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Re: Presser take aways.
« Reply #15 on: Today at 03:12:50 AM »

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Crap move, but whatever at this stage. If the fans start turning negative during games, it won't help anything. The best thing people can do is support the team and hope for the best, or at least give them a chance. Booing and being hostile at this stage would be completely counterproductive.

Especially with PG, it didn't go unnoticed that he waived his trade kicker. He must have wanted out of Philly, and that fan base had become pretty toxic. Replicating that here won't help anyone.

I'm expecting fans to boo the @#$% out of PG13...the fanbase will hate him. He's replacing a favorite son, everyone thinks he's a terrible return, his production these days, since he's a complementary player, more matches a $20-25m player than a $58m one, plus all his off court issues like the drugs and dumping Doc's daughter for a stripper who was his baby mama (who at least he married). I don't know if anyone could start off on the wronger foot in Boston  :angel:

It kind of reminds me of all the criticism Gordon Hayward got when he came back from his injury and was getting paid a max and everyone was criticizing him because he wasn't scoring "at the level we expect a max player to score", and was losing out to the likes of Mook and the Jays. I'm expecting much the same criticism when people see his production isn't matching that of Jaylen, advance stats be [dang]ed. That's much the same criticism that the Sixers had of him, when he was getting outscored by the likes of Maxey and VJ (who, it must be said, were trying to get paid and fill up the box score).
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Re: Presser take aways.
« Reply #16 on: Today at 03:29:41 AM »

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Crap move, but whatever at this stage. If the fans start turning negative during games, it won't help anything. The best thing people can do is support the team and hope for the best, or at least give them a chance. Booing and being hostile at this stage would be completely counterproductive.

Especially with PG, it didn't go unnoticed that he waived his trade kicker. He must have wanted out of Philly, and that fan base had become pretty toxic. Replicating that here won't help anyone.

I'm expecting fans to boo the @#$% out of PG13...the fanbase will hate him. He's replacing a favorite son, everyone thinks he's a terrible return, his production these days, since he's a complementary player, more matches a $20-25m player than a $58m one, plus all his off court issues like the drugs and dumping Doc's daughter for a stripper who was his baby mama (who at least he married). I don't know if anyone could start off on the wronger foot in Boston  :angel:

It kind of reminds me of all the criticism Gordon Hayward got when he came back from his injury and was getting paid a max and everyone was criticizing him because he wasn't scoring "at the level we expect a max player to score", and was losing out to the likes of Mook and the Jays. I'm expecting much the same criticism when people see his production isn't matching that of Jaylen, advance stats be [dang]ed. That's much the same criticism that the Sixers had of him, when he was getting outscored by the likes of Maxey and VJ (who, it must be said, were trying to get paid and fill up the box score).
That would be so stupid to boo Paul George.

Re: Presser take aways.
« Reply #17 on: Today at 03:50:36 AM »

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Crap move, but whatever at this stage. If the fans start turning negative during games, it won't help anything. The best thing people can do is support the team and hope for the best, or at least give them a chance. Booing and being hostile at this stage would be completely counterproductive.

Especially with PG, it didn't go unnoticed that he waived his trade kicker. He must have wanted out of Philly, and that fan base had become pretty toxic. Replicating that here won't help anyone.

I'm expecting fans to boo the @#$% out of PG13...the fanbase will hate him. He's replacing a favorite son, everyone thinks he's a terrible return, his production these days, since he's a complementary player, more matches a $20-25m player than a $58m one, plus all his off court issues like the drugs and dumping Doc's daughter for a stripper who was his baby mama (who at least he married). I don't know if anyone could start off on the wronger foot in Boston  :angel:

It kind of reminds me of all the criticism Gordon Hayward got when he came back from his injury and was getting paid a max and everyone was criticizing him because he wasn't scoring "at the level we expect a max player to score", and was losing out to the likes of Mook and the Jays. I'm expecting much the same criticism when people see his production isn't matching that of Jaylen, advance stats be [dang]ed. That's much the same criticism that the Sixers had of him, when he was getting outscored by the likes of Maxey and VJ (who, it must be said, were trying to get paid and fill up the box score).
That would be so stupid to boo Paul George.

Fans generally tend to be emotion based, not reason based  ;D
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Re: Presser take aways.
« Reply #18 on: Today at 04:58:12 AM »

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I would like to think the average Celtics fan has the critical thinking skills of at least a five year old and would not boo Paul George.

My takeaways:

* Chisholm was clearly reluctant to say they want to avoid the tax one more year. However, you could tell he was also itching to say that they are going to start spending again soon. Just feels like next year is not that year.

* Brad did not think our team looked like a contender the last two years in the playoffs. He wants the opportunity to re-tool for the future and make the most of Tatum and his prime years. Getting picks allows him to do that.

* Brad mentioned a couple young guys garnering larger contracts in the future and that he wants the chance to retain some. I imagine he is thinking of a couple specifically.
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Re: Presser take aways.
« Reply #19 on: Today at 05:28:55 AM »

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OK fine. So to be competitive for championships the next 5 years, we could not sink most of our salary into two players and limit our ability to fill needs as we see them.

My concerns:
Still can't help but think we could have done better than Paul George and future picks for an All-NBA player.
If we are in reality shooting for '27-'28 to be a serious contender again and are picking our competitive seasons as the roster dictates, what is going to be done to protect Tatum's health during the "in-between" years, 'cause Joe doesn't have enough sense to manage that on his own.
We gained roster flexibility, but have the same playoff-incompetent coach who designed the offense that literally shot us out of the playoffs two years in a row.
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« Reply #20 on: Today at 05:46:20 AM »

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* Brad did not think our team looked like a contender the last two years in the playoffs. He wants the opportunity to re-tool for the future and make the most of Tatum and his prime years. Getting picks allows him to do that.

I get him thinking last year's team wasn't a contender but how in the world was the team two years ago not a contender?

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« Reply #21 on: Today at 06:23:22 AM »

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* Brad did not think our team looked like a contender the last two years in the playoffs. He wants the opportunity to re-tool for the future and make the most of Tatum and his prime years. Getting picks allows him to do that.

I get him thinking last year's team wasn't a contender but how in the world was the team two years ago not a contender?

They were so hurt entering the playoffs two years ago.  Jaylen had a torn meniscus, KP could barely stand up, Jrue had a shoulder injury and finger injury entering the playoffs, and then hurt his hamstring, etc.

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« Reply #22 on: Today at 06:55:05 AM »

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I'm expecting fans to boo the @#$% out of PG13...the fanbase will hate him. He's replacing a favorite son, everyone thinks he's a terrible return, his production these days, since he's a complementary player, more matches a $20-25m player than a $58m one, plus all his off court issues like the drugs and dumping Doc's daughter for a stripper who was his baby mama (who at least he married). I don't know if anyone could start off on the wronger foot in Boston  :angel:

I hope not.  It is not like he did this trade, I think more onus will be on  Chisholm after his disingenuous press conference.   People are starting to see the pattern.  Boston fans are smart, they know not all these decisions are basketball based. 

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Listening to the talk about the cap under the new CBA was intriguing.  I wonder, has the NBA backed itself into a corner.  What are teams like SAS, OKC, PHI, and others going to do when these max contracts hit.
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« Reply #24 on: Today at 07:24:29 AM »

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Listening to the talk about the cap under the new CBA was intriguing.  I wonder, has the NBA backed itself into a corner.  What are teams like SAS, OKC, PHI, and others going to do when these max contracts hit.

It is what Adam Silver wanted.  He did not want another Golden State, and no team has even won its conference in consecutive years since 2018-2019.  The Celtics and Heat are the only two teams to have been to multiple finals in the last 7 seasons.  I do not think he feels he has backed anything into a corner.  Everything is right where he wants it to be.  OKC is way over the second apron this year, and is going to have lose a lot of players next summer, if they do not get rid of them sooner.  This is even after they dumped two rotation players this offseason.  Next year they are losing one of Williams or Holmgren, or else they are getting rid of/letting walk several other players (likely including all of Dort, Caruso, and Cason Wallace).