Celticsblog fantasy bball keeper league (Draft Thread)

[bostonfan23]

Hakim Warrick and Peja.

sorry, have been ridiculously busy lately

[yall hate]

peja is the ultimate bang or bust type pick, but this late in the draft i think it represents great value.  he was option 1b for my pick, lol.

[yall hate]

There has been a trade between Blake and myself
Blake is going to recieve my 1st round pick next year along with my 14th and 16th pick.  in return I am getting his 7,10,12, and 14 this year.

[CelticsDynasty5]

God blake this is totally ridiculous, you are absolutly killing your team. Not only are you getting completly raped but with all the talent you are giving to Ya'll Hate and Edgar both those picks are going to be very low. This is ridiculous and I am now offically banning the trading of first round picks. No one is going to want to take over your team either blake when you quit because it's going to completly have no depth at all.

I'm sorry but I am banning the trading of future first round picks until draft time. This is getting unacceptable real fast. I'm sorry for the good of the league this trade is not going through, sorry ya'll hate I realize it's not your fault but something needs to be done.

[yall hate]

so since you are banning them now, does that mean that mine went through since it was agreed and announced prior to the banning?

[CelticsDynasty5]

so since you are banning them now, does that mean that mine went through since it was agreed and announced prior to the banning?

Honestly i'd rather it not. I know it sounds real dick but honestly, something needs to be done. This is spiraling totally out of control.

[yall hate]

i guess again that raises the veto issue...if the veto is in place, this trade has been agreed to with enough time to allow the veto procedure to take place (the first of the picks isnt scheduled till later tomorrow).  wouldnt it make sense to allow that procedure to come into play?  you would need two more people to publically come out...then however many we agreed to also back it up.


Roy Hobbs will be making my next pick for me.

[CelticsDynasty5]

i guess again that raises the veto issue...if the veto is in place, this trade has been agreed to with enough time to allow the veto procedure to take place (the first of the picks isnt scheduled till later tomorrow).  wouldnt it make sense to allow that procedure to come into play?  you would need two more people to publically come out...then however many we agreed to also back it up.


Roy Hobbs will be making my next pick for me.

It seems that other owners do not understand how disasterous this is for the league and how unfair it is, considering only mkgoav and me understood and vetoed the last one.

Think of it this way, there are still top 10 players from this years draft, last years, and the years before avaliable and a lot of really good young talent as well. There will still be a ton of good young talent avaliable in the next 3-4 rounds as well. Blake will likley be getting back a #15-#20 pick in this years draft from both you and Edgar because he boosted both of your teams so much. It's ridiculous honestly.

He will be getting a probable #15-#20 pick in this years draft for possibly 3 top 10 picks in the previous 3 drafts.

[mkogav]

There has been a trade between Blake and myself
Blake is going to recieve my 1st round pick next year along with my 14th and 16th pick.  in return I am getting his 7,10,12, and 14 this year.

Well, at least we know where Scals, Powe, Big Baby, and AW will end up... I don't think Blount will be available on the waiver wire for blake.

- Mk

[mkogav]

Hakim Warrick and Peja.

sorry, have been ridiculously busy lately

That's not too bad for missing 2 rounds of the draft. Both could put up 2K points in this league.

- Mk

[yall hate]

i guess again that raises the veto issue...if the veto is in place, this trade has been agreed to with enough time to allow the veto procedure to take place (the first of the picks isnt scheduled till later tomorrow).  wouldnt it make sense to allow that procedure to come into play?  you would need two more people to publically come out...then however many we agreed to also back it up.


Roy Hobbs will be making my next pick for me.

It seems that other owners do not understand how disasterous this is for the league and how unfair it is, considering only mkgoav and me understood and vetoed the last one.

Think of it this way, there are still top 10 players from this years draft, last years, and the years before avaliable and a lot of really good young talent as well. There will still be a ton of good young talent avaliable in the next 3-4 rounds as well. Blake will likley be getting back a #15-#20 pick in this years draft from both you and Edgar because he boosted both of your teams so much. It's ridiculous honestly.

He will be getting a probable #15-#20 pick in this years draft for possibly 3 top 10 picks in the previous 3 drafts.

and i understand that-but i did ask you well before announcing the trade via a pm if this type of trade was still allowable.  you told me yes.  it would then seem out of fairness that it needs to be put to the league to decide whether to veto or not.  again, out of fairness, if edgar's trade was allowed and put to the veto vote, it seems like mine should be as well.

[Lucky17]

i guess again that raises the veto issue...if the veto is in place, this trade has been agreed to with enough time to allow the veto procedure to take place (the first of the picks isnt scheduled till later tomorrow).  wouldnt it make sense to allow that procedure to come into play?  you would need two more people to publically come out...then however many we agreed to also back it up.


Roy Hobbs will be making my next pick for me.

It seems that other owners do not understand how disasterous this is for the league and how unfair it is, considering only mkgoav and me understood and vetoed the last one.

Think of it this way, there are still top 10 players from this years draft, last years, and the years before avaliable and a lot of really good young talent as well. There will still be a ton of good young talent avaliable in the next 3-4 rounds as well. Blake will likley be getting back a #15-#20 pick in this years draft from both you and Edgar because he boosted both of your teams so much. It's ridiculous honestly.

He will be getting a probable #15-#20 pick in this years draft for possibly 3 top 10 picks in the previous 3 drafts.

I'm sorry, CD5, but if it's so disastrous, then there should have been a ban on trading future draft picks a) from the beginning, or b) after the last trade Blake made with Edgar.

Because there was no rule regarding the trading of these picks, this has to go to a league vote per the veto process.

To put it another way: if I were to trade Jason Kidd and Allen Iverson for Greg Oden and Adam Morrison, which is a horrible trade for me, simply because I want to lock up two young potential superstars, would you ban all player-for-player trades from happening? No. You'd ask the league to review the trade, and let the veto process decide.

The trade wasn't against the rules. There was no rule. I think it should be put to a vote, same as any other trade. If you want to close the barn door after the second horse has left, that's fine by me. [In fact, I strongly urge this course of action. It should have happened after the last case.]

But you can't reject this trade out of hand just because you think it's not a fair trade. That's for the league to decide, by veto.

My two cents.

[Edgar]

i guess again that raises the veto issue...if the veto is in place, this trade has been agreed to with enough time to allow the veto procedure to take place (the first of the picks isnt scheduled till later tomorrow).  wouldnt it make sense to allow that procedure to come into play?  you would need two more people to publically come out...then however many we agreed to also back it up.


Roy Hobbs will be making my next pick for me.

It seems that other owners do not understand how disasterous this is for the league and how unfair it is, considering only mkgoav and me understood and vetoed the last one.

Think of it this way, there are still top 10 players from this years draft, last years, and the years before avaliable and a lot of really good young talent as well. There will still be a ton of good young talent avaliable in the next 3-4 rounds as well. Blake will likley be getting back a #15-#20 pick in this years draft from both you and Edgar because he boosted both of your teams so much. It's ridiculous honestly.

He will be getting a probable #15-#20 pick in this years draft for possibly 3 top 10 picks in the previous 3 drafts.

I'm sorry, CD5, but if it's so disastrous, then there should have been a ban on trading future draft picks a) from the beginning, or b) after the last trade Blake made with Edgar.

Because there was no rule regarding the trading of these picks, this has to go to a league vote per the veto process.

To put it another way: if I were to trade Jason Kidd and Allen Iverson for Greg Oden and Adam Morrison, which is a horrible trade for me, simply because I want to lock up two young potential superstars, would you ban all player-for-player trades from happening? No. You'd ask the league to review the trade, and let the veto process decide.

The trade wasn't against the rules. There was no rule. I think it should be put to a vote, same as any other trade. If you want to close the barn door after the second horse has left, that's fine by me. [In fact, I strongly urge this course of action. It should have happened after the last case.]

But you can't reject this trade out of hand just because you think it's not a fair trade. That's for the league to decide, by veto.

My two cents.

And thats how  it works my friend

CD5 propose a VETO to the trade
10 votes needed to VETO


I Vote AGAINST The VETO

No reason needed but this trade is even more fair than mine so..Im ok with it.
BTW a comissiones cant say something and then react back arbitrary, Here we have a Democracy...Its the beauty of ur America.


The Time to vote about this one is from now till tomorrow, at the time Blakes pick is on the clock and the rights goes to yallhate, it there are not  10 negative votes posted

[The Walker Wiggle]

Hilarious. Who didn't see that coming?

That said, I oppose a ban on trading 1st round picks at this point, or any veto of y'all hate's trade. It's a least half as terrible as Blake's trade with Edgar.

So to be clear: Blake has currently Igoudala, Durant, Ford, Dalembert, and Green he'll be selecting again in the 10th, twice in the 14th, and in the 15th and 16th. That will give him ten of his starting eleven. He'll pick up the last starter and his bench off of the waiver wire.

P.S. Blake, I am hoping you might respond to explain your motivation RE: these last two trades. I know Edgar LOVES your strategy but I'm confused, and feel you could've gotten much better value and still acquired two future 1sts. (i.e., supply/demand - A number of GMs advertised their willingness to sell and so far you seem to be the only buyer.) Or to put another way, you could've had my '08 pick and a couple of late picks (say 11th and 15th?) for your just your 6th or 7th. (And I bet another GM would've topped that offer...)

[mkogav]

i guess again that raises the veto issue...if the veto is in place, this trade has been agreed to with enough time to allow the veto procedure to take place (the first of the picks isnt scheduled till later tomorrow).  wouldnt it make sense to allow that procedure to come into play?  you would need two more people to publically come out...then however many we agreed to also back it up.


Roy Hobbs will be making my next pick for me.

It seems that other owners do not understand how disasterous this is for the league and how unfair it is, considering only mkgoav and me understood and vetoed the last one.

Think of it this way, there are still top 10 players from this years draft, last years, and the years before avaliable and a lot of really good young talent as well. There will still be a ton of good young talent avaliable in the next 3-4 rounds as well. Blake will likley be getting back a #15-#20 pick in this years draft from both you and Edgar because he boosted both of your teams so much. It's ridiculous honestly.

He will be getting a probable #15-#20 pick in this years draft for possibly 3 top 10 picks in the previous 3 drafts.

I'm sorry, CD5, but if it's so disastrous, then there should have been a ban on trading future draft picks a) from the beginning, or b) after the last trade Blake made with Edgar.

Because there was no rule regarding the trading of these picks, this has to go to a league vote per the veto process.

To put it another way: if I were to trade Jason Kidd and Allen Iverson for Greg Oden and Adam Morrison, which is a horrible trade for me, simply because I want to lock up two young potential superstars, would you ban all player-for-player trades from happening? No. You'd ask the league to review the trade, and let the veto process decide.

The trade wasn't against the rules. There was no rule. I think it should be put to a vote, same as any other trade. If you want to close the barn door after the second horse has left, that's fine by me. [In fact, I strongly urge this course of action. It should have happened after the last case.]

But you can't reject this trade out of hand just because you think it's not a fair trade. That's for the league to decide, by veto.

My two cents.

And thats how  it works my friend

CD5 propose a VETO to the trade
10 votes needed to VETO


I Vote AGAINST The VETO

No reason needed but this trade is even more fair than mine so..Im ok with it.
BTW a comissiones cant say something and then react back arbitrary, Here we have a Democracy...Its the beauty of ur America.

I feel like Vincent Van Gogh when he woke up in Arles.

Did Theo get my letter? I guess not.

I agree with Edgar that this trade is more equitable. In my opinion it would have been fine w/o the 10th pick going to Hate, but what's a little more water through the dyke at Spaarndam?

Still I vote for a veto.

- Mk