Proposed Jaylen Brown Trade Ideas

[perks-a-beast]

How about this one if we absolutely MUST trade Jaylen - which I still prefer not to.

BOS outgoing:
Jaylen Brown
Sam Hauser
Jordan Walsh

BOS incoming:
Toumani Camara
Jrue Holiday
Santi Aldama
Walter Clayton Jr.
2027 1st from MEM (best of MIN, UTA, CLE)
2028 MIL Swap from POR
2031 POR 1st
2033 POR 1st

POR outgoing:
Toumani Camara
Jrue Holiday
Shaedon Sharpe
3 1sts

POR incoming:
Jaylen Brown
Sam Hauser
Jordan Walsh

MEM outgoing:
Santi Aldama
Walter Clayton
1st

MEM incoming:
Shaedon Sharpe

Grizzlies roster is a log jam right now. I think consolidating some of their talent while making a high upside swing on a player like Sharpe makes a ton of sense, especially at a position of need for them.

Portland gives up a lot but get to keep Henderson and Clingan. They get easily the best player in the trade as well as some much needed shooting in Hauser and bench depth in Walsh.

Let?s break it down for Boston.

Toumani Camara. Roughly 4 years/$80m left on his deal. Far from the offensive talent JB is, but has blossomed into one of the best 3 and D guys in the league who can do as good a job as anyone defending the opposing teams best wing every game. I view him as a very good fit next to Tatum.


Jrue Holiday. 2 years/$72m left on his deal. I was stunned when I learned that Cleveland could have traded for Holiday instead of Harden- simply because Jrue has a ton left in the tank, even for a 36 going on 37 year old. He knows the Celtics system and brings needed guard depth. The alternative would be taking on Jerami Grants contract - no thank you.

Santi Aldama. 2 years/$34m left on his deal, with a players option in 27-28.  I have long been a fan of Aldama. Hes kind of like a poor mans KP. 7 feet tall. Average 14/7/3 last season and shot 35% from behind the arc. Not the most physically gifted defender but really tries.

Walter Clayton. Rookie contract. I liked Clayton a lot leading up to the 2025 draft, and I think Brad would have gladly taken him had he fell to Boston. Nice upside swing on a high motor guy.

2027 MEM 1st (most favorable of CLE, MIN, UTA). not the juiciest pick (barring injuries) but another 1st in whata projected to be a deep draft.

2028 MIL Swap. Really good pick since I?m fairly certain MIL will still be awful in 2 years.

2031 and 2033 1sts for POR. JB will be in his mid thirties and who knows where the team will be in 5-7 years time.

Leaves the Celtics with:

PG: Payton Pritchard
SG: Derrick White
SF: Toumani Camara
PF: Jayson Tatum
C: Neemias Queta

Bench
PG: Jrue Holiday
SG: Hugo Gonzalez
SF: Baylor Scheierman
PF: Santi Aldama
C: Luka Garza

Deep bench

PG: Walter Clayton
SG: Ron Harper
SF: Dillon Mitchell
PF: Chris Cenac
C: Amari Williams

Im not saying this is a sexy trade - its definitely not. But if the relationship between JB and the Celtics is irreparable, and other teams know that and use it as leverage, Brad could do a lot worse.  This gives the team much more options moving forward with more tradable contracts and draft capital.

This does not make Boston a title contender next year - I dont think there is a trade out there that does. But I honestly think this trade makes the team better in the future AND potentially makes them better than last years team. If I were Tatum and thinking about my future with the team, I would view a trade like this, which gives the team a real defensive identity- as well as depth- as a step in the right direction.

[Who]

Listening to Brian Robb and Jay King. It was mostly about LaMelo & Trae Young but had a little bit on Jaylen at the end. 2 days old. Not much of interest there but there was 1 interesting point / question.

So Jay King pointed out that BOS felt Jaylen had less trade value than Giannis because they were willing to pay Jaylen & 2 first round picks for Giannis. So he asked, how would you view the offer from Miami minus 2 first round picks for Jaylen?

- Tyler Herro
- K Ware
- Jaime Jaquez
- Kasparas Jakucionis

- 1 first round pick
- 1 pick swap first rounder
- 1 2nd rounder

It was an interesting question.

And an interesting barometer of Jaylen's trade value.

It also seems to line up closer to some of the trade offers (like POR) that we are seeing reported that feel underwhelming. The lack of top tier star equivalent. A sub All-Star, a solid young big, a 6th man, a pick and a low level prospect.

[Celtics2021]

He is owed $70 million over the next two seasons, and that proposal costs $10 million more than JB, bringing the Celtics right up to the tax line

Jaylen Brown cost the next two years is  $57,078,728 and $61,015,192 respectively, and that totals 118,093,920 for the next two years how is that more than Grant's 70 million?  I know there will be other salaries.   But the comment he costs more than Brown is not true.   He makes $34,206,898  next year and has a player option the year after that for $36,413,790.   Then he will be off the books at the end of 2027-28.  Brown at that time still is on the books for more year for $64,951,656 in 2928-29. Then comes off the books at 2029-30.  What math am I missing here?


https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/_/id/20208/jaylen-brown

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/_/id/15391/jerami-grant


I agree J. Grant has been in decline some.   We may have to take what the market is offering if moving him was the goal.  He shot 38.9 from downtown and averaged 18.6 PPG last year.   His rebounding is terrible for a forward at 3.5 PPG.    I think while not ideal, he is still a better player than Wallace was when he came to us.     I do like getting Sharpe who is locked into 20 million for 4 years and who is a 20 PPG who can attack the rim but is only a 33 3p shooter.

I would to get him and trade for Kessler immediately.

I bolded the key words you quoted from me: that proposal.  Grant + Sharpe + Scoot costs $67.8 million next season.  Jaylen costs $57 million.  That is $10 million more, nearly $11 million.  The Celtics are currently a little under $14 million from the tax line, so that trio would vaporize tax space, and all three might be bench players for us.  The Celtics should not take on the same or more long-term money in a deal for vastly lesser players, at the benefit of only two picks. 

The Celtics at a minimum need one of the following three things: a boatload of outright picks, substantial cap and tax relief, or three quality players, two of whom would be capable of starting on this year?s Brownless team and last year?s Tatumless version of this team.  Preferably they would get two of those theee things.  This deal provides zero.

[Vermont Green]

The Celtics at a minimum need one of the following three things: a boatload of outright picks, substantial cap and tax relief, or three quality players, two of whom would be capable of starting on this year's Brownless team and last year's Tatumless version of this team.  Preferably they would get two of those three things.  This deal provides zero.

This all makes sense, you need to get something of value for Brown or why trade him.  Whatever they do has to be better than adding a couple of pieces around Tatum and Brown and running with that.  If the trade is for a bunch of picks, then they need to flip those picks in the short terms to rebuild the team now, not in the future.

The idea of Scoot, Sharpe, Grant, and picks does not do it for me unless they are able to flip these assets and get some starter level players from another team.  That package seems like something MIL would have been interested in but I don't see how it works for BOS.