Celtics dominated by Bob Delaney

[dooyork]

Here is our W/L record so far in the 2008 postseason vs. each referee we've gone up against.

We have been dominated by Bob Delaney so far this postseason, at 0-3, including Game 6 in ATL, Game 4 in CLE, and last night's debacle in Detroit.  Tom Washington has also been formidable, teaming up with Violet Palmer for a victory against the Celtics in Game 3 in Atlanta.

Make of this what you will.

#10  Ron Garretson  2-0
#22  Bill Spooner 2-0
#41  Ken Mauer 2-0
#8   Luis Grillo 1-0
#9   Derrick Stafford  1-0
#25  Tony Brothers 1-0
#36  David Jones  1-0
#38  Michael Smith  1-0
#73  Ed Malloy   1-0

#17  Joe Crawford 2-1
#27  Dick Bavetta 2-1
#32  Eddie Rush 2-1
#43  Dan Crawford 2-1

#15  Bennett Salvatore 2-2
#6   Jimmy Clark 1-1
#13  Monty McCutchen 1-1
#14  Joe DeRosa 1-1
#45  Joe Forte 1-1
#48  Scott Foster 1-1
#57  Greg Willard   1-1

#18  Mark Wunderlich  1-2
#29  Steve Javie  1-2

#12  Violet Palmer 0-1
#24  Mike Callahan 0-1
#33  Sean Corbin 0-1
#49  Tom Washington   0-2
#26  Bob Delaney 0-3



Here is the refereeing crew we went up against in each game:

ATL 1
#6  Jimmy Clark , #8  Luis Grillo , #29  Steve Javie 

ATL 2
#14  Joe DeRosa , #22  Bill Spooner , #73  Ed Malloy   

ATL 3
#12  Violet Palmer , #15  Bennett Salvatore , #49  Tom Washington   

ATL 4
#24  Mike Callahan , #13  Monty McCutchen , #32  Eddie Rush

ATL 5
#27  Dick Bavetta , #45  Joe Forte , #36  David Jones   

ATL 6
#17  Joe Crawford , #26  Bob Delaney , #18  Mark Wunderlich   

ATL 7
#43  Dan Crawford , #41  Ken Mauer , #15  Bennett Salvatore   



CLE 1
#48  Scott Foster , #32  Eddie Rush , #38  Michael Smith   

CLE 2
#17  Joe Crawford , #22  Bill Spooner , #9  Derrick Stafford   

CLE 3
#6  Jimmy Clark , #15  Bennett Salvatore , #57  Greg Willard   

CLE 4
#26  Bob Delaney , #29  Steve Javie , #18  Mark Wunderlich   

CLE 5
#25  Tony Brothers , #43  Dan Crawford , #10  Ron Garretson   

CLE 6
#27  Dick Bavetta , #14  Joe DeRosa , #45  Joe Forte   

CLE 7
#41  Ken Mauer , #32  Eddie Rush , #15  Bennett Salvatore   


DET 1
#17  Joe Crawford , #57  Greg Willard , #18  Mark Wunderlich   

DET 2
#33  Sean Corbin , #29  Steve Javie , #49  Tom Washington   

DET 3
#27  Dick Bavetta , #10  Ron Garretson , #13  Monty McCutchen   

DET 4
#43  Dan Crawford , #26  Bob Delaney , #48  Scott Foster   

[Roy Hobbs]

I guess it's an interesting coincidence, but last night's performance had nothing to do with the refereeing.

[LarBrd33]

our team was freakin horrible last night.  One of the only games I've just given up on and walked away with us down 7.   For some reason I knew there was no way we were going to win it... we couldn't hit ANYTHING.    I just turned that trash off and wasn't surprised at all when I later found out we were blown out by 19.   Garbage.

I'm not too confident about the remainder of this series.  It sounds like ubuntu is dying.   

[Redz]

our team was freakin horrible last night.  One of the only games I've just given up on and walked away with us down 7.   For some reason I knew there was no way we were going to win it... we couldn't hit ANYTHING.    I just turned that trash off and wasn't surprised at all when I later found out we were blown out by 19.   Garbage.

I'm not too confident about the remainder of this series.  It sounds like ubuntu is dying.   

The Celts had the ball down 5 with under 4 minutes left in the game and twice failed to score.  I never had a warm, cushy feeling that they were going to win this game, but it wasn't exactly the blowout the final score would indicate.

[Chris]

I guess it's an interesting coincidence, but last night's performance had nothing to do with the refereeing.

Well, if the Refs weren't giving the C's as many calls as they were giving them, it would have been a 20 point blowout in the first half.  If anyone should be complaining after last night's reffing, its Detroit.

[dooyork]

guess it's an interesting coincidence, but last night's performance had nothing to do with the refereeing.


Well, if the Refs weren't giving the C's as many calls as they were giving them, it would have been a 20 point blowout in the first half.  If anyone should be complaining after last night's reffing, its Detroit.

I thought the reffing was inconsistent last night: the Pistons constantly fouled, as usual, and the refs called some of the more ticky tack fouls on them, while ignoring some pretty blatant fouls, or blowing the whistle really late when the Pistons are hacking away at the guy with the ball.  It's not about the number of free throws each team gets, it's the fact that the Pistons are allowed to play much more aggressive defense than their opponent.

That being said, I agree last night's game can't be blamed on the refs, it was lack of effort and execution by the Celtics.  But in case anyone thinks the W/L records for each ref are interesting, there they are.  I feel like there are some refs where I get a bad feeling as soon as I find out they're in the game, like Violet Palmer.  And again, that's not because of the number of free throws each team gets, it's how aggressive each team is allowed to be, similar to how some umps will have a tiny strike zone with some pitchers, etc.

[joebianca]

ATL 6
#17  Joe Crawford , #26  Bob Delaney , #18  Mark Wunderlich   

CLE 6
#27  Dick Bavetta , #14  Joe DeRosa , #45  Joe Forte

Thank you for that. Now I'll forever know who was responsible for two of the worst officiated games I've ever seen.

[PerkinsERA43]

I guess it's an interesting coincidence, but last night's performance had nothing to do with the refereeing.

Well, if the Refs weren't giving the C's as many calls as they were giving them, it would have been a 20 point blowout in the first half.  If anyone should be complaining after last night's reffing, its Detroit.

I don't think anyone can gripe about the officiating in game 4,  especially not Detriot. They all whined the whole night, but each of the calls they contested were just so clearly fouls that it was comical. On the play where Chauncey started dancing and spinning around, and Flip kicked the scoreboard, they showed the replay, and it was obviously a foul.