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Re: Jamele Hill suspended by ESPN!
« Reply #45 on: June 18, 2008, 04:32:39 PM »

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I just hope her editor gets his fair share of punishment as well.
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Re: Jamele Hill suspended by ESPN!
« Reply #46 on: June 18, 2008, 06:16:51 PM »

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I didn't really know who Jamele Hill was before I saw this thread, and judging by people's reactions I'm assuming that's a good thing. I will start this off by saying I have not read the un-edited version of the article, and I probably won't waste my time trying to track it down. I know what I've read on this thread and another thread on the topic.

I agree that in this piece she clearly states that she is of the opinion that Boston is  a predominately white city, and was (is?) racist, and that a lot of Black NBA fans wouldn't root for the Celtics because of that perception. I wonder really though if that was the case, I mean sure it sounds good, and it evens makes a bit of sense on the surface, but that doesn't mean it's true. I would like to think that you would make the deicision of which team to root for based on who your local team is, or who your favorite player is, but that wasn't the case for Jameel, or atleast not within making whatever point she was working towards in this piece. I mean she says "admittedly, to some degree it was about race", but does she ever go on to examine any of the other issues of why she didn't like the Celtics or just leave it at that point?

I mean if anything I feel she's admitting that she was (and some people feel still is) racist towards white people, no? how else can you explain saying as a black person i won't root for a sports team because they come from a predominately white city? I mean it's almost as if she's reminiscing on the good old days when a decision (in this case which sports team to root for) could easily be made using baseless and ignorant stereotypes, because she clearly doesn't like the way things are now where those barriers have been broken down. She is incensed that apparently some African Americans in Detroit wanted the Celtics to beat the Lakers and goes on to compare those individuals to what can only be described as people who would have been very deplorable to most American's (I'm sure some German's, and Russian's would have received the comments differently). And if you look at her words from this perspective than the fact that she's comparing those Black Piston fans to Hitler Sympathizers and Communist Lovers is actually a very startling, harsh, ignorant, ill-informed, and yes in many ways racist thing to say. 

note: I was gunna take on the challenge of replying to you paintitgreen, as I thought you contradicted yourself a few times, and also state that "opinion" or "perspective" is fact a few times, but I'm too drained in every way to even begin tackling a post that long! Good job. Till next time  ;)

Re: Jamele Hill suspended by ESPN!
« Reply #47 on: June 18, 2008, 06:40:57 PM »

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Re: Jamele Hill suspended by ESPN!
« Reply #48 on: June 19, 2008, 03:39:11 PM »

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For anybody who wants to read Jemele's latest thoughts on this subject, you can see here.

In a nutshell, she says:

1) She'll publish more on this later; and

2) Ala Bill Plaschke, she focuses on the hate mail of a few, rather than on her own actions.


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Re: Jamele Hill suspended by ESPN!
« Reply #49 on: June 19, 2008, 04:02:17 PM »

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For anybody who wants to read Jemele's latest thoughts on this subject, you can see here.

In a nutshell, she says:

1) She'll publish more on this later; and

2) Ala Bill Plaschke, she focuses on the hate mail of a few, rather than on her own actions.



Maybe the idiot can apologize for this as well: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hill/070326


Re: Jamele Hill suspended by ESPN!
« Reply #50 on: June 19, 2008, 04:04:09 PM »

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Quote from: Jemele Hill
Kobe is just as good a defender. His killer instinct is just as pronounced.

Yeah, let's put those two to rest, shall we?

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Re: Jamele Hill suspended by ESPN!
« Reply #51 on: June 19, 2008, 04:11:00 PM »

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As I've said previously, I like Jemele Hill and I think this suspension is total BS. I also thought the Imus suspension was BS. She made an off-color joke for shock value. The sad thing is, it wasn't even a funny joke (it didn't even really make sense). But suspended? Total PC fascism.

You people saying she should be fired need to go back nazi germany or communist russia where you belong. You'd love it! Why settle for suspending her? Why fire her? She can just be taken away in the night and never seen again. It would be like she dissapeared off the face of the Earth.

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Re: Jamele Hill suspended by ESPN!
« Reply #52 on: June 19, 2008, 04:15:53 PM »

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I just dont believe in double standards.  This was the same woman that refused to accept an apology from Imus for what he said but now she should be treated differently.  Not to protect Imus, but the guy at least made attempts to apologize to everyone.  Her apology doest even seem that sincere.
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Re: Jamele Hill suspended by ESPN!
« Reply #53 on: June 19, 2008, 04:48:56 PM »

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I'm interested to see the ombudsman's report on this.  She's been a nice breath of fresh air for ESPN.com so far with her honesty, and her ability to call out Colin Cowherd for his mistakes.  I can only hope she writes a column of similar integrity when addressing Hill.
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Re: Jamele Hill suspended by ESPN!
« Reply #54 on: June 19, 2008, 04:54:38 PM »

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As I've said previously, I like Jemele Hill and I think this suspension is total BS. I also thought the Imus suspension was BS. She made an off-color joke for shock value. The sad thing is, it wasn't even a funny joke (it didn't even really make sense). But suspended? Total PC fascism.

You people saying she should be fired need to go back nazi germany or communist russia where you belong. You'd love it! Why settle for suspending her? Why fire her? She can just be taken away in the night and never seen again. It would be like she dissapeared off the face of the Earth.

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Very well thought out post, you can be proud of yourself....and so classy.

I think you have no idea what you´re talking about. This is no PC fascism, this is a business decision, and just common sense.

Why don´t you tell your wisdom someone who wants to hear it, like the jew who lost his parents to the Nazis, and whose comments got deleted by ESPN? He was also disgusted. Tell him that was just a joke, and he shouldn´t be so serious.

Very classy.
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Re: Jamele Hill suspended by ESPN!
« Reply #55 on: June 19, 2008, 04:55:18 PM »

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Kobe Bryant is better than Michael Jordan.

Not more successful.

Hasn't had a bigger economic impact.

Hasn't won more MVPs.

But he's a better player.

Kobe can do everything Michael did, and even a few things Michael couldn't do.

Kobe is just as good a defender. His killer instinct is just as pronounced. He can shoot, finish and explode. And just like Jordan, the more he's ****ed off, the more unstoppable he is.

I stopped paying attention after that.

Re: Jamele Hill suspended by ESPN!
« Reply #56 on: June 19, 2008, 05:38:43 PM »

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Kobe Bryant is better than Michael Jordan.

Not more successful.

Hasn't had a bigger economic impact.

Hasn't won more MVPs.

But he's a better player.

Kobe can do everything Michael did, and even a few things Michael couldn't do.

Kobe is just as good a defender. His killer instinct is just as pronounced. He can shoot, finish and explode. And just like Jordan, the more he's ****ed off, the more unstoppable he is.

I stopped paying attention after that.

I wasn't a fan of her before that and that particular article didn't exactly improve her credibility with me.


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