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Will Doc Ever Coach a Team Out of the First Round?
« on: April 28, 2008, 10:52:03 PM »

Offline Bankshot

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I'm really getting worried now. :(  I was glad he went to House, but he kept him in too long when he saw he had nothing. I think he's too rusty from not playing really at all this whole series.  Perk was playing well and was left on the bench the whole 4th quarter. ::)  What's going on!

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Re: Will Doc Ever Coach a Team Out of the First Round?
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2008, 10:56:41 PM »

Offline connerhenry43

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i knew it, and i want to hear from all the doc apologists out there.

hey doc, your best lineup tonight was with pierce on the bench. garnett, powe, allen, posey, rondo. pierce on the bench. i love paul, but he was brutal tonight.

with a dcent coach, we win tonihgt.

we will never with with doc.
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2008, 10:57:53 PM »

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Yes

He'll do it in two games time
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2008, 10:59:57 PM »

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Pierce wasn't the problem.  He did miss free throws which stunk, but the biggest problem was that Ray couldn't guard Joe Johnson ONE LICK.  JJ ran circles around Ray Allen all night.  This is definitely a series where Tony needs to get some spot minutes to play some defense.  KG didn't do a great job on Josh Smith either.
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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2008, 11:07:39 PM »

Offline bigtyc55

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why the hell does perk sit on the bench for every third quarter...?
24 min, 6 pts, 9 rebs, 1 ast, 1blk, 3-4fg, heres the big one...4 offensive boards!!!
i'm so sick of midget ball with posey playing PF for us, the game is meant to have C and a PF not KG and 3 guys 6'6''-6'8'' and rondo.
its just absurd!
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2008, 11:07:56 PM »

Offline BringToughnessBack

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It is official. Doc is the worst coach in the NBA..... period.

He was so inspired by our game 2 performance that he decided to make the players watch video of the horrific game instead of getting them on the court and letting them work through it..Brilliant

He was so excited by the start we did tonight, that he decided to slam on the breaks and watch our big lead dissappear without calling a timeout or making any adjustments while they put on their charge...brilliant...

He looked like a deer in the headlights...from beginning to end..like last year...brilliant

He is letting a team that tore regular season opponents night in and night out lose to a team that would have a hard time challenging the NCAA champion...brilliant

He has let what seemed to be an easy sweep turn into a dangerous 3 game series with us having everything to lose in the next game with a deer in controls of our destiny..brilliant

He fails to inspire 3 superstars, make any sort of logical decisions or substitutions and is still trying to find a lineup that works when it had appeared we had found that in the last few weeks of the season...brilliant

He has literally turned a sure thing into a Doc thing..brilliant


This game made me sick, sick, sick and I am sick and tired of watching our coach screw our championship season up.....to think I thought we had this in the bag until I was shown how our coach handles and prepares for important games...brilliant

Lets all hope Doc is not so brilliant next game and he actually finds the right words to inspire great players to play great or better yet, how about a practice with no Doc on the court..let the players find the strength from within to show what they are truly made of
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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2008, 11:12:02 PM »

Offline reggie35

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the question should be can doc coach his way out of a paper bag. i still think the celtics win this series, BUT if this doesn't temper your expectations a bit, nothing will.

as for doc, how many points will you let joe johnson score before you realize something's not working?
how is it that Perkins can be having a monster game and see next to no time in the second half?
why is the fourth quarter the time to throw eddie house into the fire?
why is it that doc always seems to realize too late that his team is in trouble?

what joe johnson did tonight is nothing next to what LeBron will do in the next round IF we even get there.
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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2008, 11:17:22 PM »

Offline BASSTHUMPER

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excuse me for a moment...

lets take doc out the picture...

if we made our Layups and Freethrows would we have won..?...

blame the playas on this one..last season we went through the blame doc threads...not his fault when we are given an uncontested set shot and we dont make it....
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2008, 11:19:20 PM »

Offline butterbeanlove

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He blew the Indiana series in 2004 by not bringing in the bench and letting Pierce and Walker run out of gas in game 2, which we blew when we could have gone back to Boston 2-0. He got away from the rotation that was working in the regular season.

He's not good at making in-game adjustments. At all. Imagine him against Jerry Sloan or Phil Jax.
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2008, 11:21:33 PM »

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You can sit and try and place individual blame all you want, but Doc didn't cost us this game. The only potentially valid point you have is Perk not being on the floor enough. I definitely agree that we are playing too small with these guys and they are killing us on the boards in crucial times. We out rebounded them this game and had 15 offensive to their 8, but their 8 came in big stretches. 2 right there at the end that killed us.

You can't blame Ray either. He was on Johnson all night and Johnson just hit some circus shots and long tough ones. He also was the only one of the big three that shot well. You can blame PP and KG's 50% free throw shooting. You can blame KG's awful shooting for yet another game. You can blame PP trying so hard to prove he is the man that he got himself in foul trouble and forced some things. You can blame Rondo's poor shooting. Absolutely nothing from Sam or House off the bench. Have I mentioned I hate Sam's game...

Fact is, they go harder to the rim than we do and get fouls called against us. They are more athletic than we are and are using that energy against us. We lost as a team because we are once again trying to win it one on one and are not moving the ball. It sure isn't Doc's fault that players are doing that. It's not his fault Rondo, KG and PP went 20-51. The Hawks just out-Celtic'd us.

Now it is a best of three though. Time to strap it up and win the next one in Boston. You sure don't want to give an underdog hope though...
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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2008, 11:22:07 PM »

Offline chrismihm

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GREEN 17! come on now ill be worried when the cs are losing this series.  the hawks are not this good of a team.  they cant keep this play up and the cs are not this bad, law of averages! all the negativity in t his town sucks.  it sucks and it stinks and it sucks.
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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2008, 11:23:27 PM »

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Quote from: EJPLAYA on April 28, 2008, 11:21:33 PM
You can sit and try and place individual blame all you want, but Doc didn't cost us this game. The only potentially valid point you have is Perk not being on the floor enough. I definitely agree that we are playing too small with these guys and they are killing us on the boards in crucial times. We out rebounded them this game and had 15 offensive to their 8, but their 8 came in big stretches. 2 right there at the end that killed us.

You can't blame Ray either. He was on Johnson all night and Johnson just hit some circus shots and long tough ones. He also was the only one of the big three that shot well. You can blame PP and KG's 50% free throw shooting. You can blame KG's awful shooting for yet another game. You can blame PP trying so hard to prove he is the man that he got himself in foul trouble and forced some things. You can blame Rondo's poor shooting. Absolutely nothing from Sam or House off the bench. Have I mentioned I hate Sam's game...

Fact is, they go harder to the rim than we do and get fouls called against us. They are more athletic than we are and are using that energy against us. We lost as a team because we are once again trying to win it one on one and are not moving the ball. It sure isn't Doc's fault that players are doing that. It's not his fault Rondo, KG and PP went 20-51. The Hawks just out-Celtic'd us.

Now it is a best of three though. Time to strap it up and win the next one in Boston. You sure don't want to give an underdog hope though...

The best big man we have after KG was having a great game and saw almost no time in the 2nd half?  I'd say that's Doc's fault.  Notice all the rebounds we didn't get down the stretch while Perk was on the bench?
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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2008, 11:23:42 PM »

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Yeah, Doc is once again the whole problem.  He went with House, and he showed nothing.  He wouldn't have showed anything in the last game either.  Team shot 10 for 18 free-throws, is Doc supposed to shot it for them? Twenty two minutes for Powe tonight, how did that work for you guys complaining for his minutes? He did nothing out there, missing defensive assignments all over the place. Garnett was being eaten alive by Josh Smith and being out hustled by the young Hawks.  Someone who's supposed to be an effecient scorer going 9 for 21 is not acceptable.  The only complaint to me would be that Perk could've probably played more, but that's too minor of a thing to complain about; my feeling is that early in the quarter they sit him down so that he can rest... later in the quarter his services are no longer needed as we need scorers out there.  Also, I think he wanted faster bodies out there because we were being out hustled once again.  Too many things went wrong in this game that had ZERO to do with coaching.  You guys are really unbelievable.  How about Rajon hoisting up sixteen shots on 6 for 16 shooting, some very questionable shot selection out there, not being able to finish plays and getting too fancy on fastbreaks, getting stuffed by Josh Smith time and time again.
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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2008, 11:24:16 PM »

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Quote from: BringToughnessBack on April 28, 2008, 11:07:56 PM
He was so inspired by our game 2 performance that he decided to make the players watch video of the horrific game instead of getting them on the court and letting them work through it..Brilliant

I don't join you on the Doc negativity, this one was about the players more than him. But this, the tape, what was it 90 minutes he ran them through it? That sent a shiver through my spine when the announcers said that. Did not like that.

Quote from: reggie35 on April 28, 2008, 11:12:02 PM
what joe johnson did tonight is nothing next to what LeBron will do in the next round IF we even get there.
True Statement
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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2008, 11:25:58 PM »

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I agree with virtually everything said so far, but one point to add is that when the celtics scored 4 points in about 8 minutes to start the quarter, and nothing was going right, why were they so predictable and kept going to Garnett? Any idiot would have run a few plays for Ray Allen who had been shooting well all game, and the Hawks never would have gotten the lead in the first place.

Also, Big Baby is having a miserable series, the hawks are too athletic for him and Powe, why not give tony allen a chance!?
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