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Re: No National Media Love / Experts Picking LA
« Reply #90 on: June 01, 2008, 04:32:59 PM »

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Who cares, we've had the quiet confidence throughout the playoff, while the lakers heads have gotten bigger and bigger, i think the c's are gonna make this series less dramatic then people think

Re: No National Media Love / Experts Picking LA
« Reply #91 on: June 01, 2008, 04:34:26 PM »

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Kpbe gets the media love but Id argue that KG will be the dominant player on the court. He has a higher PER and Roland rating, defense poy and was a legit mvp candidate.  Consider also that Paul is 20+ threat pointed right at LA area of weakness.  If they shift Kobe on him, it opens Ray.  Also, the C's will possess as tough a defense as LA has seen in the playoffs.
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Re: No National Media Love / Experts Picking LA
« Reply #92 on: June 01, 2008, 04:34:39 PM »

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When the Celtics were still playing the Cavs, all the experts said that Detroit flipped the switch during game 4 of their series with the Sixers and were unbeatable in the playoffs..... and look what team beat them in 6 ( twice on their floor )..... They said we had no bench during the season and we proved them wrong..... they said team chemistry would be an issue and we proved them wrong...... they said Pierce would be selfish and not get along with the other stars because he was reluctant to share the spotlight and we proved them wrong.......

And like many people said, we can't win on the road during the playoffs and we proved them wrong....

Not to mention that Rondo and Perkins would be our downfall.....

As far as I'm concerned, we've proven everyone wrong..... and besides, San Antonio should have won that series ( game 1 the spurs blew a 20 point lead)... San Antonio had 17+ point leads in 3 games during the Lakers series... ( we've never fallen behind by that much during the playoffs that many times ) and the "no call" on the last shot in game 4..... I don't see how the Lakers are this powerhouse? Do you??

Re: No National Media Love / Experts Picking LA
« Reply #93 on: June 01, 2008, 04:44:20 PM »

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We should be underdogs.  They're playing brilliant basketball right now, they'll have the best player on the floor, and a vastly superior coach.  Plus we have a myriad of matchup issues on the defensive end of the floor.  The hall of fame coach and the transcendent player don't typically lose in the finals (but hey, the did in 04).
Exactly what match-up problems do we have?  Perkins would do fine on Gasol and KG would have his way with Lamar.  And speaking of matchups, who is going to guard KG?  Lamar or Gasol have no chance at all.  And what about PP?  Kobe?  Okay, what about Allen then.  And even if Kobe guard PP, Pierce has always done well. 

That is what gets me about all of the predictions.  It is as if they are only playing on one of the court and that Bos will not go on offense.

Pierce is a huge matchup problem for them, no doubt.  I'm not saying we have no chance, because we do.  We're a very  good team.  I just think they're playing better basketball right now, plus they have one of the greatest players of all time, in his prime and one of the greatest coaches of all time.  If we put KG on Pau then Odom gets to toy with Perk on the perimeter and Pau is going to bring KG out with him, which diminishes our rebounding presence.  I think they'll keep Kobe on Ray and probably put Odom on Pierce.  Let's not forget that Phil Jackson is a vastly superior coach to Doc Rivers.  We can definitely win this thing and 8-0 in favor of the Lakers is a bit much, I just think they have an edge and I understand why they are favored.     

Re: No National Media Love / Experts Picking LA
« Reply #94 on: June 01, 2008, 04:47:27 PM »

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Obviously, predictions mean next to nothing other than as a bellwether of conventional wisdom.

That said, I think there are a few things the "experts" are forgetting to take into account that cause them to underestimate the Celtics:

1.  Defense.  "Defense wins championships," or so it is always said.  The reason for this seems to be that teams often freeze up a bit offensively under the pressure of the playoffs, and the referees allow a lot more contact which is an advantage to the defensive team.  The Celtics clearly come into the series with a reputation as the superior defensive team.  If defense really does win championships, then advantage Celtics.

2.  Paul Pierce in LA.  Pierce is just a beast when he plays in his hometown.  Several realgm posters on the LA page have been openly worrying about Kobe trying to guard Pierce because Pierce has simply had his with Kobe on numerous occasions in the past (he's just too strong).  My gut feeling is that going into this series everyone will be talking about Kobe, but coming out of the series everyone will be talking about Pierce.

3. Vets.  Veteran teams generally have an advantage.  The Spurs faltered because they didn't have the right mix of youth with their vets to handle the speed and athleticism of the Lakers.  I don't think the Celtics will have that problem.  The Celtics have the advantage when it comes to their vets (not just Ray, PP and KG, but Posey and Brown as well), and also have the right mix of youth and athleticism to match the Lakers. 

4.  James Posey.  I think Kobe is going to see a steady diet of James Posey.  Doc will likely use him early and often to back up Ray.  The more Posey plays, and the more he's harrassing Kobe, the better off the Celtics will be.  Also, the Lakers aren't that big/strong up front apart from Gasol, so expect a lot of Posey in the lineup along with the Big 3 and Rondo.  I have liked that lineup in spots all season long against teams without a big size advantage.


I really hope we see the Celtics come out and defensively lockdown the Lakers.  Jumping out to a 2-0 series lead could demoralize this young Lakers team heading back to LA, and I just can't see the Celtics losing a game 6 or 7 in Boston.  The Garden crowd should energize this team and I hope KG will bring his maniacal self and intimidate the hell out of the Lakers. 

Go Celtics!     

Re: No National Media Love / Experts Picking LA
« Reply #95 on: June 01, 2008, 04:47:52 PM »

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  the experts said that Detroit was  unbeatable  They said we had no bench  .... they said team chemistry would be an issue  they said that Rondo and Perkins would be our downfall.....they said they said they said
 

I say, once story lines get established in the MSM they dont go away. Like the one that says Pierce is selfish (thanks, G.Karl) and Garnett is soft (thanks, Simmons). MSM also tends to sucker for stars (Kobe, Lebron), familiar brands (Detroit) and scoring.

Some things the MSM overlooks.  That the C's have the #1 defense. That San Antonio was no longer a defensive juggernaut (and that includes Bowen). That La was not seriously challenged so far. Etc.
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Re: No National Media Love / Experts Picking LA
« Reply #96 on: June 01, 2008, 04:58:18 PM »

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Legler changed his pick to the Celtics in 7.

Didn't they have 8 "experts" to start?  And now it looks like they expanded it to 10.

Also I listened to Chris Brousard on 1050 ESPN radio last night- and he talked about how he's on the fence.  He then basically spoke for 5 minutes about why he thought the Celtics would win it- their toughness, ability to control tempo- and never wound up mentioning why he actually picked the Lakers...

Jalen Rose and Tim Legler were added to the most recent "experts" picks.  You can add Jamaal Mashburn for the Lakers.  He's not on the website but I just saw him on TV and after his analysis he didn't hesitate to pick the Lakers (he wasn't asked in how many games).

Re: No National Media Love / Experts Picking LA
« Reply #97 on: June 01, 2008, 07:22:44 PM »

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We should be underdogs.  They're playing brilliant basketball right now, they'll have the best player on the floor, and a vastly superior coach.  Plus we have a myriad of matchup issues on the defensive end of the floor.  The hall of fame coach and the transcendent player don't typically lose in the finals (but hey, the did in 04).
Exactly what match-up problems do we have?  Perkins would do fine on Gasol and KG would have his way with Lamar.  And speaking of matchups, who is going to guard KG?  Lamar or Gasol have no chance at all.  And what about PP?  Kobe?  Okay, what about Allen then.  And even if Kobe guard PP, Pierce has always done well. 

That is what gets me about all of the predictions.  It is as if they are only playing on one of the court and that Bos will not go on offense.

Pierce is a huge matchup problem for them, no doubt.  I'm not saying we have no chance, because we do.  We're a very  good team.  I just think they're playing better basketball right now, plus they have one of the greatest players of all time, in his prime and one of the greatest coaches of all time.  If we put KG on Pau then Odom gets to toy with Perk on the perimeter and Pau is going to bring KG out with him, which diminishes our rebounding presence.  I think they'll keep Kobe on Ray and probably put Odom on Pierce.  Let's not forget that Phil Jackson is a vastly superior coach to Doc Rivers.  We can definitely win this thing and 8-0 in favor of the Lakers is a bit much, I just think they have an edge and I understand why they are favored.     
You certainly seem to be ignoring the obvious.  We put KP on Gasol and KG of Lamar.  Match up problems solved.  If they take us out to the perimeter, then their big men won't be rebounding either.  Shoot, at that point, Rondo may be the best rebounder left.  And if they put Gasol on KG, what do you think will happen with that match up?

Re: No National Media Love / Experts Picking LA
« Reply #98 on: June 01, 2008, 07:53:31 PM »

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Seriously, I wonder how many of the experts fell for Bill Simmons propoganda in which he said, sorry nobody is beating the Lakers this year.
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Re: No National Media Love / Experts Picking LA
« Reply #99 on: June 02, 2008, 12:02:10 AM »

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"No one thought we could beat the Lakers that year. Absolutely no one. But we believed it within ourselves."
--M.L. Carr on the Celtics' 1984 Title against the Lakers.

I'm from Virginia and I've been a Celtics fan all of my life! Larry Bird was the first celebrity name I ever knew as a child. I bleed Green! This year, I made my first pilgrimage to basketball's holiest cathedral to watch the Celtics at home. Before the game, I had the privilage of meeting M.L. Carr. We spoke for a couple of minutes. Not about today's Celtics but about how me and dad admired him. I had my picture taken with him. Just thought to share that with you.

Well, we're back in the Finals contending for a title for the first time in 21 years! And we're facing our old foe: The Los Angeles Lakers, which is probably the most villainous and one of the most hated (That's right, I said it) sports franchises of all time. On ESPN experts, sports shows, radio shows, Stephen A. Smith are picking the Lakers to win the championship this year. Some in 5 games! As a Celtic, I take offense to this. They're giving the Celtics no credit! None! Since the Hawks Game 3 Loss, it went all but downhill. Even if they predicted a sweep, they gave them no chance against the Detroit Pistons, who was expected to win in six games.

Let's look at the Lakers: Yes, they have Kobe. Yes, they have the best offense. Yes, they can make monster second half comebacks, and yes, we beat them before Pau Gasol. And yes, they defeated the defending Champion Spurs in 5 games (however, Game 4 was an unfair call. If Brent had hit Kobe, it would have been called). Oh yeah, they were the only team to sweep a team in the playoffs. The 50-win Denver Nuggets.
While everyone seems to be ready to go ahead and ice down champane, buy purple and yellow (not gold, yellow!) streamers and hand the Lakers their rings right now, lets analyze the playoffs in the West!

The West was expected to be the bloody battle and the Pistons and our Celtics to easily walk through opponents for an Eastern Conference Slugfest! In fact just the opposite happened. Most of the first round West were easy walkthroughs for the most part. The second round was a little more battle testy. The only series to go 7 games was Spurs-Hornets, which really wore the old, old Spurs out! They seemed to quit trying and ran out of gas, except for Duncan and Parker. The Lakers were tested by the Jazz, but the Lakers prevailed by outscoring them at home and in Utah in game 6. I've said it before and I'll say it again, the West contains the best offensive teams in the league and that's why it was so tight. The Spurs have been know for their low scoring championships, but that wasn't going to cut it for the energized Lakers and a really gassed old Spurs team. Also on their Nuggets sweep: Denver is known for their offense and their "no defense needed" philosophy. That's why Pau Gasol and Kobe Bryant and Lamar Odom went crazy on them. There were no contested shots.

Now the East: Yes, the Celtics were taken to a Game 7 by the cocky Hawks, but the Hawks are much better than expected, not that the Celtics were terrible in the postseason. They were energized by their crowd and they could run. I think the Celtics underestimated them and they played great defense as well. I'm convienced that the Hawks could have beaten the Nuggets by the way they played in the postseason. Going back to the East in general, your best Defensive juggernauts are out there. Celtics, Pistons, Cavs, Magic (in spurts) and the Wizards are known for their tight defense, but it wasn't as good as the Pistons or Celtics. They were the best teams in the East and the League, and I don't think the offense did that for them. Defense did it.

One of my best friends is a Lakers fan--die hard! So we'll be enemies for a couple of weeks. He told me something that made me worry some. He said the Lakers had been the best road team and the best home team in the playoffs and based on that trend, I'll say the Lakers can win in 5 games winning game 2 in Boston. Okay, that scared me, because trends speak loud...until someone changes the outcome.

Want to talk trends, lets talk trends.
1. Since 2004, when 1st round was switched to a 7 game format, no team that was taken to a seventh game has ever made it to the NBA Finals: This was true, until the 2008 Boston Celtics broke the trend. Look where they are. Facing the Lakers in the NBA Finals after two 7 game series!

2. Last year, the 8th Seed Golden State Warriors beat the 67-win Dallas Mavericks in the first round: Yes, we had the same scare, but the Celtics prevented the "Shock the World" talk by hitting the Hawks with a sledgehammer in game 7.

3. Last year 2007 ECF, LeBron has a monster game 5 in Detroit beating the Pistons in Game 6. Yes, LeBron did hand the Pistons their loss in Game 5 in Detroit. This was mentioned on ESPN going into game 5 with the Celtics. What happened. LeBron did get some impressive numbers. But the defense kept him from going crazy. To extend on this. He did go crazy in game 7 in Boston, but Paul Pierce said "You wanna get nuts! LETS GET NUTS!" The Truth matched LeBron's offensive battle, with the Celtics winning pressure and clutch. Thanks P.J.

4. No team has won a championship without ever winning on the road/Celtics can't win on the road in Playoffs: This is really a trend the Celtics created on their own. The no title without road wins will still remain, the Celtics proved to win on the road. How many ESPN experts picked the Pistons to finally win the series after our game 2 loss (and we worried too)! What happened. We dominated game 3! Regained home court back. Won on the road and the Critics were silenced...only for a little while.

5. (In relation to #4). Detroit is the only team that has not lost back to back games in the postseason. We won Game 5, although the 4th Quarter was a scare. In game 6, back in Detroit, the Celtics held their own. The third quarter was a scare. Coming into the fourth quarter, the trend of the Celtics not closing out late games, came to an end. With Rondo's shot, and the Posey steal, we won by 8 points. We were aggressive and didn't get weighed down by pressure. Also, the Detroit not losing back to back games became just another trend broken. Also, the Celtics won in Detroit and closed out the series in 6 games, the trend that the Celtics fail to close out the series in 6 became meaningless now.

In my view, this team has been the trend-breaker this postseason. However, this still hasn't impressed anyone of the national sports media. I'm not saying the Celtics have the advantage because of this, but it proves my point that looking at the trends and analyzing the entire postseason is pretty much bull****. It doesn't matter what the Celtics went through this postseason, what matters is that they're in the Finals and have the chance. That's really what both teams have.

The Celtics has it's share of harsh critics and the critics outweigh the supporters. Everyone is on the Lakers side (media) and everyone is in LOVE with Kobe! He's the next Jordan! Jordan/Kobe! Phil Jackson has another Jordan for another three-peat! Enough with this. Yes, Kobe is good. [dang] Good. However, the Bulls of the 90s were dominant. Winning 60 and 70 games most of the time. Analysts were in love with Jordan but did give some edge to the Utah Jazz during their matchups, but not much. Jordan always prevailed. But that's beside the point. Jordan is Jordan and Kobe is Kobe. Kobe is not Jordan. Jordan won all of his Finals appearances. Kobe hasn't, remember when the heavily favored Lakers were destroyed by our old east foe: the Pistons by playing tough defense. Still everyone expected Detroit to collapse under the weight of the superior offense. Pistons won in 5. I know the Lakers are different now, but the experience of winning three titles in a row, great postseason record, the Lakers were favored with a stacked lineup. IT IS POSSIBLE! As I remember, the Pistons fought harder in their postseason than the Lakers to get to the Finals.

We are the underdogs! Face it. Even if we had swept the Hawks, we'd still be the underdogs! Analysts would say: "The Celtics swept the 37-win Hawks, but Kobe and the Lakers swept a 50-win, much tougher, Nuggets. The Celtics weren't challenged as much as the Lakers were." However it does kinda hurt that we're not favored by anyone but the Boston media and our fans across the country. But understand this. The Los Angeles Lakers will always be favored. Always. Always. Always. Do I mind this, I did at first, but my dad (another Celtics fan) told me that the analysts don't know as much as they think they do. The Experts picks are usually luck picks if they get it right. But in the end, they're in the same boat we are all in...they don't really know.

The reason I'm writing this is not to say the Celtics will win the title, but to make a case for them. They are on trial against a truckload of prosecutors and no defense attorney. One of the best examples is Jamal Mashburn, former player and "expert" on NBA Fastbreak on ESPN.  Mashburn is a Lakers fan, obviously and everything he said was Lakers/positive: The Lakers can do this, the Lakers can do that. Then the Celtics/negative. The Celtics have had trouble doing this, The Celtics have failed to do that, the Celtics can't run, and yada, yada, yada. He said the Celtics's defense could not possible contain the Lakers offense! He said this "The Celtics offense [has been spotty]. If you're the Celtics, you'll need to play great offense. You just can't beat the Lakers on defense alone."  Okay. The Great Mashburn has won a total of ZERO Rings. I would like for Mashburn to say that statement to Bill Russell. While telling him that Russell would ask him to hold one of his title rings because his fingers are already full. Russell once said that a great team that plays great defense would win the championships. He said shots will come, but it's how well you keep the other team from making theirs.

I've been reading some more and listening about how the Celtics struggled on the road and slipped away with two road victories in Detroit. Well, the Celtics were expected to be dominated by a tough, well rested Pistons. Billups had enough time to rest his hamstring, Rip was a relentles scorer and tough to defend, and the superior Pistons bench would overwhelm the lackluster Celtics bench. We'll be tired going through a second 7th Game series. We heard all of that with the Pistons winning in six games. Then when Detroit won in Boston in game two, we heard "That's it." They're done. Hell, even I thought they were done. Well the series did go six games, but the winning team was wearing Green instead of Blue and Red. How did they do that? Didn't they lose one at home? Yes, they did, and came back to win two road games against a tough, tough, Pistons team. They had the second best record in the league! They were tough in the playoffs. They never lost back to back games. They dispatched the talented Magic team in five games. Then, the Celtics got the job done in the ECF.  The way the won in bounceback form in Game 3, clutch in Game 5 and Closeout Comeback fashion in Game 6, avoiding another Game 7. Many said if the Celtics win Game 6, it would send a statement. They won, yet, no one was convienced.

I do have some concerns of how the Celtics will defend the triangle offense--a favorite strategy of Phil Jackson's. I will be interested to see how Doc and Tom will come up with strategies to defend it. It is tough to defend, but it is not impossible, the coaching staff has plenty of time to prepare for it.

As for the coaching matchup, Phil Jackson and Doc Rivers makes it look like Yoda and a young Luke Skywalker (just learning the Force). Give Doc some credit and some love. No one expected the Celtics to be as dominant. Maybe the Atlantic Divison, but not this. Even with Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen. Even if they made it in the ECF, they were not expected to beat them. Check and mate.  A lot of credit can go to Doc for keeping these guys together and their focus on the total prize. Now they're only four wins away from that.  Phil Jackson does know basketball better than anyone coaching right now. He knows matchus, and mismatches for defense. However, his game revolves around the triangle offense and being annoying on defense. We've seen our share of annoying defense in the playoffs lately (Hawks, Cavs) and suffocating defense (Pistons).  Beating this Celtics team defensively will take a lot more than being pesky.  The offense is really the key for the Lakers to win and the Celtics defense is key for them. Which will win out?

Finally, my prediction for the Finals outcome:::::::I have no idea! This is the most legit I could come up with. Both teams provide strong cases of why the could win and both have weaknesses that could lead to their downfall.  The Celtics have turned the ball over a lot and Ray Allen hasn't had a good postseason, until he wore the Kobe sleeve (which he should wear for the rest of his life) He had a good series this time and is expected to be a good factor. Sam Cassell is the weakest link and I hope and I think Eddie House will have some playing time.  The Lakers suffer in rebounding and some closing lane defense.  Just some of the things and weaknesses.

This is not a Celtics will win thread, but providing a case in their defense. No one is defending them and no one is giving them a chance. Well I'm here to tell you they have a chance. They're in the Finals aren't they. Therefore they have as good a chance as the Lakers do. However saying the Lakers in 5 is pushing it. It's crazy talk really. The Celtics may lose the Finals but they will give the Lakers hell before they give in to them. Believe that, but don't believe that the Celtics are no match for them. Yes, they haven't played Pau Gasol and yes, they haven't played the new energized Lakers, but the Lakers aren't much different than they were when they faced them earlier in the season where they beat them both times. Just another scorer. The keys to Celtics winning are pretty simple. Play their defense, rebound to control tempo, make the extra pass, and be hungry and aggressive. More importantly, they must believe within themselves. M.L. Carr said they didn't have a chance and no one believed they could do it especially dropping Game 1 in 84. Well, they battled back and won the title. They played with the heart of champions. I think these Celtics have those hearts and minds.

They've had a tough road! But there here for a chance. If the Lakers win it then so be it. But guys, we defied everyone and we are back to revealance again! Next year, we could be back for another shot. Don't give up hope and still bring it home. If you're ever discouraged by the analysts and experts and many fans saying they didn't have a chance. Remember the words of M.L. Carr.

Let the Celtics win in 6 or 7 on the parquet floor at home. Celtics...godspeed and good luck to you.

P.S. BEAT L.A.! BEAT L.A.! BEAT L.A.! BEAT L.A.!
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Re: No National Media Love / Experts Picking LA
« Reply #100 on: June 02, 2008, 12:36:56 AM »

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I think one thing people fail to see if that the Celtics havn't peaked yet in these playoffs.... such they've had a few good games during series but haven't really played that well.... The Lakers have played their best basketball in the Spurs series...... The Lakers are bound for a downturn, and the Celtics are destined to play much better basketball since we haven't peaked yet......

To me, it looks like two tems going in different directions...... I'm glad the C's weren't at top form at the beginning of the playoffs....... remember the regular season when we started off hot and then struggled through mid-season..... I think in the playoffs, we've have yet to play real Celtics basketball

Celtics in 6 baby!!!

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« Reply #101 on: June 02, 2008, 12:43:04 AM »

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Wow jbhdva, that was quite a novel for your first post.  How long did you work on that?  Good stuff though.

Re: No National Media Love / Experts Picking LA
« Reply #102 on: June 02, 2008, 12:45:48 AM »

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We should be underdogs.  They're playing brilliant basketball right now, they'll have the best player on the floor, and a vastly superior coach.  Plus we have a myriad of matchup issues on the defensive end of the floor.  The hall of fame coach and the transcendent player don't typically lose in the finals (but hey, the did in 04).
Exactly what match-up problems do we have?  Perkins would do fine on Gasol and KG would have his way with Lamar.  And speaking of matchups, who is going to guard KG?  Lamar or Gasol have no chance at all.  And what about PP?  Kobe?  Okay, what about Allen then.  And even if Kobe guard PP, Pierce has always done well. 

That is what gets me about all of the predictions.  It is as if they are only playing on one of the court and that Bos will not go on offense.

Pierce is a huge matchup problem for them, no doubt.  I'm not saying we have no chance, because we do.  We're a very  good team.  I just think they're playing better basketball right now, plus they have one of the greatest players of all time, in his prime and one of the greatest coaches of all time.  If we put KG on Pau then Odom gets to toy with Perk on the perimeter and Pau is going to bring KG out with him, which diminishes our rebounding presence.  I think they'll keep Kobe on Ray and probably put Odom on Pierce.  Let's not forget that Phil Jackson is a vastly superior coach to Doc Rivers.  We can definitely win this thing and 8-0 in favor of the Lakers is a bit much, I just think they have an edge and I understand why they are favored.     
You certainly seem to be ignoring the obvious.  We put KP on Gasol and KG of Lamar.  Match up problems solved.  If they take us out to the perimeter, then their big men won't be rebounding either.  Shoot, at that point, Rondo may be the best rebounder left.  And if they put Gasol on KG, what do you think will happen with that match up?
Gasol can obliterate Perk down low too.  He doesn't have to take him out.  Pau Gasol is a gifted offensive player.  and KG will absolutely torch Gasol if that's the matchup they go with. (I don't think they will)

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« Reply #103 on: June 02, 2008, 12:47:11 AM »

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I'm not sure if anybody mentioned it earlier, but Tim Legler picked us.  That makes one out of ten "experts".


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Re: No National Media Love / Experts Picking LA
« Reply #104 on: June 02, 2008, 12:48:04 AM »

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Great stuff, Jbhdva ... I'm not quoting you for space purposes, but I recommend the read. Well thought-out, and while I agree with most of it, I honestly think we'll win in five ... at home, (lose one in LA), or six tops. Welcome to the blog ... here's your first Tommy Point, for such extensive and positive posting!
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