Messing around Part 2 (SAC/BOS)

[Roy H.]

SAC trades:  D. Sabonis, D. Carter
SAC receives: D. White, S. Hauser, 2027 #1, 2030 + 2032 pick swaps

BOS trades:  D. White, S. Hauser, 2027 #1, 2030 + 2032 pick swaps
BOS receives: D. Sabonis, D. Carter

Sabonis / Queta
Tatum
Brown
Scheierman
Pritchard / Carter

... then, we sign Demar Derozan after they cut him, and Taurean Prince as a free agent.

Sabonis / Queta / Garza / Williams
Tatum / Prince / CC
Brown / Derozan
Scheierman / Harper / Hugo
Pritchard / Carter

I have no idea how motivated Sacramento is to move Sabonis, but I'd rather have him + Brown, rather than moving Brown for Sengun.

[Phantom255x]

I'm higher on Sabonis than most, so I'd probably do that. And lets face it, there really aren't many better options than Sabonis available for center this offseason.

[Goldstar88]

Not interested in Sabonis. He is not a good defender and very limited offensively. He isn?t worth the money he makes.

[Roy H.]

Not interested in Sabonis. He is not a good defender and very limited offensively. He isn?t worth the money he makes.

Very limited offensively?

You mean, besides being an excellent scorer from everywhere and a very good passer and offensive rebounder?

[Celtics2021]

I would rather trade Brown for Sabonis and a heap of draft picks.  Sacramento, New Orleans, and Washington draft picks are always worth acquiring.  They can send Devin Carter too.  They are just wasting him.

[Roy H.]

I would rather trade Brown for Sabonis and a heap of draft picks.  Sacramento, New Orleans, and Washington draft picks are always worth acquiring.  They can send Devin Carter too.  They are just wasting him.

Sadly they have made themselves a second apron team, so as of right now they couldn't trade for Brown.  I'm not sure how easy their path out of it is.  Maybe waiving DeRoran is enough.

[Celtics2021]

I would rather trade Brown for Sabonis and a heap of draft picks.  Sacramento, New Orleans, and Washington draft picks are always worth acquiring.  They can send Devin Carter too.  They are just wasting him.

Sadly they have made themselves a second apron team, so as of right now they couldn't trade for Brown.  I'm not sure how easy their path out of it is.  Maybe waiving DeRoran is enough.

Waiving Derozan saves them $15.7 million, while waiving and stretching saves them $22.4 million.  They are incompetent, so you never know, but no one believe that DeRozan will not be waived.  (Reportedly they are trying to trade him first, but that seems unlikely to work since his outgoing is only $10 million while his incoming is $25.7 million).  They can make the room.

[Goldstar88]

Not interested in Sabonis. He is not a good defender and very limited offensively. He isn?t worth the money he makes.

Very limited offensively?

You mean, besides being an excellent scorer from everywhere and a very good passer and offensive rebounder?

Roy, he has no jump shot lol. Sabonis was 19% from 3pt this year. He can score in the paint. That?s about it.  He is also smaller than I thought at 6?10/240lbs.

[Celtics2021]

Not interested in Sabonis. He is not a good defender and very limited offensively. He isn?t worth the money he makes.

Very limited offensively?

You mean, besides being an excellent scorer from everywhere and a very good passer and offensive rebounder?

Roy, he has no jump shot lol. Was 19% from 3pt this year. He can score in the paint. That?s about it.

Sure, we can look at his 5-27 performance from three in a year he was hurt, or his 39.6% performance on 326 attempts over his prior three seasons.  I know which one I would make a decision on, and it relies on more than 27 attempts.

[Roy H.]

Not interested in Sabonis. He is not a good defender and very limited offensively. He isn?t worth the money he makes.

Very limited offensively?

You mean, besides being an excellent scorer from everywhere and a very good passer and offensive rebounder?

Roy, he has no jump shot lol. Sabonis was 19% from 3pt this year. He can score in the paint. That?s about it.  He is also smaller than I thought at 6?10/240lbs.

Ok, so you don't watch west coast teams.

[Who]

I didn't realize Sabonis missed so many games last year. Only 19 games played due to injury.

[Who]

I would go with Goldstar88 on Sabonis being limited offensively. A bit overstated but yeah.

2022-23

836 of his 1,037 shots came inside of 10 feet. So 80% of his offense within 10 feet of the basket.

2023-24

892 of his 1,096 shots came within 10 feet. Again 80% of his offense.

2024-25

667 of his 907 shots came within 10 feet. So 73-74% of his offense came within 10 feet. Better. Still a high number though.

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Sabonis isn't much of a threat to score from outside the paint. He makes an occasional shot here and there. Not much. He is driving threat from 17-20 feet but that is to finish in the paint.

He is not much of a floor spacer. He is not a non-shooter but he is a low volume jump-shooter. He doesn't offer that much value as a shooter or as a scorer away from the basket.

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I also think his interior scoring is dodgy. He is capable of being shut down by quality athletes / interior defenders. He is not a dependable go-to inside come playoff time.

A regular season warrior / playoff pretender.

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His passing does offer large offensive value.

[Celtics2021]

I didn't realize Sabonis missed so many games last year. Only 19 games played due to injury.

Yes, meniscus tear.  Same surgery JB went through last May, except he had his in the middle of the season and then SAC was tanking so no need to rush back.

[Who]

The question in my mind is D Sabonis any better than D White? I am not sure he is.

I am inclined to go with D White over Sabonis though. The reason being D White is a strong two-way player who can play both guard positions and is built for playoff basketball.

Whereas Sabonis is a center who doesn't play defense so is a one-way player and is an inconsistent scoring threat against playoff caliber teams which makes him a dodgy one-way player.

Then you add Sabonis is more expensive than White.