's fallen off hugely since his Miami Heat days. At best he's a mediocre defender.

Denver look miles better when any of the bench players come in for Carter and that's on both ends of the court.

Carter shouldn't be a regular in an NBA rotation. He isn't good enough.

By the way, this was his best season since leaving Miami. It's not like he struggled last year and has a lot more to offer.

That's all well and good, but the Celtics are about as far off from Denver Nugget basketball as you can get.  And I think AC would much better in a 15 minute per night back up role than having to play starter.

What (or who) attributes of his, in your mind, is/are easily acquired elsewhere?

[Who]

That's all well and good, but the Celtics are about as far off from Denver Nugget basketball as you can get.  And I think AC would much better in a 15 minute per night back up role than having to play starter.

What's Carter bringing to the table for Boston that makes him worthwhile?

What (or who) attributes of his, in your mind, is/are easily acquired elsewhere?

Here's a list of all the unrestricted free agent point guards this summer. I'll cross off the guys that are off the table or are worse than Carter.

Baron Davis, Chris Duhon, Jannero Pargo, Anthony Johnson, Eddie House, Sebastian Telfair, Keyon Dooling, Beno Udrih, Shaun Livingston, Roger Mason, Juan Dixon, Kevin Ollie, Earl Boykins, Anthony Carter, Jason Williams, Dan Dickau, Darrell Armstrong, Carlos Arroyo, Tyronn Lue, Royal Ivey, Salim Stoudamire, Alex Acker, Sam Cassell, Damon Stoudamire, Smush Parker, Blake Ahearn

Anthony Carter is behind all of those players. That's 17 point guards who are unrestricted free agents. I believe 15-16 of them will be there for the vets minimum to LLE. Damon Stoudamire is close behind Carter. Acker is ruled out because I don't what he has to offer, same with Blake Ahearn.

The skills he brings to the table - mediocre defense, doesn't turn it over, decent shooter. Negatives - He's a dumb player who can't run the team and is a poor passer, struggles defensively against both quick and big guards. I'm probably being too kind with the mediocre defense but let's leave it at mediocre.

[Big Ticket]

I guess I'll just disagree... I think he's better than a mediocre defender and I think he is more than capable in running the team in the sense that the teams needs... bring the ball up on offense, find the open shooters, hit the occasional open shot.  Some of those names are definitely more enticing... but I haven't heard much about any of them with regard to the Celtics either, so maybe one is an option.  I guess it's wait and see until the 9th and beyond.