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Where's Eddie House?
« on: April 26, 2008, 10:54:07 PM »

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Watching us crumble in game 3, with no 3 point threat other than Posey, and Sam killing the O and sucking on D, why hasn't Doc given Eddie a run? He has been our microwave this entire season, and he is sitting on the pine. Doc looks unimaginative  in this game.

Re: Where's Eddie House?
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2008, 11:01:45 PM »

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doc puts him in right after I posted this. Too late.

Re: Where's Eddie House?
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2008, 11:06:27 PM »

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Yeah, but Eddie only got a few seconds until 3 minutes left in the game, when the game was out of reach. ::)

I'm really getting scared of Doc's coaching in the playoffs.  He really stunk at coaching in this game, imo.
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Re: Where's Eddie House?
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2008, 11:08:11 PM »

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I very strongly disliked Eddie House's non-role in tonight's game. He's hit big shots to stop the opponents momentum all season long. He's brough great energy and hustle all season long. He's brought great perimeter shooting all season long. The C's needed everything he had to offer.

I was so happy when Doc put him in right at the end of the third. Then he pulls him for Cassell.

Re: Where's Eddie House?
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2008, 11:10:30 PM »

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I completely agree. Doc was probably too scared of mismatches that might have threw the game off even more, but footey I think you're spot on, that was just being plain unimaginative. Hopefully the next time around this will give Doc a better idea of how to adjust.
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Re: Where's Eddie House?
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2008, 11:25:30 PM »

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I really think House's absence was the fatal flaw in this game, his momentum changing would have altered the result of this game.

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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2008, 11:29:22 PM »

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I very strongly disliked Eddie House's non-role in tonight's game. He's hit big shots to stop the opponents momentum all season long. He's brough great energy and hustle all season long. He's brought great perimeter shooting all season long. The C's needed everything he had to offer.

I was so happy when Doc put him in right at the end of the third. Then he pulls him for Cassell.
Eddie & Posey have been huge for the Celts all season long in the rare occasion that they've been down in the 2nd half.  It was a bit surprising that he wasn't in there earlier, but apparently Doc was tring to milk the rotation that won him the first two games pretty easily.
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2008, 11:34:14 PM »

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Watching us crumble in game 3, with no 3 point threat other than Posey, and Sam killing the O and sucking on D, why hasn't Doc given Eddie a run? He has been our microwave this entire season, and he is sitting on the pine. Doc looks unimaginative  in this game.

i hear where ur coming from, however, even if eddie played, it would not have made a big difference.  we did not play well overall.  we defended horribly and settled for far to many outside shots offensively.  we didnt take it to the hoop enough.

Re: Where's Eddie House?
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2008, 10:12:12 AM »

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What I don't like about the House situation:

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House, who averaged 19 minutes per game during the season, said he remains entirely in the dark.

“That’s a question you’ll have to ask Doc,” he said. “I try not to think about it too much. As a competitor you want to play and you want to get in the game. If you think about (matchups), it takes away from what you need to be doing and that’s focusing on the games and trying to stay ready and stay mentally into the game, even if you’re not physically into the game.”
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But House knows he must remain focused in case Rivers decides to increase his minutes.

“I’m not sure if they are, but things can change and I’ve got to be prepared and ready to step in and contribute, like I did all year,” he said.

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I don't like it that House isn't getting minutes, because he was a HUGE part of this team all year.  The offense and defense both ran well when he was in there (until Doc went to those silly five-man bench units down the stretch), and Eddie seemed to have a perfect role on this team.  Now, he's getting 5 minutes per game in the playoffs.  He can't get either crunch time or garbage time minutes, and that's a ridiculous way to handle a guy who has unquestionably been one of our top 8 players all season.

The bigger concern, though, is the intimation that Doc hasn't discussed this issue with House.  Why on earth not?  That's absolutely, unequivocally terrible coaching, if true.  That's *not* how you treat a veteran, especially not a key contributor to your team.

What Doc's doing now with the rotation / minutes could potentially affect the confidence of House, Tony, Powe, and Perk, and that's just not a good thing heading into the next round.  Doc is the #1 concern for me in terms of this team winning a championship, and his handling of the team so far isn't instilling me with confidence.  Again, it's not the rotations, it's the fact that the players don't have a clue what's going on (and they're complaining to the papers about it.)

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Re: Where's Eddie House?
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2008, 10:43:53 AM »

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Telfair over Dolante/Rondo
Cassell over Eddie...and sometimes over Rondo

Coaches tend to give hyped players more mins than deserved.  Sam has been great in small streches, but got to keep it all in perspective(i.e. now-and-then EHouse gives you a heck of a lot more)

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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2008, 11:04:26 AM »

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Watching us crumble in game 3, with no 3 point threat other than Posey, and Sam killing the O and sucking on D, why hasn't Doc given Eddie a run? He has been our microwave this entire season, and he is sitting on the pine. Doc looks unimaginative  in this game.

i hear where ur coming from, however, even if eddie played, it would not have made a big difference.  we did not play well overall.  we defended horribly and settled for far to many outside shots offensively.  we didnt take it to the hoop enough.

I think the reason we didn't play well (and the C's haven't played well in all three games so far - even though they won handily the first two), is that they are playing with different rotations than they have all year, so the absence of Eddy House and Cassell instead is huge, because Sam doesn't distribute the ball or get the team in their sets.  All he does is shoot it.  Eddie does move the ball and gets the team in their sets and lets the ball get back to him before he chucks up a shot.

Also you say we didn't go to the hoop enough.  Well PP and Rondo only got 30 minutes and that is absolutely ridiculous in a playoff game, and Tony got ZERO minutes and those are the only guys that could drive to the basket.

If this is the way Doc is going to coach in the playoffs, sadly the C's won't be hanging #17 this year. :-[
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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2008, 11:12:42 AM »

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atleast when eddie is chucking its based of spacing and ball movement. Cassell literally takes the inbounds pass, dribbles up court, and shoots contested pull up jumpers off the dribble. I know they went in the first two games ... but it was just as mind-boggling then!

Re: Where's Eddie House?
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2008, 01:34:08 AM »

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You guys are blowing this out of proportion.  Or maybe you guys didn't notice how Rondo was 3 of 8 entering the 4th? And it took 2 awful/lucky shots in the 4th to get it to a respectable 5 of 10.  Four assists from our great playmaker.

Everyone stunk last night.  Cassell took only 4 shots last night, hardly a ballhog. Two bad ones in the 4th, and that's what really stood out in people's minds.  His first shot was a midrange jumper with the shotclock winding down and the 2nd one was a transition 3 that looked quite good in my opinion. He came into the game shooting 47% from the floor, nothing back breaking.  So he had a bad a night, just the same most of our Celtics did.

Let's say Doc bring House in and he has a couple of turnovers and his 3-pointer isn't falling, are we going to start crying for Cassell then?  I like House and I hope we can get to see him for some extended periods in the series, but let's not kid ourselves as if he were our savior.

What really killed us was our 1st and 3rd quarters, and that's when our starters play.  Nothing to do with House, nothing to do with Cassell. It was Pierce being awful and outrebounded.  It was Ray Allen taking bad shots, a couple 3-pointers that got blocked. It was Rondo doing nothing and taking bad shots. It was Violet Palmer and company calling some really bad calls, especially on poor Glen Davis.  Who knows what kind of effect the game delay and the lack of shotclock had on our team.

They outrebounded us 43 to 35, including 12 offensive rebounds... that tells us the complete story of the game.  I don't think we need to analyze much more.

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Also you say we didn't go to the hoop enough.  Well PP and Rondo only got 30 minutes and that is absolutely ridiculous in a playoff game, and Tony got ZERO minutes and those are the only guys that could drive to the basket.

Pierce and Rondo were quite bad out there.  Pierce played 36 minutes though.  Here's an idea, let's play the whole roster... no no that can't be right because then Doc would be blamed for playing too many people or be blamed because Tony makes a boneheaded play.  Hey, how about we go and yell at Popovich, who played Duncan 30 minutes, Ginobili 21 minutes, and Parker 29 minutes?
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Re: Where's Eddie House?
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2008, 01:51:49 PM »

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Eddie should get half a dozen shots a game..he can be instant offese off the bench..Cassel really does nothing more than take his own shots..We all know Eddie is a better shooter than Sam

Run Eddie around some picks and make Bibby or Johnson chase him...Use his offense to your advantage..if he is over matched on D take him out..

10 minutes should'nt be to hard to find
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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2008, 02:04:26 PM »

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Eddie, while not a great defender, is better than Cassell. He understands the rotations better.  Sam looked awful on D in game 3.