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Re: If Celtics had Prime Shaq now, are we unstoppable?
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This coach and this system would see prime Shaq score 17pts a game and grab 12 rebs. The game change overall would see Shaqs blocks reduced but his steals increased. He would probably still get defensive player of the year votes. People forget how intimidating he was in the paint on defense.

Do they win, maybe they do? Still Shaq wouldn't be as dominate in this system. The threes and spacing would diminish his impact if they refuse to pass him the ball and just make him a screener (see Vuce in our system and Vuce had a decent shot).


 17 ppg per game Prime Shaq??? You must be joking. We have Tatum and what else? Breaking news Shaq is 10 times better than Tatum will ever be.

Shaq is good, this team is just a bad fit. They also refuse to change. So yeah I stand by what I said.

It just doesn't check out as anything other than an exaggerated shot at the Celtics' coaches.

Rudy Gobert averaged 14 and 13 two years ago, past his prime. Shaq was the most physically dominant big man of the past 50 years. It's just not the case that coaches on any team, let alone the Cs, are so blind as to not leverage an All-Time big man just because he doesn't shoot 3s (or whatever the objection is).

It's absolutely about the team and coaching. Not about Prime Shaq

Jalen Duren just averaged 20pts/11rebs playing 28mpg. Saying prime Shaq would average 17pts/12rebs in todays NBA, on any team with any coach is just silly.
The teams don't play the same way. What is so hard for y'all to accept. The team and these coaches don't play any deep post. They shoot threes and more threes. Guys coming to the team have said they were sat because they weren't taking enough threes. The team is all about the three. Look what ever big man does here. Nothing against Shaq this is the team. Look how JB got sent out. They want threes, they don't want a Shaq scoring unless it's a lob play or put back.


 Just accept the fact you are 100% wrong here. If  Joe can't adapt to prime Shaq you find a new coach. Shaq is an all time great. I can't believe how foolish some are being here.

You get rid of Joe and this heavily reliant on threes philosophy and then you get prime Shaq doing MVP year Giannis numbers at the minimum.

Re: If Celtics had Prime Shaq now, are we unstoppable?
« Reply #31 on: Today at 11:32:07 AM »

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This coach and this system would see prime Shaq score 17pts a game and grab 12 rebs. The game change overall would see Shaqs blocks reduced but his steals increased. He would probably still get defensive player of the year votes. People forget how intimidating he was in the paint on defense.

Do they win, maybe they do? Still Shaq wouldn't be as dominate in this system. The threes and spacing would diminish his impact if they refuse to pass him the ball and just make him a screener (see Vuce in our system and Vuce had a decent shot).


 17 ppg per game Prime Shaq??? You must be joking. We have Tatum and what else? Breaking news Shaq is 10 times better than Tatum will ever be.

Shaq is good, this team is just a bad fit. They also refuse to change. So yeah I stand by what I said.

It just doesn't check out as anything other than an exaggerated shot at the Celtics' coaches.

Rudy Gobert averaged 14 and 13 two years ago, past his prime. Shaq was the most physically dominant big man of the past 50 years. It's just not the case that coaches on any team, let alone the Cs, are so blind as to not leverage an All-Time big man just because he doesn't shoot 3s (or whatever the objection is).

It's absolutely about the team and coaching. Not about Prime Shaq

Jalen Duren just averaged 20pts/11rebs playing 28mpg. Saying prime Shaq would average 17pts/12rebs in todays NBA, on any team with any coach is just silly.
The teams don't play the same way. What is so hard for y'all to accept. The team and these coaches don't play any deep post. They shoot threes and more threes. Guys coming to the team have said they were sat because they weren't taking enough threes. The team is all about the three. Look what ever big man does here. Nothing against Shaq this is the team. Look how JB got sent out. They want threes, they don't want a Shaq scoring unless it's a lob play or put back.


 Just accept the fact you are 100% wrong here. If  Joe can't adapt to prime Shaq you find a new coach. Shaq is an all time great. I can't believe how foolish some are being here.

You get rid of Joe and this heavily reliant on threes philosophy and then you get prime Shaq doing MVP year Giannis numbers at the minimum.

Your argument is that you don?t like Joe. That is all. The coaching staff and GM are all on board with points in the paint.




From Brads end of year presser 2026:

"My general feeling watching us play in really each of the last two playoffs ... was, we had a hard time generating really good looks on that first shot," Stevens said. "So, we've got to figure out a way to do better in that."

"One of the things that we've got to figure out is how to have more of an impact at the rim, and I think we do need to add to our team to do that. Everybody plays a role in that, but at the end of (Game 7), (Sixers big man Joel) Embiid is standing at the rim on all those possessions, or a lot of those possessions."

That sure sounds like Stevens wants to add more frontcourt depth to complement the current tandem of Neemias Queta and Luka Garza -- or at least pursue a player who can create offense inside the 3-point line.

"I think the biggest thing is, can we generate looks at the rim?" Stevens said. "Yeah, everybody wants to do that, and every one of us would prefer a dunk over a 3. Every single one of us.
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

Re: If Celtics had Prime Shaq now, are we unstoppable?
« Reply #32 on: Today at 01:01:14 PM »

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This coach and this system would see prime Shaq score 17pts a game and grab 12 rebs. The game change overall would see Shaqs blocks reduced but his steals increased. He would probably still get defensive player of the year votes. People forget how intimidating he was in the paint on defense.

Do they win, maybe they do? Still Shaq wouldn't be as dominate in this system. The threes and spacing would diminish his impact if they refuse to pass him the ball and just make him a screener (see Vuce in our system and Vuce had a decent shot).


 17 ppg per game Prime Shaq??? You must be joking. We have Tatum and what else? Breaking news Shaq is 10 times better than Tatum will ever be.

Shaq is good, this team is just a bad fit. They also refuse to change. So yeah I stand by what I said.

It just doesn't check out as anything other than an exaggerated shot at the Celtics' coaches.

Rudy Gobert averaged 14 and 13 two years ago, past his prime. Shaq was the most physically dominant big man of the past 50 years. It's just not the case that coaches on any team, let alone the Cs, are so blind as to not leverage an All-Time big man just because he doesn't shoot 3s (or whatever the objection is).

It's absolutely about the team and coaching. Not about Prime Shaq

Jalen Duren just averaged 20pts/11rebs playing 28mpg. Saying prime Shaq would average 17pts/12rebs in todays NBA, on any team with any coach is just silly.
The teams don't play the same way. What is so hard for y'all to accept. The team and these coaches don't play any deep post. They shoot threes and more threes. Guys coming to the team have said they were sat because they weren't taking enough threes. The team is all about the three. Look what ever big man does here. Nothing against Shaq this is the team. Look how JB got sent out. They want threes, they don't want a Shaq scoring unless it's a lob play or put back.


 Just accept the fact you are 100% wrong here. If  Joe can't adapt to prime Shaq you find a new coach. Shaq is an all time great. I can't believe how foolish some are being here.

You get rid of Joe and this heavily reliant on threes philosophy and then you get prime Shaq doing MVP year Giannis numbers at the minimum.

Your argument is that you don?t like Joe. That is all. The coaching staff and GM are all on board with points in the paint.




From Brads end of year presser 2026:

"My general feeling watching us play in really each of the last two playoffs ... was, we had a hard time generating really good looks on that first shot," Stevens said. "So, we've got to figure out a way to do better in that."

"One of the things that we've got to figure out is how to have more of an impact at the rim, and I think we do need to add to our team to do that. Everybody plays a role in that, but at the end of (Game 7), (Sixers big man Joel) Embiid is standing at the rim on all those possessions, or a lot of those possessions."

That sure sounds like Stevens wants to add more frontcourt depth to complement the current tandem of Neemias Queta and Luka Garza -- or at least pursue a player who can create offense inside the 3-point line.

"I think the biggest thing is, can we generate looks at the rim?" Stevens said. "Yeah, everybody wants to do that, and every one of us would prefer a dunk over a 3. Every single one of us.
BS got them Vuce to try to get more post play and pick and pop. Joe showed us what he thought of post play. I can't put everything on BS. I know Joe is a problem.

Re: If Celtics had Prime Shaq now, are we unstoppable?
« Reply #33 on: Today at 01:32:44 PM »

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This coach and this system would see prime Shaq score 17pts a game and grab 12 rebs. The game change overall would see Shaqs blocks reduced but his steals increased. He would probably still get defensive player of the year votes. People forget how intimidating he was in the paint on defense.

Do they win, maybe they do? Still Shaq wouldn't be as dominate in this system. The threes and spacing would diminish his impact if they refuse to pass him the ball and just make him a screener (see Vuce in our system and Vuce had a decent shot).


 17 ppg per game Prime Shaq??? You must be joking. We have Tatum and what else? Breaking news Shaq is 10 times better than Tatum will ever be.

Shaq is good, this team is just a bad fit. They also refuse to change. So yeah I stand by what I said.

It just doesn't check out as anything other than an exaggerated shot at the Celtics' coaches.

Rudy Gobert averaged 14 and 13 two years ago, past his prime. Shaq was the most physically dominant big man of the past 50 years. It's just not the case that coaches on any team, let alone the Cs, are so blind as to not leverage an All-Time big man just because he doesn't shoot 3s (or whatever the objection is).

It's absolutely about the team and coaching. Not about Prime Shaq

Jalen Duren just averaged 20pts/11rebs playing 28mpg. Saying prime Shaq would average 17pts/12rebs in todays NBA, on any team with any coach is just silly.
The teams don't play the same way. What is so hard for y'all to accept. The team and these coaches don't play any deep post. They shoot threes and more threes. Guys coming to the team have said they were sat because they weren't taking enough threes. The team is all about the three. Look what ever big man does here. Nothing against Shaq this is the team. Look how JB got sent out. They want threes, they don't want a Shaq scoring unless it's a lob play or put back.


 Just accept the fact you are 100% wrong here. If  Joe can't adapt to prime Shaq you find a new coach. Shaq is an all time great. I can't believe how foolish some are being here.

You get rid of Joe and this heavily reliant on threes philosophy and then you get prime Shaq doing MVP year Giannis numbers at the minimum.

Your argument is that you don?t like Joe. That is all. The coaching staff and GM are all on board with points in the paint.




From Brads end of year presser 2026:

"My general feeling watching us play in really each of the last two playoffs ... was, we had a hard time generating really good looks on that first shot," Stevens said. "So, we've got to figure out a way to do better in that."

"One of the things that we've got to figure out is how to have more of an impact at the rim, and I think we do need to add to our team to do that. Everybody plays a role in that, but at the end of (Game 7), (Sixers big man Joel) Embiid is standing at the rim on all those possessions, or a lot of those possessions."

That sure sounds like Stevens wants to add more frontcourt depth to complement the current tandem of Neemias Queta and Luka Garza -- or at least pursue a player who can create offense inside the 3-point line.

"I think the biggest thing is, can we generate looks at the rim?" Stevens said. "Yeah, everybody wants to do that, and every one of us would prefer a dunk over a 3. Every single one of us.
BS got them Vuce to try to get more post play and pick and pop. Joe showed us what he thought of post play. I can't put everything on BS. I know Joe is a problem.

How many 3s does Queta average? Thinking Joe or any coach would tell Shaq to pass up dunks is just so silly man.
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Quoting Nick from the now locked Ime thread:
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.