TPE big man options?

[Csfan1984]

Was thinking Bucks owe us a favor so Tuner for TPE and a 1st. May be a good option.

What other big guys can fit into the TPE and still offer inside play and outside shooting that are better than Turner at this price?

[celticinorlando]

I have no idea what Brad does and where he goes with this roster.

[boscel33]

Amari?  Seeing reports he went from 6'11" to 7'2".  I said during the season, maybe they have their big already.

[Csfan1984]

I have no idea what Brad does and where he goes with this roster.

They need a second guard who can attack at the PG position as White is too slow at PG now. White is pretty much a SG who can't shoot right now.

They need a big man that can defend and still stretch the floor. Which is why Turner makes sense to me.

Solve those two problems without giving up too much and the roster is set.

[celticinorlando]

Amari?  Seeing reports he went from 6'11" to 7'2".  I said during the season, maybe they have their big already.

I think that all was a joke. And if they are counting on Williams to be their big with Queta and Garza...then this season is lost before it starts.

[jambr380]

Turner sucks, especially at his contract. The Bulls just got Claxton for literally nothing and he makes less than Turner. I will seriously start to question Brad?s judgment if he trades for Turner.

[Csfan1984]

Turner sucks, especially at his contract. The Bulls just got Claxton for literally nothing and he makes less than Turner. I will seriously start to question Brad?s judgment if he trades for Turner.

Turner has had good seasons and playoff runs. Fit and motivation are more likely the issue with him but that's the case for a lot of NBA players that been well paid. I feel here with the Js he could step up his game again.

[ozgod]

The Non-Taxpayer TPE is approx. $15.1m.

Assuming we don't waive anyone, the most we can spend before going over the luxury tax line is $13.3m, which would fit into the TPE.

If we are determined to use the full TPE, it would cause us to go over the luxury tax line this season and prevent us from resetting the repeater tax rates for next season. Alternatively we could decide not to give big extensions to PP, Queta, Baylor, Garza, Harper and Walsh next season and let some of them walk and try and get under the luxury tax then. Or we as fans with no skin in the game could take the position of "to hell with the luxury tax, Bill bought this franchise, he should spend whatever it takes, whenever it takes, to give us a championship product" 

Here is a list of free agents, in descending order of their previous AAV (Avg Annual Value).

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The full list, including the vet min guys, is at https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/available/_/year/2026

[ozgod]

Turner sucks, especially at his contract. The Bulls just got Claxton for literally nothing and he makes less than Turner. I will seriously start to question Brad?s judgment if he trades for Turner.

Turner has had good seasons and playoff runs. Fit and motivation are more likely the issue with him but that's the case for a lot of NBA players that been well paid. I feel here with the Js he could step up his game again.

The issue is that Myles has a long history of underachievement. Queta has higher level of production at a tenth of the cost. Are we getting him because he's a Name or because we feel he can add value? Plus if people were ragging on our bigs for not banging inside, Myles is even less of an inside presence than any of our current bigs. He's not a rebounder, his shooting efficiency is poor and over half the shots he takes are 3s. Plus he's making $26m-$29m over the next 3 years, which means he won't fit into the TPE or the MLE, it would have to be a trade. Is he the best way for us to blow ourselves over the luxury tax line?

Here is he compared with Q over the past season.

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I feel if this happened it would be a FOMO trade from Brad, a desperation move to make us get something after missing out on Giannis, and Brad doesn't strike me as a FOMO trader 

[celticinorlando]

It is probably going to be Rob isn't it? Another guy made of glass.

The issue with Queta is he cannot defend the bigs in the East in the playoffs. He simply cannot stay on the floor. Sure he had a nice regular season but he is not a starting center when it comes down to it. Really good #2 center but not going to help you in the playoffs when you need him most.

[Csfan1984]

Hard to compare a tank year to someone playing with the Cs and not being covered.

[jambr380]

Turner sucks, especially at his contract. The Bulls just got Claxton for literally nothing and he makes less than Turner. I will seriously start to question Brad?s judgment if he trades for Turner.

Turner has had good seasons and playoff runs. Fit and motivation are more likely the issue with him but that's the case for a lot of NBA players that been well paid. I feel here with the Js he could step up his game again.

Sucks is harsh, but he is really uninspiring. I'd take him as a FA for the MLE (which obviously isn't available), but have no desire to go into the tax for him. I'd honestly still want to start Queta if we did acquire Turner. There are other comparable options that will cost a lot less. Unless we are getting a clear upgrade on Queta, we shouldn't be spending big on the Center position.

[KeepBigAl]

Amari?  Seeing reports he went from 6'11" to 7'2".  I said during the season, maybe they have their big already.

I think that all was a joke. And if they are counting on Williams to be their big with Queta and Garza...then this season is lost before it starts.

Agree, I went into last season saying this was the worst big man rotation I've seen in my fandom going back to the 80s (including posting this on these boards).

I was proven wrong to a degree during the season with the better than expected play of Queta and somewhat Garza.  However, better than expected turned out to not be good enough in the playoffs.  We obviously need help and more size here if we wish to make any kind of run.

[A Future of Stevens]

Turner sucks, especially at his contract. The Bulls just got Claxton for literally nothing and he makes less than Turner. I will seriously start to question Brad?s judgment if he trades for Turner.

Turner has had good seasons and playoff runs. Fit and motivation are more likely the issue with him but that's the case for a lot of NBA players that been well paid. I feel here with the Js he could step up his game again.

Sucks is harsh, but he is really uninspiring. I'd take him as a FA for the MLE (which obviously isn't available), but have no desire to go into the tax for him. I'd honestly still want to start Queta if we did acquire Turner. There are other comparable options that will cost a lot less. Unless we are getting a clear upgrade on Queta, we shouldn't be spending big on the Center position.

I believe that is the hard part about upgrading from Queta. In 25 mpg last year he averaged 10/8/1.3 blocks. He is only on a 2.6 million team option next year.

If we find a noticeably better replacement, the cap hit will be disproportionately higher. If we commit, it has to be the right upgrade.

[Who]

I like Myles Turner.

I do think he is an upgrade on Queta but not a big upgrade. The big upgrade is having 48min of quality center player instead of 25mpg that we had last year. That is the upgrade M Turner brings.

I would start Turner over Queta. Turner is a good two-way player. He causes matchup problems. Queta doesn't. Queta is a basic rim runner. He only has a matchup advantage when the other team has no credible center.

M Turner would also be a good fit for our 3pt heavy offense which he would excel with. He will pull opposing centers out of the paint and make it easier for Jaylen & Tatum to get to the basket and finish.