Joe Mazzula Wins Coach Of The Year

[Roy H.]

Brad Stevens noted that despite winning 56 regular-season games, the Boston Celtics were just 3-11 against the other top-three seeds in each conference

This is telling.  It shows that the good teams were able to expose the Celtics' weaknesses during the regular season.  There are a lot of regular season nights where the opposing team is flat or doesn't even try.  BOS played hard every night for the most part, scrapped and overachieved.  That is a testament to Mazzulla's coaching and Brown's leadership.  But the roster had flaws.  I think Stevens has this right.

Many don't agree but I think Mazzulla is a good young coach.  I further believe that Brad Stevens believes this too.  Just like the roster has some holes or weaknesses, Mazzulla does too.  But do you throw out the baby with the bathwater and fire Mazzulla?  Are you really sure the next coach will actually be better?  Spoelstra was a good young coach with some flaws at a point also.  This is probably true of all good or great coaches.

It is an old adage that coaches get too much credit for winning and too much blame for loosing.  MIA series, bad coaching or nobody MIA players shooting 50% from 3?  DAL series, good coaching or team that won in spite of bad coaching?  PHI series, bad coaching or a team/roster that wasn't as good as it seemed?  You can play any of these any way you want.

I think the first step is to get Joe some assistants that are good at identifying and implementing adjustments.

[Donoghus]

It is an old adage that coaches get too much credit for winning and too much blame for loosing.  MIA series, bad coaching or nobody MIA players shooting 50% from 3?  DAL series, good coaching or team that won in spite of bad coaching?  PHI series, bad coaching or a team/roster that wasn't as good as it seemed?  You can play any of these any way you want.

This.  The failures have been a combination of lack of adjustments (and questionable rotation moves)  by the coaching staff, some horrible execution by the players (some very low BBIQ play) and also just some strokes of bad luck. 

Mazzulla and Jaylen seem to be getting the bulk of the bashing on these parts (excessively so, IMO) but the blame runs deep on every playoff failure the past 3 of 4 seasons.

[Roy H.]

It is an old adage that coaches get too much credit for winning and too much blame for loosing.  MIA series, bad coaching or nobody MIA players shooting 50% from 3?  DAL series, good coaching or team that won in spite of bad coaching?  PHI series, bad coaching or a team/roster that wasn't as good as it seemed?  You can play any of these any way you want.

This.  The failures have been a combination of lack of adjustments (and questionable rotation moves)  by the coaching staff, some horrible execution by the players (some very low BBIQ play) and also just some strokes of bad luck. 

Mazzulla and Jaylen seem to be getting the bulk of the bashing on these parts (excessively so, IMO) but the blame runs deep on every playoff failure the past 3 of 4 seasons.

I definitely wouldn't blame just those two.  It was a total team effort to suck that badly.  I think that every single player played beneath expectations on at least one end of the floor, with the possible exception of JT.

[Goldstar88]

Mazz is an excellent coach and there was no one else who should have won this award this year. 

The problems we've seen in the playoffs is one of roster construction and talent.

Yeah, most thought the Celtics would be lucky to make the playoffs and they finished a 2 seed. Also went 9-2 in the games Jaylen Brown did not play in this season. Joe got the most out of the team he was given.

No, he didn't.  He lost to a #7 seed that promptly got swept by a NY team that wasn't at full strength. 

Joe has only won in the playoffs when we had five guys with all-star talent.  We've been upset three out of four seasons by a lower seed, including losing to the #7 and #8 seed.

I think the roster was exposed in the playoffs. Brad basically said as much in his year end interview. He noted that their record during the season against the top teams in the league was not good.

Brad Stevens noted that despite winning 56 regular-season games, the Boston Celtics were just 3-11 against the other top-three seeds in each conference

What is Brad supposed to say?  "Our players choked and Joe sucked"? 

It's interesting that we've had 10+ more regular season wins than every team we've lost to under Joe.

The year we did win, we had 16+ more wins than everybody we faced.

I mean, he did criticize the players. Why didn?t Brad say, I think we are shooting too many 3?s, I don?t think we had a good game plan in the playoffs. It does not seem like Brad thinks Joe is the issue. If he did, Joe probably wouldn?t be here.

[Who]

In seriousness Joe deserves a lot of credit in papering over the Celtics flaws during the regular season, largely because he got all the players to buy in, particularly the bench and the lesser names, even if some of them sat for long stretches. Players like Q, Walsh, Hugo, Garza, Simons, Baylor and Harper were all instrumental in the team significantly exceeding expectations during the regular season.

Unfortunately the playoffs, being a 7 game series and more about matchups, have a way of unmasking weaknesses. And our weaknesses were unmasked by a team that eventually matched up well against us - we had nobody to defend Embiid, who was at 70%, all our centers got into foul trouble against him. And we had nobody to defend Maxey at the point of attack. And they went away from the strategy they had employed throughout the regular season, which was to take less 3s and more midrange and paint shots, back to one where they took a lot more perimeter shots (and to make it worse they missed them more often than their average).

I wonder if that is just a knock-on effect of having Tatum back. Tatum is a high volume 3pt shooter. He has taken 8-10 threes per game in the regular season for the last 5 years. 8.9 threes in 16 games this year. He took 8.7 per game in the playoffs.

Not strategy. Just personnel.

Only 10 players in the entire league took 8+ three pointers this season.

It would not surprise me if that difference in team shot selection & the increase in three pointers was entirely down to Tatum being back in the lineup.

[Roy H.]

Mazz is an excellent coach and there was no one else who should have won this award this year. 

The problems we've seen in the playoffs is one of roster construction and talent.

Yeah, most thought the Celtics would be lucky to make the playoffs and they finished a 2 seed. Also went 9-2 in the games Jaylen Brown did not play in this season. Joe got the most out of the team he was given.

No, he didn't.  He lost to a #7 seed that promptly got swept by a NY team that wasn't at full strength. 

Joe has only won in the playoffs when we had five guys with all-star talent.  We've been upset three out of four seasons by a lower seed, including losing to the #7 and #8 seed.

I think the roster was exposed in the playoffs. Brad basically said as much in his year end interview. He noted that their record during the season against the top teams in the league was not good.

Brad Stevens noted that despite winning 56 regular-season games, the Boston Celtics were just 3-11 against the other top-three seeds in each conference

What is Brad supposed to say?  "Our players choked and Joe sucked"? 

It's interesting that we've had 10+ more regular season wins than every team we've lost to under Joe.

The year we did win, we had 16+ more wins than everybody we faced.

I mean, he did criticize the players. Why didn?t Brad say, I think we are shooting too many 3?s, I don?t think we had a good game plan in the playoffs. It does not seem like Brad thinks Joe is the issue. If he did, Joe probably wouldn?t be here.

Which individual player did he call out?