Cassell and Celtics Rotations

[WedmanIsMyHero]

Has anyone heard anything explaining why Cassell played over House?  Cassell was really forcing shots and not really playing in the offensive flow.  I realize he hit some shots, but they seemed of the forced variety.

It is not clear to me that the NBA Finals is a time to experiment with lineups.  I put that mildly. . .but seriously -- is the NBA finals really when you want to experiment with rotations?!?!?!  I guess the question is whether Perkins was playing SO poorly that you need Brown and Powe out there at the same time.

Regardless, I think the Brown/Powe/Cassell lineup combination is not a great one, especially when one of the other players on the court is Posey, as opposed to playing both Pierce and Allen with them.  Even if Cassell hit a few shots in game 1, it is a disaster waiting to happen. 

Unfortunately, I worry that the problems this particular rotation could cause were masked by Paul Pierce's amazing recovery (that is another serious issue for Game 2, but that is for another thread).

Go Celtics!

[kw10]

I'm also wondering why is KG playing only 40 minutes instead of nearly 45? This is the finals isn't it, but I'm happy with the minutes as long as the Celtics win.

[guava_wrench]

This thread is ridiculous.

It has been pretty well publicized that KG burns quickly. His intensity makes him wear out. I also seems incredibly silly to talk about the # of minutes. that stat in itself means nothing. We were actually +2 with KG on the bench, Why would you waste the energy to get upset of this? Stop trying so hard to find something to complain about.

Considering Cassell carried us for a few minutes in the second half and abused Fisher in the worst way, repeatedly backing him down, it is also pretty silly to cry over his minutes.

This all goes back to was Doc said - 'backup quarterback'.

[wdleehi]

Cassell is in there because he is the one with final's experience.




The problem was, once Cassell established himself as a low post threat agaist the Laker's PGs, they put Kobe on him.


Celtics need to find the guy being guarded by the smaller PG and take advantage of that.


If they don't, they might as well play House.

[noblegreen]

this is a stupid thread and im sick of every trying to "out coach" doc... you cant... you never played or coached on a professional level, both of which doc has done and done well.

just stop with this eddie house over cassell... cassell is a [dang] good point guard throughout his years and is much better than eddie house. offense wasn't the reason the lakers led in the first half... it was  our lack of defense... they put up 51 first half points so this kid on this thread decides to put in eddie house to try to out score them? does anyone have a clue to what the celtics game plan is? its defense and when rondo is out sam is his back up because hes a better defender than house and a better point guard.

enough. just stop. we won game one and its still not good enough for these fans... did you expect to win 4 games and the trophy tonight?

[wdleehi]

this is a stupid thread and im sick of every trying to "out coach" doc... you cant... you never played or coached on a professional level, both of which doc has done and done well.

just stop with this eddie house over cassell... cassell is a [dang] good point guard throughout his years and is much better than eddie house. offense wasn't the reason the lakers led in the first half... it was  our lack of defense... they put up 51 first half points so this kid on this thread decides to put in eddie house to try to out score them? does anyone have a clue to what the celtics game plan is? its defense and when rondo is out sam is his back up because hes a better defender than house and a better point guard.

enough. just stop. we won game one and its still not good enough for these fans... did you expect to win 4 games and the trophy tonight?

The only mention of Doc was someone bringing up a quote.


What are you reading?




And this is what we do on this site.  We talk about the good.  We talk about the bad.

And either way, we talk about how they can play better moving forward.

[noblegreen]

when someone starts a thread "why is cassell playing more minutes than house" thats a shot at doc and criticism im sick of because its wrong. house is not better than cassell not in anyway except three point shooting.  and the last time i checked u play basketball well by playing good d and taking high percentage shots...

so when someone questions minutes and rotations they are questioning doc... are they not?

and these forums are a bunch of whining people who dont know the game all that well and just take jabs at doc... even if he wins the ring most will still hate.

boston is never satisfied.

[Brickowski]

I wouldn't play Cassell over House even though Sam made some shots last night and actually took a charge.  The offense stagnates when he's in the game.  And yes, that's a criticism of Rivers and his rotations. 

[wdleehi]

when someone starts a thread "why is cassell playing more minutes than house" thats a shot at doc and criticism im sick of because its wrong. house is not better than cassell not in anyway except three point shooting.  and the last time i checked u play basketball well by playing good d and taking high percentage shots...

so when someone questions minutes and rotations they are questioning doc... are they not?

and these forums are a bunch of whining people who dont know the game all that well and just take jabs at doc... even if he wins the ring most will still hate.

boston is never satisfied.

The only person that seems angry and upset is you. 

You are whining that posters are doing what we always do, talking about the game and what we want to see going forward. 

[WedmanIsMyHero]

With all due respect, I don't think there is anything wrong with asking questions and trying to figure out why particular decisions get made.  It doesn't mean Boston fans are never satisfied, it means Boston fans have the passion and knowledge to try and learn as much as they can about the game and how it works.

Besides, that is more or less why this blog exists.

when someone starts a thread "why is cassell playing more minutes than house" thats a shot at doc and criticism im sick of because its wrong. house is not better than cassell not in anyway except three point shooting.  and the last time i checked u play basketball well by playing good d and taking high percentage shots...

so when someone questions minutes and rotations they are questioning doc... are they not?

and these forums are a bunch of whining people who dont know the game all that well and just take jabs at doc... even if he wins the ring most will still hate.

boston is never satisfied.

[winsomme]

Cassell is in there because he is the one with final's experience.




The problem was, once Cassell established himself as a low post threat agaist the Laker's PGs, they put Kobe on him.


Celtics need to find the guy being guarded by the smaller PG and take advantage of that.


If they don't, they might as well play House.

if putting Cassell in the game forces such a drastic move for Jackson like putting Kobe on him, then that is probably reason enough to play him.

that being said, i wouldn't be surprised to see Eddie at some point in the series. as we know, when he gets hot, he can be electric out there.

[wdleehi]

Cassell is in there because he is the one with final's experience.




The problem was, once Cassell established himself as a low post threat agaist the Laker's PGs, they put Kobe on him.


Celtics need to find the guy being guarded by the smaller PG and take advantage of that.


If they don't, they might as well play House.

if putting Cassell in the game forces such a drastic move for Jackson like putting Kobe on him, then that is probably reason enough to play him.

that being said, i wouldn't be surprised to see Eddie at some point in the series. as we know, when he gets hot, he can be electric out there.

Kobe on Cassell could be good for the Celtics if the Celtics take advantage of the PG guarding Pierce, Ray or Posey.  They didn't do that in this game. 

[Roy Hobbs]

Enough with the "stupid thread" and "ridiculous thread" talk.  Such behavior is inappropriate.  You can disagree with other posters without insulting their mental acumen.

If you think the rotations were solid, say so.  If you think Sam should get minutes over Eddie, explain why.  If you like KG's minutes where they were last night, shed light on your reasoning.  You're all capable of that.  The "stupid" type comments are purely gratuitous borderline personal attacks, and they certainly don't foster intelligent dialog.

[winsomme]

Cassell is in there because he is the one with final's experience.




The problem was, once Cassell established himself as a low post threat agaist the Laker's PGs, they put Kobe on him.


Celtics need to find the guy being guarded by the smaller PG and take advantage of that.


If they don't, they might as well play House.

if putting Cassell in the game forces such a drastic move for Jackson like putting Kobe on him, then that is probably reason enough to play him.

that being said, i wouldn't be surprised to see Eddie at some point in the series. as we know, when he gets hot, he can be electric out there.

Kobe on Cassell could be good for the Celtics if the Celtics take advantage of the PG guarding Pierce, Ray or Posey.  They didn't do that in this game. 

i'd have to go back and look to see how much the Cs took advantage of it, but even from just a psychological standpoint when a team takes the league MVP off of his man to play the other team's backup PG, i would say that you have already taken some adavantage...

[kozlodoev]

Celtics need to find the guy being guarded by the smaller PG and take advantage of that.

OTOH, when Kobe is guarding Cassell, he's not guarding Ray Allen or Pierce. That's called 'taking advantage' in my book.