Will Bos VS LA renewed rivaly attract top role playing Free Agents???

[seccom]

even though it is a little early to think about,




Ainge just needs to ask one question to those FA.


'Who do you want to play with, Kobe or KG?'

That will be depending on the age of the free agent. The young one will want Lakers, the older one will want Celtics.

It will be Kobe, Gasol and Bynum vs KG, PP and Ray.

You are seeing that trend this year already.

  The Lakers window isn't much bigger than the Celts. As soon as Kobe slows down you guys are toast. Bynum and Gasol won't carry you anywhere without him.

Allen is 33, Kobe is 29
KG is 32, Odom is 28
PP is 31, Gasol is 27
Bynum is 20.

The Lakers 3 will the same age as the Celtics 3 four years from now. So you tell me how big is their window?

My calculation is Celtics window + 4 years.

[BballTim]

"I would love Calderon on the team too, but there is no way we can afford him. He is a starting point guard in this league and can easily command at least 8 mil a year which we don't have."

Calderon finished his contract.  He was only making 2.4 mill.  Toronto will probably make him a bigger offer, but we can at least try.  A combination of not resigning Cassell, House, Pollard, and maybe buying out Tony Allen' contract will give us enough money to make a serious offer.  I understant buying out a contract is hard to swallow from a financial point of view, but Grousebeck proved to us that he's serious about contending.  Maybe he'll be open to buying out Tony Allen, Big Baby, and Scalabrine.  Maybe trade away the draft pick to avoid committing more money?  I believe Vujacic might be available next year also. 

  There's no freeing up money for us. We're like $20M over the cap. We'll have the mid-level as our highest offer to a free agent.

[Chris]

C's and Lakers wouldnt be competing against each other for every FA.  Both teams have different needs, and have room for different players.

Next year for example, the C's will likely be looking for a backup PG, while the Lakers are pretty set at that position. 

There also will be plenty of other contending teams competing for each player.

When it comes down to it, each player is going to be weighing many factors such as money, the role they can be offered, ability to win a championship, and the actual city they would be living in.  Every player will be looking for something slightly different.  One things for sure though, both of these teams have a leg up on the rest of the league, because they offer the chance for a championship.

[BballTim]

even though it is a little early to think about,




Ainge just needs to ask one question to those FA.


'Who do you want to play with, Kobe or KG?'

That will be depending on the age of the free agent. The young one will want Lakers, the older one will want Celtics.

It will be Kobe, Gasol and Bynum vs KG, PP and Ray.

You are seeing that trend this year already.

  The Lakers window isn't much bigger than the Celts. As soon as Kobe slows down you guys are toast. Bynum and Gasol won't carry you anywhere without him.

Allen is 33, Kobe is 29
KG is 32, Odom is 28
PP is 31, Gasol is 27
Bynum is 20.

The Lakers 3 will the same age as the Celtics 3 four years from now. So you tell me how big is their window?

  Unless Bynum turns into Shaq your window revolves around Kobe. Gasol or Odom won't lead you anywhere. I'd say we're both in the 3-4 year range. We have to decide what to do with Ray (re-sign or possibly trade) and you have to do the same with Odom.

[tb727]

even though it is a little early to think about,




Ainge just needs to ask one question to those FA.


'Who do you want to play with, Kobe or KG?'

That will be depending on the age of the free agent. The young one will want Lakers, the older one will want Celtics.

It will be Kobe, Gasol and Bynum vs KG, PP and Ray.

You are seeing that trend this year already.

  The Lakers window isn't much bigger than the Celts. As soon as Kobe slows down you guys are toast. Bynum and Gasol won't carry you anywhere without him.

Allen is 33, Kobe is 29
KG is 32, Odom is 28
PP is 31, Gasol is 27
Bynum is 20.

The Lakers 3 will the same age as the Celtics 3 four years from now. So you tell me how big is their window?

Kobe turns 30 before Paul turns 31.

[seccom]

even though it is a little early to think about,




Ainge just needs to ask one question to those FA.


'Who do you want to play with, Kobe or KG?'

That will be depending on the age of the free agent. The young one will want Lakers, the older one will want Celtics.

It will be Kobe, Gasol and Bynum vs KG, PP and Ray.

You are seeing that trend this year already.

  The Lakers window isn't much bigger than the Celts. As soon as Kobe slows down you guys are toast. Bynum and Gasol won't carry you anywhere without him.

Allen is 33, Kobe is 29
KG is 32, Odom is 28
PP is 31, Gasol is 27
Bynum is 20.

The Lakers 3 will the same age as the Celtics 3 four years from now. So you tell me how big is their window?

Kobe turns 30 before Paul turns 31.

Ok, how about Celtics window + 3 years + (whatever impact from Bynum)

[Chris]

even though it is a little early to think about,




Ainge just needs to ask one question to those FA.


'Who do you want to play with, Kobe or KG?'

That will be depending on the age of the free agent. The young one will want Lakers, the older one will want Celtics.

It will be Kobe, Gasol and Bynum vs KG, PP and Ray.

You are seeing that trend this year already.

  The Lakers window isn't much bigger than the Celts. As soon as Kobe slows down you guys are toast. Bynum and Gasol won't carry you anywhere without him.

Allen is 33, Kobe is 29
KG is 32, Odom is 28
PP is 31, Gasol is 27
Bynum is 20.

The Lakers 3 will the same age as the Celtics 3 four years from now. So you tell me how big is their window?

Kobe turns 30 before Paul turns 31.

Ok, how about Celtics window + 3 years + (whatever impact from Bynum)

If you are going to throw in Bynum, then the C's would include Rondo.  Both of them have the potential to take over as stars, but still have a ways to go.

[nickagneta]

even though it is a little early to think about,




Ainge just needs to ask one question to those FA.


'Who do you want to play with, Kobe or KG?'

That will be depending on the age of the free agent. The young one will want Lakers, the older one will want Celtics.

It will be Kobe, Gasol and Bynum vs KG, PP and Ray.

You are seeing that trend this year already.

  The Lakers window isn't much bigger than the Celts. As soon as Kobe slows down you guys are toast. Bynum and Gasol won't carry you anywhere without him.

Allen is 33, Kobe is 29
KG is 32, Odom is 28
PP is 31, Gasol is 27
Bynum is 20.

The Lakers 3 will the same age as the Celtics 3 four years from now. So you tell me how big is their window?

I think you're leaving out a very important part of the equation.

Rajon Rondo  22

The thought of playing with a PG that might be one of the better PGs in the league in a year or two might be pretty intriguing for a veteran scorer that hasn't gotten a ring yet. A veteran scorer off the bench would be a very valuable commodity to both teams and if you're offensively minded who do you want to play big minutes with to win a title?

Rajon Rondo and the other unselfish Celtics or Kobe Bryant?

Can anyone say Grant Hill, Bonzi Wells or Beno Udrih?

[BballTim]

even though it is a little early to think about,




Ainge just needs to ask one question to those FA.


'Who do you want to play with, Kobe or KG?'

That will be depending on the age of the free agent. The young one will want Lakers, the older one will want Celtics.

It will be Kobe, Gasol and Bynum vs KG, PP and Ray.

You are seeing that trend this year already.

  The Lakers window isn't much bigger than the Celts. As soon as Kobe slows down you guys are toast. Bynum and Gasol won't carry you anywhere without him.

Allen is 33, Kobe is 29
KG is 32, Odom is 28
PP is 31, Gasol is 27
Bynum is 20.

The Lakers 3 will the same age as the Celtics 3 four years from now. So you tell me how big is their window?

Kobe turns 30 before Paul turns 31.

Ok, how about Celtics window + 3 years + (whatever impact from Bynum)

  Kobe's like 10 months younger than Paul. KG is 2 years older. I don't see Kobe as a contender much longer than the pair of Paul and KG. Unless you're the Pistons, it's hard to contend without a top 5 player. I don't see you as having a bigger window based on younger complementary players.

[seccom]

even though it is a little early to think about,




Ainge just needs to ask one question to those FA.


'Who do you want to play with, Kobe or KG?'

That will be depending on the age of the free agent. The young one will want Lakers, the older one will want Celtics.

It will be Kobe, Gasol and Bynum vs KG, PP and Ray.

You are seeing that trend this year already.

  The Lakers window isn't much bigger than the Celts. As soon as Kobe slows down you guys are toast. Bynum and Gasol won't carry you anywhere without him.

Allen is 33, Kobe is 29
KG is 32, Odom is 28
PP is 31, Gasol is 27
Bynum is 20.

The Lakers 3 will the same age as the Celtics 3 four years from now. So you tell me how big is their window?

I think you're leaving out a very important part of the equation.

Rajon Rondo  22

The thought of playing with a PG that might be one of the better PGs in the league in a year or two might be pretty intriguing for a veteran scorer that hasn't gotten a ring yet. A veteran scorer off the bench would be a very valuable commodity to both teams and if you're offensively minded who do you want to play big minutes with to win a title?

Rajon Rondo and the other unselfish Celtics or Kobe Bryant?

Can anyone say Grant Hill, Bonzi Wells or Beno Udrih?

I have logical problem with this argument. Are you saying Rondo will be as good as some of the better PG in this league? Can you give me some example of the "better PG" that you are talking about? Who are you compare Rondo to?

[soap07]

I have logical problem with this argument. Are you saying Rondo will be as good as some of the better PG in this league? Can you give me some example of the "better PG" that you are talking about? Who are you compare Rondo to?


Rondo has the ceiling of Tony Parker for sure. Similar games and starting off his career playing alongside this veteran team will do wonders for his confidence/talent.

[Edgar]

even though it is a little early to think about,




Ainge just needs to ask one question to those FA.


'Who do you want to play with, Kobe or KG?'

That will be depending on the age of the free agent. The young one will want Lakers, the older one will want Celtics.

It will be Kobe, Gasol and Bynum vs KG, PP and Ray.

You are seeing that trend this year already.

  The Lakers window isn't much bigger than the Celts. As soon as Kobe slows down you guys are toast. Bynum and Gasol won't carry you anywhere without him.

Allen is 33, Kobe is 29
KG is 32, Odom is 28
PP is 31, Gasol is 27
Bynum is 20.

The Lakers 3 will the same age as the Celtics 3 four years from now. So you tell me how big is their window?

Kobe turns 30 before Paul turns 31.

Ok, how about Celtics window + 3 years + (whatever impact from Bynum)

If you are going to throw in Bynum, then the C's would include Rondo.  Both of them have the potential to take over as stars, but still have a ways to go.

What my man Chris said

[nickagneta]

even though it is a little early to think about,




Ainge just needs to ask one question to those FA.


'Who do you want to play with, Kobe or KG?'

That will be depending on the age of the free agent. The young one will want Lakers, the older one will want Celtics.

It will be Kobe, Gasol and Bynum vs KG, PP and Ray.

You are seeing that trend this year already.

  The Lakers window isn't much bigger than the Celts. As soon as Kobe slows down you guys are toast. Bynum and Gasol won't carry you anywhere without him.

Allen is 33, Kobe is 29
KG is 32, Odom is 28
PP is 31, Gasol is 27
Bynum is 20.

The Lakers 3 will the same age as the Celtics 3 four years from now. So you tell me how big is their window?

I think you're leaving out a very important part of the equation.

Rajon Rondo  22

The thought of playing with a PG that might be one of the better PGs in the league in a year or two might be pretty intriguing for a veteran scorer that hasn't gotten a ring yet. A veteran scorer off the bench would be a very valuable commodity to both teams and if you're offensively minded who do you want to play big minutes with to win a title?

Rajon Rondo and the other unselfish Celtics or Kobe Bryant?

Can anyone say Grant Hill, Bonzi Wells or Beno Udrih?

I have logical problem with this argument. Are you saying Rondo will be as good as some of the better PG in this league? Can you give me some example of the "better PG" that you are talking about? Who are you compare Rondo to?

As of right now these PGs are better than Rondo:

Nash
Paul
Williams
Billups
Kidd
Parker
Davis
Miller
Arenas
Iverson
Calderon - maybe but I don't think so.
Felton - maybe but I don't think so.

By the end of next year, or the year after, there are only three players on that list I would want running my club rather than Rondo, that being Williams, Parker and Paul. By that time he will have a ton of playoff experience, possibly a ring or two, be the best defensive PG in the league and be an excellent floor general that will be one of the best if not the best rebounding point guards in the league. And only 24 years old.

That's what I mean by one of the better PGs in the league. Argue otherwise, but he is already among the top 3 defensive and rebounding PGs in the league and at 22 is averaging 10.7 PPG, 4.2 RPG, 6.6 APG 1.71 STLPG in the playoffs and out of players that have played more than 1 series, he has the 3rd best AST/TO Ratio at 3.48. That last # is not just PGs, its all players.

These #'s are by a 22 year old PG in the pressure packed situations of the playoffs(ECF and Finals included). If he can perform at that level in the playoffs at 22, what do you think his ceiling will be later on?

[BudweiserCeltic]

I'd remove Kidd, he wasn't himself last year and I think he's on a downward spiral.

I might add TJ Ford. But Calderon at the moment is indeed better than Rondo, he was clearly a top PG this year who might've been snubbed from the All-Star team.


Rondo is not that good yet running an offense, that's his next step of improvement, and he has to learn to defend better, even though he's a better defender than most on the list.

[wdleehi]

even though it is a little early to think about,




Ainge just needs to ask one question to those FA.


'Who do you want to play with, Kobe or KG?'

That will be depending on the age of the free agent. The young one will want Lakers, the older one will want Celtics.

It will be Kobe, Gasol and Bynum vs KG, PP and Ray.

You are seeing that trend this year already.

  The Lakers window isn't much bigger than the Celts. As soon as Kobe slows down you guys are toast. Bynum and Gasol won't carry you anywhere without him.

Allen is 33, Kobe is 29
KG is 32, Odom is 28
PP is 31, Gasol is 27
Bynum is 20.

The Lakers 3 will the same age as the Celtics 3 four years from now. So you tell me how big is their window?

I think you're leaving out a very important part of the equation.

Rajon Rondo  22

The thought of playing with a PG that might be one of the better PGs in the league in a year or two might be pretty intriguing for a veteran scorer that hasn't gotten a ring yet. A veteran scorer off the bench would be a very valuable commodity to both teams and if you're offensively minded who do you want to play big minutes with to win a title?

Rajon Rondo and the other unselfish Celtics or Kobe Bryant?

Can anyone say Grant Hill, Bonzi Wells or Beno Udrih?

I have logical problem with this argument. Are you saying Rondo will be as good as some of the better PG in this league? Can you give me some example of the "better PG" that you are talking about? Who are you compare Rondo to?

As of right now these PGs are better than Rondo:

Nash
Paul
Williams
Billups
Kidd
Parker
Davis
Miller
Arenas
Iverson
Calderon - maybe but I don't think so.
Felton - maybe but I don't think so.

By the end of next year, or the year after, there are only three players on that list I would want running my club rather than Rondo, that being Williams, Parker and Paul. By that time he will have a ton of playoff experience, possibly a ring or two, be the best defensive PG in the league and be an excellent floor general that will be one of the best if not the best rebounding point guards in the league. And only 24 years old.

That's what I mean by one of the better PGs in the league. Argue otherwise, but he is already among the top 3 defensive and rebounding PGs in the league and at 22 is averaging 10.7 PPG, 4.2 RPG, 6.6 APG 1.71 STLPG in the playoffs and out of players that have played more than 1 series, he has the 3rd best AST/TO Ratio at 3.48. That last # is not just PGs, its all players.

These #'s are by a 22 year old PG in the pressure packed situations of the playoffs(ECF and Finals included). If he can perform at that level in the playoffs at 22, what do you think his ceiling will be later on?

2 of them are SGs as well.