Ray Allen, Game 3

[Rondoholic]

Did anyone else think it was funny that Ray was jacking and padding his stats late in the game?  Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he was actually hitting and it may add to his resurging confidence for game 4, but he was so aggressive when the game was all-but over and the Pistons were no longer playing any D. Now, only if he can start hitting some meaningful shots like he did in game 2.  Also, can anyone explain the pattern in the playoffs - when Ray plays well, we lose.  We are like 0-3 or 0-4 when he scores over 20.

[BudweiserCeltic]

The only stat he padded in the end was his points... he had an excellent game in all other areas of the game, and was aggressive all night.

[Rondoholic]

True, I liked the 6 boards and 6 assists.  So yeah, I guess I am talking about points cause that's usually all we're talking about with Ray anyway. Not really complaining, I just thought it was a little funny...

[SShoreFan 2.0]

The only stat he padded in the end was his points... he had an excellent game in all other areas of the game, and was aggressive all night.

I agree the only questionable stat was the last two points, but a shot had to be taken by someone ( a point that could be argued all day long if you wanted to -- I do not) as the 24 second clock expired.

Assists and rebounds numbers showed a well rounded game. 

Quick question --- who was Ray guarding last night and who was Paul guarding?  Wondering why Paul's attempts were so low..........not complaining, just wondering.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Not saying this is completely what happened with Paul, but he passed up a ton of good shots to make the extra pass, especially in the first half. He also had a ton of turnovers.

Aside from that, don't know and I really don't care from where our offense comes from as long as our team is producing.

[hwangjini_1]

i was disappointed by his shooting in game 3 since i had hoped he was finally out of his "slump" (is that what he shooting woes are now?) after seeing him shoot better in game 2.

i guess one of the few positives we can get from his poor shooting is that if the celtics can take 2 out of 3 from detroit when allen is is awful, imagine what the team can do when allen finally gets on track.

[wdleehi]

My issue was that both he and Pierce got so few shots during the middle of the game that would be considered easy.  Few shots created by other players for those two moving towards the hoop. 

[fairweatherfan06]

Its funny how Ray gets judged on this board anyway (and to a lesser extent Rondo and Perk) I was thinking maybe it was a lack familiarity but people are simply unreasonable.  Here are some of my favorites.

1)Ray is not the same player he was last year because he doesn't shoot 75% from 3 and 65% from the field even though he's forced to take more 3's but takes 3-5 less shots this season and shoots a higher percentage than he did last season.

2) Ray is useless unless he is scoring points and he might as well be on the bench because he's a defensive liability and Tony Allen's basketball IQ is through the roof and nobody scores when Tony is guarding them ask Rip Hamilton and Chauncey Billups.

3) Ray can have a 10/6/6 game but because he didn't score (that much) he had a subpar performance but Paul can have a  8/5/5 game and people here would say he did all the little things right and even though he didn't hit his shot he played well within the game.  

4) Ray scores 25 points in a losing effort where his effort is the only reason we had a chance to win         the game: No comment
  
Ray scores 9 points (including a timely dagger 3 pointer in a winning effort and plays good defense):  Ray is killing us!  We don't have a big 3 we have a big 2. Why did we trade for him?  Where is Wally Szerbiak!!

 

Mind you I could come up with more  Or do the same kind of list for Young Rondo (and Perk), but since this is a thread about Ray....

[Redz]

I agree that the only "unnecessary" points he had were the last two.  I was still sweating it a bit when the Pistons cut it to 9 at about the 3 minute mark.  Ray's 3 soon thereafter made me feel a hell of a lot more at ease.

[SShoreFan 2.0]

I agree that the only "unnecessary" points he had were the last two.  I was still sweating it a bit when the Pistons cut it to 9 at about the 3 minute mark.  Ray's 3 soon thereafter made me feel a hell of a lot more at ease.

A-ha!!

The above statement would then directly contradict your thread "Blame Ray"!!

How do you plead Mr. Cake and Eat It Too?

(Apparently, I've watched that Lebron commercial too many times)

[Redz]

I agree that the only "unnecessary" points he had were the last two.  I was still sweating it a bit when the Pistons cut it to 9 at about the 3 minute mark.  Ray's 3 soon thereafter made me feel a hell of a lot more at ease.

A-ha!!

The above statement would then directly contradict your thread "Blame Ray"!!

How do you plead Mr. Cake and Eat It Too?

(Apparently, I've watched that Lebron commercial too many times)

I'll maintain my right to contradict my half-baked, sarcastic, reverse psychology theory whenever I darn well please.

[Chris]

My issue was that both he and Pierce got so few shots during the middle of the game that would be considered easy.  Few shots created by other players for those two moving towards the hoop. 

They were taking what the defense was giving to them.  It was the ultimate "Ubuntu" game, because no one was "taking over", they were just moving the ball, and everyone was hitting their open shots and stepping up.  If the other guys stop hitting their shots again (or Detroit adjusts to not pressure Pierce and Allen so much), expect Pierce and Allen to start trying to take the game over a little more.

[SShoreFan 2.0]

I agree that the only "unnecessary" points he had were the last two.  I was still sweating it a bit when the Pistons cut it to 9 at about the 3 minute mark.  Ray's 3 soon thereafter made me feel a hell of a lot more at ease.

A-ha!!

The above statement would then directly contradict your thread "Blame Ray"!!

How do you plead Mr. Cake and Eat It Too?

(Apparently, I've watched that Lebron commercial too many times)

I'll maintain my right to contradict my half-baked, sarcastic, reverse psychology theory whenever I darn well please.

So noted -- and appreciated! 

Signed,
the King of reverse psychology

[hwangjini_1]

I agree that the only "unnecessary" points he had were the last two.  I was still sweating it a bit when the Pistons cut it to 9 at about the 3 minute mark.  Ray's 3 soon thereafter made me feel a hell of a lot more at ease.

A-ha!!

The above statement would then directly contradict your thread "Blame Ray"!!

How do you plead Mr. Cake and Eat It Too?

(Apparently, I've watched that Lebron commercial too many times)

I'll maintain my right to contradict my half-baked, sarcastic, reverse psychology theory whenever I darn well please.

wow! logic as iron clad as that deserves a TP! thanks for setting the standard for celticsblog! 

[Cman]

2) Ray is useless unless he is scoring points and he might as well be on the bench because he's a defensive liability and Tony Allen's basketball IQ is through the roof and nobody scores when Tony is guarding them ask Rip Hamilton and Chauncey Billups.

TP for #2!

Actually there was a good article somewhere that I read recently about how Celtics fans have been remarkably respectful of Ray during his slump.  Don't know where the article was, but it was pretty good...
EDIT: It was the "We Love Ray Allen" article posted by Jeff on the main page (at this point in the day you will need to scroll down).  Thanks for the link Jeff, and good reading for anyone looking for something b-ball related to do between now and tip off tonight...