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Re: Why haven't we addressed coaching?
« Reply #15 on: Yesterday at 12:47:37 PM »

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Celtics already have a lead assistant in Sam Casell. Who would people like to see as the Celtics add as a non-lead assistant?

A former head coach. Not to keep banging the Spurs drum, but another example is that Brett Brown is an assistant for the Spurs (in addition to Billy Donovan).

I think Roy pointed to SVG during the 2024 as a consultant, which I think did a lot of good for the squad.

I thought it was Jeff that did the consulting in 2024?

Re: Why haven't we addressed coaching?
« Reply #16 on: Yesterday at 12:59:50 PM »

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Celtics already have a lead assistant in Sam Casell. Who would people like to see as the Celtics add as a non-lead assistant?

A former head coach. Not to keep banging the Spurs drum, but another example is that Brett Brown is an assistant for the Spurs (in addition to Billy Donovan).

I think Roy pointed to SVG during the 2024 as a consultant, which I think did a lot of good for the squad.

I thought it was Jeff that did the consulting in 2024?

It 100% was. I was picturing Jeff but typed "SVG" for some reason. Don't get old, kids!

Re: Why haven't we addressed coaching?
« Reply #17 on: Yesterday at 03:53:48 PM »

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I don't understand how anybody in management has watched our team in the playoffs and said "Our biggest problem?  Jaylen Brown".  For whatever JB's faults, the reason we have lost to an underdog in 3 out of 4 seasons has little to do with JB, or his salary slot.

The biggest reasons we lost against the 76ers were 1) being unprepared, 2) not making adjustments either in-game or between games.  So, we saw the same offensive and defensive schemes exploited over and over again.   Brad addressed Queta's inability to stay on the floor by adding Robinson, but he's done little to answer why so many players showed a steep regression in the postseason.

The team clearly needs a fresh set of eyes on the bench.  Since the title team Charles Lee has left.  JVG has left.  The team's coaching is poorer than it was.

Joe isn't getting replaced, but why not supplement the bench?  It doesn't impact the salary cap, so why not invest in improving the team where we can?

I agree that Joe and his coaching staff made mistakes, however the reason the Cs lost the series to Philly was they had a terrible shooting series.  regular season FG% - 46.7%   3pt% - 36.7%
 
1st loss....FG%-39% (-7.7)     3pt%-26%  (-10.7)
2nd loss....FG%-40% (-6.7)    3pt%-28%  (-8.7)
3rd loss.... FG%- 44% (-2.7)   3pt%-33%  (-3.7)
4th loss.....FG%- 40% (-6.7)   3pt%-27%  (-9.7)

You need to make baskets to win.

You make baskets by creating quality shots, which does not include continuously setting league records for 3-point attempts each season.

All you have to do is look at Games 1 & 2 at home vs the Knicks in the second round of the 2025 playoffs, when the Celtics had second-half leads of 20+ points in both games and proceeded to blow those leads by jacking up multiple missed 3's and continuing to do so with the lead declining with no change made whatsoever in the offensive strategy. I've never seen anything that bad in all my years of playing, coaching and watching basketball at all levels. Tatum was not injured in either of those games.
Losing the 3-1 series lead this year to the Sixers just added insult to injury.
Stating that we lost because we had a terrible shooting series is kind of the point, don't you think ? Stop taking low percentage shots !!!!

Mazzulla is THE problem and until he is gone, we won't win another title.
For the life of me, I don't understand how Brad doesn't see this.
If Brad somehow thinks Mazzulla is a good coach, then he is the problem as well.

Please don't trot out the tired old comment that Joe won a title. Joe's team won a title in spite of him. They had an easy draw in the playoffs that was further facilitated by opponents sustaining injuries to their best players. We also had a high-quality post option in Porzingis, which almost forced the team to play more inside-out offense.

I certainly agree with the bolded....  the style that Charles Barkley occasionally calls "stupid"  is not stupid because taking threes is always bad.  It's stupid because it's sometimes bad.  The strategic and mental part of any sport requires constant adjustment, not sticking through with analytics no matter what the situation.   Joe may be the one sticking to closely to what he knows is Brad's analytics based approach, or, perhaps Brad is somehow influencing Joe to stick to the threes more than Joe would like (not sure, but I lean towards Joe not making in game adjustments as much as perhaps Stevens himself would), though when Stevens was still the coach I believe he received some of the exact same flak from Barkley that the Mazzula C's hear almost every post season.   

C's management can always come back and say, well, we didn't implement our system as well as we did in the regular season, or as well as we should have.  Or, we don't have the right players to follow through with our system.  Both of these are unsound approaches.  The playoffs are different than the regular season.  The defense is tougher, making it harder to hit uncontested threes.  The game pressure is greater, with more on the line, often making it harder to hit threes (clutch players aside).   

Not only that, the playoffs are simply where grittiness is rewarded.  Just launching threes is basically saying you'd like a walk in the park victory and not a gritty victory.  If you can hit them, fine.  If you're not hitting them, can't hit them, etc, are being defensed into not hitting them, etc. then continuing to take them is inviting losses in which you never really fought.   

Re: Why haven't we addressed coaching?
« Reply #18 on: Today at 05:57:29 AM »

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Amother thing that iritates me about Joe is that, despite his "analytical approach" to the game, he let Tatum shot 34% on  10 3PTAs per game a season ago. For me it is favoritism and not analytics, and I think it encourages Tatum to play a lazy game uncorrected. If I were his teammate I would be demoralized with such favoritism.
I suspect that Brown also felt such favoritism hence his complaint when the play style changed once Tatum was inserted back this season.

Re: Why haven't we addressed coaching?
« Reply #19 on: Today at 06:35:19 AM »

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I think it's more he trusts proven players more than favoritism.   A rook can be killing it and he will take them out for a minor mistake.   If you knew his college coach, you would understand, he was that way too.