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Re: Hey Lakers fan
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2008, 09:53:29 AM »

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And yes, honestly, I believe the Lakers are the best team in the NBA right now.  They are the team to most likely win the Championship, I admit that.  I make an effort to be objective, because I appreciate good basketball more than I am a team fan

Blah.  You can be "objective" and still think the team with home court advantage, the best team defense in years, and the best record in the NBA will prevail.

Celtic had the best team defense all year until they hit the playoff. They are NOT even the best defensive team in the playoff. Lakers is. Look at opponent FG%, 3FG% and more important, opponent FT attempts.

Boston is slighty better than the Lakers in opponent FG%, almost identical in 3FG% and terrible in opponent FT attempts.

The main advantage for Boston is not defense, but rebounding.

Lakers have advantage in defense, especially playing defense without foul and shot blocking.



What???

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/teamstats?sort=defeff&seasonType=3&league=nba

1) Celtics
5) Lakers

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/statistics?stat=teamstatoff&sort=fg%&league=nba&season=2008&seasontype=3&avg=pg&order=false&split=999

FG%
1)  Celtics 42.15 %
6) lakers 43.34%





Celtics are the number 1 defense in the playoffs.  Allow the least amount of points.  Allow the lowest shooting %.  Is the most efficient defense.  Out rebounds the opponents. 


Boston has a big advantage on defense.


The Lakers have nightmare matchup in Pierce.  They have struggled to stop KG. 

I asked you (Celtics fans) to look at 3 numbers:

Opponent FG%, Celtics is ahead,
Opponent 3FG%, it is different by 1000 of a point.
Opponent FT attempts, this is where the Lakers had a huge advantage.

Also look at shot blocking and steal, Lakers has advantage in shot blocking and Celtic has advantage in steal. It is also against conventional Celtics wisdom.



So you only wanted us to look at the numbers that make it seem somewhat close instead of all the numbers?  If there is one thing that almost everyone looking at this series should agree on it's that the Celtics overall defense is better than the Lakers.
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Re: Hey Lakers fan
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2008, 10:01:28 AM »

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Yeah, I know you guys are lurking around here.   :)

I've got some questions and an opinion for you. 

1)  Bynum.  Best case scenario, what do you think of this guy's potential?  My opinion, he is Kendrick Perkins with much better offense.  Is that accurate?  Have you considered the possibility that his injury might have caused permanent damage to his mobility?

2)  Let's say Kobe gets hurt in the series.  Who would take up the leadership and carry the team to victory?  Who can step up and get the job done for the Lakers?

Ok, here is where I believe Boston has the advantage.  And yes, honestly, I believe the Lakers are the best team in the NBA right now.  They are the team to most likely win the Championship, I admit that.  I make an effort to be objective, because I appreciate good basketball more than I am a team fan. A fan of basketball first, and then secondly, a Boston fan describes what I am.  But Boston has one big advantage that no one has mentioned, that I know of.  If Kobe were to go down, the Lakers will not win the Championship.  He is the undisputed leader of that team.  Gasol and Odom are stars in their own right, but they seem to be the types who would need a leader, rather than be the leader.  On the other hand, Boston's roster have guys who have the maturity and experience to be able to take up the leadership role, should anything happen to Paul Pierce.  Ofcourse, that is a "contingent" advantage and will only play out if Kobe or Pierce were to get hurt during the series. 

Your thoughts?

Not a great "lurker" myself - I will make my presence known when the occasion is worthwhile.

Bynum.  In my opinion, a very high untapped potential to learn and develop.  Health permitting he could be the dominant classical Center in the League, Howard or no Howard.  This guy is real young, and apparently a quick study from all I gather.  Yes, there are endless conversations in Lakerland about whether or not this injury situation is just a blip, or the harbinger of constant knee problems.  It would seem that there is something not exactly right in the structural kinetics of his knees ever since a young'n.  So, we will just have to see.  My take, if he comes back in good shape, then some tough decisions will have to be made.  I have my doubts that we might see anything like the fabulous Celtic frontlines of Maxwell/McHale-Parrish-Bird, but I am sure that experimentations will be made with Gasol-Bynum-Odom - if that worked it would be pretty formidable.  My sense is that there will probably be compatibility problems, and that they may form two starting units according to whoever the opponent is on a given night, or alternatively, Bynum starts, and Gasol is the centerpiece of a rather potent second unit.  Who knows - all conjecture at this point without knowing Bynum's medical state.  Certainly, there are quite a few fans of other fanbases coming on the Laker sites, to help us out apparently, suggesting that he should be traded, and that we don't have any use for him.  Bless their hearts for thinking of us!

If Kobe goes down, Boston wins.  There is no use of going into any type of in-depth analysis.  There is much fear on Laker blogs that past historic events may rear their ugly heads again, against Kobe.  

You are very kind to say you think that Los Angeles is the better.  I am such an old-time basketball fan that I like to see things played out.  Barring incompetent arbitration, barring injuries to key players, then we just have to see this thing played out.  Both these squads have their strengths and weaknesses.  I would not be surprised at the victory of either of them.  It all depends on who is able with more continuity to execute their defensive, and offensive game plans.  These two teams are pretty obviously the cream of their respective conferences.  It is only fitting the renewal of the rivalry of our two historic franchises.  

"Once more into the breach, dear friends, once more"

As a sportman I wish good luck to both camps.  The better team will be determined on the court, and not in any of the flights of hyperbolic fantasy that is now swirling around this series by the media outlets of occasional fandom.

Re: Hey Lakers fan
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2008, 10:05:22 AM »

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Yeah, I know you guys are lurking around here.   :)

I've got some questions and an opinion for you. 

1)  Bynum.  Best case scenario, what do you think of this guy's potential?  My opinion, he is Kendrick Perkins with much better offense.  Is that accurate?  Have you considered the possibility that his injury might have caused permanent damage to his mobility?

2)  Let's say Kobe gets hurt in the series.  Who would take up the leadership and carry the team to victory?  Who can step up and get the job done for the Lakers?

Ok, here is where I believe Boston has the advantage.  And yes, honestly, I believe the Lakers are the best team in the NBA right now.  They are the team to most likely win the Championship, I admit that.  I make an effort to be objective, because I appreciate good basketball more than I am a team fan. A fan of basketball first, and then secondly, a Boston fan describes what I am.  But Boston has one big advantage that no one has mentioned, that I know of.  If Kobe were to go down, the Lakers will not win the Championship.  He is the undisputed leader of that team.  Gasol and Odom are stars in their own right, but they seem to be the types who would need a leader, rather than be the leader.  On the other hand, Boston's roster have guys who have the maturity and experience to be able to take up the leadership role, should anything happen to Paul Pierce.  Ofcourse, that is a "contingent" advantage and will only play out if Kobe or Pierce were to get hurt during the series. 

Your thoughts?

Not a great "lurker" myself - I will make my presence known when the occasion is worthwhile.

Bynum.  In my opinion, a very high untapped potential to learn and develop.  Health permitting he could be the dominant classical Center in the League, Howard or no Howard.  This guy is real young, and apparently a quick study from all I gather.  Yes, there are endless conversations in Lakerland about whether or not this injury situation is just a blip, or the harbinger of constant knee problems.  It would seem that there is something not exactly right in the structural kinetics of his knees ever since a young'n.  So, we will just have to see.  My take, if he comes back in good shape, then some tough decisions will have to be made.  I have my doubts that we might see anything like the fabulous Celtic frontlines of Maxwell/McHale-Parrish-Bird, but I am sure that experimentations will be made with Gasol-Bynum-Odom - if that worked it would be pretty formidable.  My sense is that there will probably be compatibility problems, and that they may form two starting units according to whoever the opponent is on a given night, or alternatively, Bynum starts, and Gasol is the centerpiece of a rather potent second unit.  Who knows - all conjecture at this point without knowing Bynum's medical state.  Certainly, there are quite a few fans of other fanbases coming on the Laker sites, to help us out apparently, suggesting that he should be traded, and that we don't have any use for him.  Bless their hearts for thinking of us!

If Kobe goes down, Boston wins.  There is no use of going into any type of in-depth analysis.  There is much fear on Laker blogs that past historic events may rear their ugly heads again, against Kobe.  

You are very kind to say you think that Los Angeles is the better.  I am such an old-time basketball fan that I like to see things played out.  Barring incompetent arbitration, barring injuries to key players, then we just have to see this thing played out.  Both these squads have their strengths and weaknesses.  I would not be surprised at the victory of either of them.  It all depends on who is able with more continuity to execute their defensive, and offensive game plans.  These two teams are pretty obviously the cream of their respective conferences.  It is only fitting the renewal of the rivalry of our two historic franchises.  

"Once more into the breach, dear friends, once more"

As a sportman I wish good luck to both camps.  The better team will be determined on the court, and not in any of the flights of hyperbolic fantasy that is now swirling around this series by the media outlets of occasional fandom.
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Re: Hey Lakers fan
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2008, 10:08:36 AM »

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Celtics defense is the most efficient in the playoffs. (Not true)

Celtics have the better defense.  (Not true)

I wrote the following in a Lakers forum regarding the Celtics defense (Warning: very long):

http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=65570

I welcome your comment.

Points per shot don't really matter; it's points per possession, whether that possession ends in a shot, a turnover, or whatever.

Here are the post-season Defensive Efficiency (pts per 100 possessions) numbers for both Boston and LA:

Boston: 99.4 pts allowed per 100 possessions

Los Angeles: 103.1 pts allowed per 100 possessions

Link

Boston is first overall in FG% against, eFG% against, and points allowed.  They are second in 3PT% allowed, and they are better than the Lakers in rebound rate.  They're a better defense, and it's really not questionable.

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Re: Hey Lakers fan
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2008, 10:36:39 AM »

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Celtics defense is the most efficient in the playoffs. (Not true)

Celtics have the better defense.  (Not true)

I wrote the following in a Lakers forum regarding the Celtics defense (Warning: very long):

http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=65570

I welcome your comment.

Points per shot don't really matter; it's points per possession, whether that possession ends in a shot, a turnover, or whatever.

Here are the post-season Defensive Efficiency (pts per 100 possessions) numbers for both Boston and LA:

Boston: 99.4 pts allowed per 100 possessions

Los Angeles: 103.1 pts allowed per 100 possessions

Link

Boston is first overall in FG% against, eFG% against, and points allowed.  They are second in 3PT% allowed, and they are better than the Lakers in rebound rate.  They're a better defense, and it's really not questionable.

You are right. I stand corrected.

Re: Hey Lakers fan
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2008, 10:46:07 AM »

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You are right. I stand corrected.

No problem.  The funny thing is how close these two teams are in terms of efficiency.

Defensive efficiency: 99.4 Boston, 103.1 L.A.  Advantage: Boston -3.7
Offensive efficiency: 105.2 Boston, 109.0 L.A.  Advantage: L.A. +3.8

Net advantage: L.A., 0.1 points per 100 possessions

Wow.  Talk about a dead heat.  Obviously, you have to look at the different opponents they've been playing, but the numbers are still very close.

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Re: Hey Lakers fan
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2008, 11:06:29 AM »

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2)  Let's say Kobe gets hurt in the series.

Enter Scals and his best Kevin McHale impersonation  ;)

Nah, seriously.
I want all the Lakers to be healthy, that way victory
will be much sweeter!

Re: Hey Lakers fan
« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2008, 12:51:48 PM »

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Yeah, I know you guys are lurking around here.   :)

I've got some questions and an opinion for you. 

1)  Bynum.  Best case scenario, what do you think of this guy's potential?  My opinion, he is Kendrick Perkins with much better offense.  Is that accurate?  Have you considered the possibility that his injury might have caused permanent damage to his mobility?

2)  Let's say Kobe gets hurt in the series.  Who would take up the leadership and carry the team to victory?  Who can step up and get the job done for the Lakers?

Ok, here is where I believe Boston has the advantage.  And yes, honestly, I believe the Lakers are the best team in the NBA right now.  They are the team to most likely win the Championship, I admit that.  I make an effort to be objective, because I appreciate good basketball more than I am a team fan. A fan of basketball first, and then secondly, a Boston fan describes what I am.  But Boston has one big advantage that no one has mentioned, that I know of.  If Kobe were to go down, the Lakers will not win the Championship.  He is the undisputed leader of that team.  Gasol and Odom are stars in their own right, but they seem to be the types who would need a leader, rather than be the leader.  On the other hand, Boston's roster have guys who have the maturity and experience to be able to take up the leadership role, should anything happen to Paul Pierce.  Ofcourse, that is a "contingent" advantage and will only play out if Kobe or Pierce were to get hurt during the series. 

Your thoughts?

Laker fan lurker here and I will answer your questions since only one other actually answered your question and the rest of you guys went a on tirade on why Boston will win.

1.  Bynum.....Very raw potential, a great but BIG question mark.  We really have no idea what this guy can be and especially with the injury that was only supposed to be 8 weeks, now turning into 8 months.  At best I see Bynum as a solid center, probably in the mold of the all star Big Z year; averaging 18/10.  I DO NOT see Bynum the next Shaq, Dhoward, Yao, type which are dominating, 1st option scoring machines.  He is more like a 2nd/3rd option defensive anchor.  At worst, we do not know the extent of his knee injury and how he will recover, for all we know he could be like McDyess after his knee injury, a shadow of his former self.

2.  If kobe gets hurt, the series is over for LA.  Kobe does so many things for this team; scoring, defense, mental toughness, leadership, act as decoy, get open guys shots, when to dominate, etc.  He just brings so much to the team that there is no way a Gasol and Odom led team will be able to beat Boston.  The difference between Pierce or Kobe going down is that you have a legitimate MVP, hall of famer who is a leader to take over.  We have Gasol, one all star year and years of mediocrity and Odom who has never lived up to his potential.

Re: Hey Lakers fan
« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2008, 01:22:54 PM »

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Yeah, I know you guys are lurking around here.   :)

I've got some questions and an opinion for you. 

1)  Bynum.  Best case scenario, what do you think of this guy's potential?  My opinion, he is Kendrick Perkins with much better offense.  Is that accurate?  Have you considered the possibility that his injury might have caused permanent damage to his mobility?

2)  Let's say Kobe gets hurt in the series.  Who would take up the leadership and carry the team to victory?  Who can step up and get the job done for the Lakers?

Ok, here is where I believe Boston has the advantage.  And yes, honestly, I believe the Lakers are the best team in the NBA right now.  They are the team to most likely win the Championship, I admit that.  I make an effort to be objective, because I appreciate good basketball more than I am a team fan. A fan of basketball first, and then secondly, a Boston fan describes what I am.  But Boston has one big advantage that no one has mentioned, that I know of.  If Kobe were to go down, the Lakers will not win the Championship.  He is the undisputed leader of that team.  Gasol and Odom are stars in their own right, but they seem to be the types who would need a leader, rather than be the leader.  On the other hand, Boston's roster have guys who have the maturity and experience to be able to take up the leadership role, should anything happen to Paul Pierce.  Ofcourse, that is a "contingent" advantage and will only play out if Kobe or Pierce were to get hurt during the series. 

Your thoughts?

I am not sure what lurking means.  I have been here commenting for a few days.  Does lurking mean watching but not commenting?  Whatever, anyway I will take a stab at the questions.

Bynum's best case scenario is Hall of Fame.  I think someone compared him to Big Z, but you said best case scenario and that would not be out of the question.  He is a legitimate 7'-0" 278 to 285 lbs.  He has great footwork, great vertical, good shot, (working on hookshot with Kareem), and he makes his freethrows.  The kid is only 20 and will still be twenty on opening day next year (his 4th season).  Unfortunately only Laker fans (for the most part) got to see the incredible improvement this kid had before he went down with the knee injury.  It was unbelievable.  He was dominating the opposing center each and every game.  Seriously.  And he was only playing 25-30 minutes per game.  A typical game soon before his injury was something like 18/15/4 blocks in 29 min.  And the opposing center was usually way below his typical game.  Duncan's worst game of the year was against Bynum, but that could just be coincidence.  I don't have the time or inclination to do the research, but if you checked out the box scores of his last 15 games you would see what I mean.

Unfortunately no one knows how the injury issue will play out.  The news is that he will be ready and 100% by next season, but knees and 300 lbs. don't go well together.  The interesting question will be about his contract.  He would probably have been signed to a max. contract this summer without the injury although his current contract is still good until after next season.  Would you pay a guy max. money on potential?  Time will tell.

If Kobe gets hurt, the series is over. Period.

I don't honestly know who I think is going to win this series.  I think anyone who is positive of the outcome is just fooling themselves.  There are just too many variables.  It bothers me that the media seems to be picking the Lakers as it is obviously easier to be the underdog.  I think you guys are underestimating the Lakers and we are underestimating the Celtics.  It is a mistake for Laker fans to look at your poor post-season record as an example of how this series will go.  I would chalk it up to complacency.  I would not expect complacency in the Finals.  I also think it is a mistake for Celtic fans to assume you will see the same Laker team that you saw in Nov. and Dec.  It is just not the case.  The Lakers are a completely different team now.  AND NO I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT PAU!!!  Sorry for the all caps, but this seems to be a misnomer.  The Lakers are just playing a completely different style of basketball since the trade, but that change extends to each player/position, not just Center.

Anyway I expect a great series and LETS GET IT STARTED ALREADY!!!!

Re: Hey Lakers fan
« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2008, 01:40:05 PM »

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Yeah, I know you guys are lurking around here.   :)

I've got some questions and an opinion for you. 

1)  Bynum.  Best case scenario, what do you think of this guy's potential?  My opinion, he is Kendrick Perkins with much better offense.  Is that accurate?  Have you considered the possibility that his injury might have caused permanent damage to his mobility?

2)  Let's say Kobe gets hurt in the series.  Who would take up the leadership and carry the team to victory?  Who can step up and get the job done for the Lakers?

Ok, here is where I believe Boston has the advantage.  And yes, honestly, I believe the Lakers are the best team in the NBA right now.  They are the team to most likely win the Championship, I admit that.  I make an effort to be objective, because I appreciate good basketball more than I am a team fan. A fan of basketball first, and then secondly, a Boston fan describes what I am.  But Boston has one big advantage that no one has mentioned, that I know of.  If Kobe were to go down, the Lakers will not win the Championship.  He is the undisputed leader of that team.  Gasol and Odom are stars in their own right, but they seem to be the types who would need a leader, rather than be the leader.  On the other hand, Boston's roster have guys who have the maturity and experience to be able to take up the leadership role, should anything happen to Paul Pierce.  Ofcourse, that is a "contingent" advantage and will only play out if Kobe or Pierce were to get hurt during the series. 

Your thoughts?

I am not sure what lurking means.  I have been here commenting for a few days.  Does lurking mean watching but not commenting?  Whatever, anyway I will take a stab at the questions.

Bynum's best case scenario is Hall of Fame.  I think someone compared him to Big Z, but you said best case scenario and that would not be out of the question.  He is a legitimate 7'-0" 278 to 285 lbs.  He has great footwork, great vertical, good shot, (working on hookshot with Kareem), and he makes his freethrows.  The kid is only 20 and will still be twenty on opening day next year (his 4th season).  Unfortunately only Laker fans (for the most part) got to see the incredible improvement this kid had before he went down with the knee injury.  It was unbelievable.  He was dominating the opposing center each and every game.  Seriously.  And he was only playing 25-30 minutes per game.  A typical game soon before his injury was something like 18/15/4 blocks in 29 min.  And the opposing center was usually way below his typical game.  Duncan's worst game of the year was against Bynum, but that could just be coincidence.  I don't have the time or inclination to do the research, but if you checked out the box scores of his last 15 games you would see what I mean.

Unfortunately no one knows how the injury issue will play out.  The news is that he will be ready and 100% by next season, but knees and 300 lbs. don't go well together.  The interesting question will be about his contract.  He would probably have been signed to a max. contract this summer without the injury although his current contract is still good until after next season.  Would you pay a guy max. money on potential?  Time will tell.

If Kobe gets hurt, the series is over. Period.

I don't honestly know who I think is going to win this series.  I think anyone who is positive of the outcome is just fooling themselves.  There are just too many variables.  It bothers me that the media seems to be picking the Lakers as it is obviously easier to be the underdog.  I think you guys are underestimating the Lakers and we are underestimating the Celtics.  It is a mistake for Laker fans to look at your poor post-season record as an example of how this series will go.  I would chalk it up to complacency.  I would not expect complacency in the Finals.  I also think it is a mistake for Celtic fans to assume you will see the same Laker team that you saw in Nov. and Dec.  It is just not the case.  The Lakers are a completely different team now.  AND NO I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT PAU!!!  Sorry for the all caps, but this seems to be a misnomer.  The Lakers are just playing a completely different style of basketball since the trade, but that change extends to each player/position, not just Center.

Anyway I expect a great series and LETS GET IT STARTED ALREADY!!!!

Excellent post PS.  I have been following Bynum's progress closely his whole career and you're dead on.

I also agree both teams fans are underestimating the other's, and probably more to the point puffing up their teams.  And you know what, they both should.  They've both had great seasons and both have every reason to expect their teams to win.  There are a lot of things going into making this a great matchup, but I think the most intriguing is how different these teams are from each other and how each others strengths and weaknesses seem to cancel each other out.

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Re: Hey Lakers fan
« Reply #25 on: June 04, 2008, 02:05:02 PM »

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Yeah, I know you guys are lurking around here.   :)

I've got some questions and an opinion for you. 

1)  Bynum.  Best case scenario, what do you think of this guy's potential?  My opinion, he is Kendrick Perkins with much better offense.  Is that accurate?  Have you considered the possibility that his injury might have caused permanent damage to his mobility?

2)  Let's say Kobe gets hurt in the series.  Who would take up the leadership and carry the team to victory?  Who can step up and get the job done for the Lakers?

Ok, here is where I believe Boston has the advantage.  And yes, honestly, I believe the Lakers are the best team in the NBA right now.  They are the team to most likely win the Championship, I admit that.  I make an effort to be objective, because I appreciate good basketball more than I am a team fan. A fan of basketball first, and then secondly, a Boston fan describes what I am.  But Boston has one big advantage that no one has mentioned, that I know of.  If Kobe were to go down, the Lakers will not win the Championship.  He is the undisputed leader of that team.  Gasol and Odom are stars in their own right, but they seem to be the types who would need a leader, rather than be the leader.  On the other hand, Boston's roster have guys who have the maturity and experience to be able to take up the leadership role, should anything happen to Paul Pierce.  Ofcourse, that is a "contingent" advantage and will only play out if Kobe or Pierce were to get hurt during the series. 

Your thoughts?

I am not sure what lurking means.  I have been here commenting for a few days.  Does lurking mean watching but not commenting?  Whatever, anyway I will take a stab at the questions.

Bynum's best case scenario is Hall of Fame.  I think someone compared him to Big Z, but you said best case scenario and that would not be out of the question.  He is a legitimate 7'-0" 278 to 285 lbs.  He has great footwork, great vertical, good shot, (working on hookshot with Kareem), and he makes his freethrows.  The kid is only 20 and will still be twenty on opening day next year (his 4th season).  Unfortunately only Laker fans (for the most part) got to see the incredible improvement this kid had before he went down with the knee injury.  It was unbelievable.  He was dominating the opposing center each and every game.  Seriously.  And he was only playing 25-30 minutes per game.  A typical game soon before his injury was something like 18/15/4 blocks in 29 min.  And the opposing center was usually way below his typical game.  Duncan's worst game of the year was against Bynum, but that could just be coincidence.  I don't have the time or inclination to do the research, but if you checked out the box scores of his last 15 games you would see what I mean.

Unfortunately no one knows how the injury issue will play out.  The news is that he will be ready and 100% by next season, but knees and 300 lbs. don't go well together.  The interesting question will be about his contract.  He would probably have been signed to a max. contract this summer without the injury although his current contract is still good until after next season.  Would you pay a guy max. money on potential?  Time will tell.

If Kobe gets hurt, the series is over. Period.

I don't honestly know who I think is going to win this series.  I think anyone who is positive of the outcome is just fooling themselves.  There are just too many variables.  It bothers me that the media seems to be picking the Lakers as it is obviously easier to be the underdog.  I think you guys are underestimating the Lakers and we are underestimating the Celtics.  It is a mistake for Laker fans to look at your poor post-season record as an example of how this series will go.  I would chalk it up to complacency.  I would not expect complacency in the Finals.  I also think it is a mistake for Celtic fans to assume you will see the same Laker team that you saw in Nov. and Dec.  It is just not the case.  The Lakers are a completely different team now.  AND NO I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT PAU!!!  Sorry for the all caps, but this seems to be a misnomer.  The Lakers are just playing a completely different style of basketball since the trade, but that change extends to each player/position, not just Center.

Anyway I expect a great series and LETS GET IT STARTED ALREADY!!!!

Excellent post PS.  I have been following Bynum's progress closely his whole career and you're dead on.

I also agree both teams fans are underestimating the other's, and probably more to the point puffing up their teams.  And you know what, they both should.  They've both had great seasons and both have every reason to expect their teams to win.  There are a lot of things going into making this a great matchup, but I think the most intriguing is how different these teams are from each other and how each others strengths and weaknesses seem to cancel each other out.

Buy, yes, let's start the [dang] thing already!

Thanks for the reply.  I came up with a new term to describe this series.  Equally mis-matched.  What do you think.

Re: Hey Lakers fan
« Reply #26 on: June 04, 2008, 03:52:28 PM »

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Barnabas,
Since you asked, and since I was wondering about it myself, I cast around and found what is apparently the most recent news about Bynum and his medical progress.  I am sure it will be of interest also to other Celtic fans, or at least those that like I follow anything pertaining to the players of other teams that must be watched during next year's regular season campaign.

http://lakers.freedomblogging.com/2008/06/04/bynum-working-his-way-back/


Re: Hey Lakers fan
« Reply #27 on: June 04, 2008, 04:28:52 PM »

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Thanks for the reply.  I came up with a new term to describe this series.  Equally mis-matched.  What do you think.

Sounds about right.  It could make for an incredibly interesting series or an awfully lopsided one if one is more pronounced than the other.

...sure will be fun to find out
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Re: Hey Lakers fan
« Reply #28 on: June 04, 2008, 05:02:46 PM »

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cuckroller,

Thank you for the link to that update on Bynum.