Proposed Jaylen Brown Trade Ideas

[Who]

Jaylen is a first team NBA caliber guy in his prime. It should take a godfather type offer - promising young players, lucrative draft capital, and solid rotational pieces to pry him away from Boston. In no world am I trading him for an aging player who can?t stay on the court in Giannis

Not really. Jaylen might make this season but this is an outlier. He is unlikely to ever make the First Team All NBA ever again. He is not even a clear cut All NBA second team guy (top 10 player in the league). He is more generally in that 10-20 range somewhere with opinions varying. That is where his trade value is.

[Vermont Green]

How about this 3 way trade

BOS - Giannis
CLE - Brown
MIL - Mobley, Merrill, Hugo, 27, 29, BOS 27 1st

Do trade after draft so Boston can trade the 27 1st.  So Boston trade Brown Hugo, and 2 late 1st's for Giannis.  Seems reasonable.  Cleveland trades Mobley, Merrill, and a late 1st for Brown, which seems reasonable if they go all in around Mitchell and Harden. Milwaukee gets a 24 year old DPOY, 3 1st's, a recent 1st, and a decent youngish role player. Seems reasonable.

No idea if even any teams would do that, but it does seemingly fit what all those teams might do this summer.

Not sure I wouldn?t rather have Mobley, Merrill, and two firsts.  This over giving up Hugo and a first, on top of Brown. 

[jambr380]

Jaylen is a first team NBA caliber guy in his prime. It should take a godfather type offer - promising young players, lucrative draft capital, and solid rotational pieces to pry him away from Boston. In no world am I trading him for an aging player who can?t stay on the court in Giannis

Not really. Jaylen might make this season but this is an outlier. He is unlikely to ever make the First Team All NBA ever again. He is not even a clear cut All NBA second team guy (top 10 player in the league). He is more generally in that 10-20 range somewhere with opinions varying. That is where his trade value is.

Yeah, I don't think any GM really rates Jaylen as a top 5 or 6 guy, but if they do, then that bodes really well for us. He's not even 30, has 3 years left on his deal, is generally healthy, and highly motivated.

The ending to the year might have been a major disappointment, but Jaylen's performance during the regular season might have tricked somebody into thinking he was a superstar. We weren't having Giannis or even Mobley discussions with Jaylen last year because that would have been an impossibility.

[SparzWizard]

Some of the folks here are overrating Jaylen Brown really hard. If he was so godly-tiered, he'd already be all-nba first team, NBA MVP, Olympic gold medalist champion etc.

He's essentially the Paul George or maybe a Khris Middleton with a higher athletic ceiling.

But ofc, when the going gets tough for him (no Tatum in Game 7s) when it really matters, he succumbs.

Thus, I'd like to trade him for Giannis.

[SparzWizard]

Murray, Valanciunas for Brown, Garza

My first reaction is no to Jamal Murray for Jaylen but I am curious enough to wonder what our team might look like with J Murray.

G: J Murray, Pritchard
G: D White, Baylor
F: Hauser, Hugo
F: Tatum, J Walsh
C: Queta, Jonas Valanciunas

Jonas Valanciunas is a worse version of what Vucevic is. I'd rather just keep Vucevic. Vooch is actually more mobile defensively than Jonas is. Jonas would give us a bit more post D and rim protection but not enough to tilt in his favour. Especially given Vucevic is much better offensively. I'd rather just keep Vooch.

I had no idea Jonas Valanciunas fell off a cliff that bad. Just a few years ago he was a solid big man some of us wished we had.

[slamtheking]

How about this 3 way trade

BOS - Giannis
CLE - Brown
MIL - Mobley, Merrill, Hugo, 27, 29, BOS 27 1st

Do trade after draft so Boston can trade the 27 1st.  So Boston trade Brown Hugo, and 2 late 1st's for Giannis.  Seems reasonable.  Cleveland trades Mobley, Merrill, and a late 1st for Brown, which seems reasonable if they go all in around Mitchell and Harden. Milwaukee gets a 24 year old DPOY, 3 1st's, a recent 1st, and a decent youngish role player. Seems reasonable.

No idea if even any teams would do that, but it does seemingly fit what all those teams might do this summer.

JB, Hugo and 2 firsts is too steep of a price for Giannis.

[Vermont Green]

Brown, Scheierman, and Garza
for
Mobley, Merrill, and Tyson

Salaries match within about $300,000.  I break it down as Brown for Mobley favors CLE.  Merrill is potentially useful, but largely filler, as is Garza, but each fill the role of the outgoing player.  I see Merrill as more value than Garza, but not enough to balance out the Brown-Mobley differential.  Then I include Tyson for Scheierman as I view Tyson as more value, to help even things out.

Probably still not a winning trade for BOS.

[Who]

Brown, Scheierman, and Garza
for
Mobley, Merrill, and Tyson

Salaries match within about $300,000.  I break it down as Brown for Mobley favors CLE.  Merrill is potentially useful, but largely filler, as is Garza, but each fill the role of the outgoing player.  I see Merrill as more value than Garza, but not enough to balance out the Brown-Mobley differential.  Then I include Tyson for Scheierman as I view Tyson as more value, to help even things out.

Probably still not a winning trade for BOS.

J Tyson reminds me of Jared Dudley.

Not quick enough defensively to be a starting caliber SF. Not big enough or athletic defensively to play long minutes at PF without compromising you. An in-between forward. Good shot. Not a great shot. He is no Hauser.

More huffing and puffing ... more activity than accomplishment. That is what I think of with J Tyson. Guy has a great mentality but limited athleticism and limited skills. Again, like Jared Dudley. Love the character Tyson has but the quality is limited.

[Neurotic Guy]

Brown, Scheierman, and Garza
for
Mobley, Merrill, and Tyson

Salaries match within about $300,000.  I break it down as Brown for Mobley favors CLE.  Merrill is potentially useful, but largely filler, as is Garza, but each fill the role of the outgoing player.  I see Merrill as more value than Garza, but not enough to balance out the Brown-Mobley differential.  Then I include Tyson for Scheierman as I view Tyson as more value, to help even things out.

Probably still not a winning trade for BOS.

Pretty good.  Two years ago I was higher on Mobley - maybe everyone was.  Thought he was going to be a force. He hasn?t progressed as expected yet, even dipped a bit this year.  Whats with 60% FT. Bad FT shooters irk me. I do like Tyson.  As far as our youth goes, I like keeping Hugo and Jordan. JT, Mobley, and Q is strong.  I believe Q?s ceiling is unknown.

[Neurotic Guy]

How about this 3 way trade

BOS - Giannis
CLE - Brown
MIL - Mobley, Merrill, Hugo, 27, 29, BOS 27 1st

Do trade after draft so Boston can trade the 27 1st.  So Boston trade Brown Hugo, and 2 late 1st's for Giannis.  Seems reasonable.  Cleveland trades Mobley, Merrill, and a late 1st for Brown, which seems reasonable if they go all in around Mitchell and Harden. Milwaukee gets a 24 year old DPOY, 3 1st's, a recent 1st, and a decent youngish role player. Seems reasonable.

No idea if even any teams would do that, but it does seemingly fit what all those teams might do this summer.

JB, Hugo and 2 firsts is too steep of a price for Giannis.

If we knew Giannis was going to be healthy for 3 years, would do this in a second. A big risk for Brad that he probably shouldn?t take.

[Phantom255x]

If the Wizards want to actually try a "win-now" move, would you trade Jaylen for #1 in a package? They get Trae Young, AD and Jaylen as a Big-3

[radiohead]

If the Wizards want to actually try a "win-now" move, would you trade Jaylen for #1 in a package? They get Trae Young, AD and Jaylen as a Big-3

That would be very enticing but JT/AJ timelines aren?t exactly a good fit? Unless AJ can perform at a high level right away?

[Celtics2021]

If the Wizards want to actually try a "win-now" move, would you trade Jaylen for #1 in a package? They get Trae Young, AD and Jaylen as a Big-3

I admit I already tried that in the trade machine.  The Wizards would have to trade their 3rd-8th highest salaried players to make it work capwise.  Technically doable, and something I would consider, of course.  And maybe something the Wizards should look into with their roster construction.  It would leave them a ton of holes to fill with not much salary to do so, but at the same their roster is crap so they already have those holes.

I think the Celtics could construct a deal such that they had a full TPE for Jaylen until the following July using their other available exceptions, which would be kind of interesting.

[keevsnick]

If the Wizards want to actually try a "win-now" move, would you trade Jaylen for #1 in a package? They get Trae Young, AD and Jaylen as a Big-3

0% Chance. The Wizards aren't trading an incoming 19-20 year old #1 pick on a rookie scale deal for a 30 year old on a supermax.

They wouldn't do it for Tatum either, again too old and too uncertain with injury stuff. 

There's too much age gap, too much lost value in giving up rookie contract plus nearly guaranteed second contract that a high draft pick comes with.

[SparzWizard]

If the Wizards want to actually try a "win-now" move, would you trade Jaylen for #1 in a package? They get Trae Young, AD and Jaylen as a Big-3

0% Chance. The Wizards aren't trading an incoming 19-20 year old #1 pick on a rookie scale deal for a 30 year old on a supermax.

They wouldn't do it for Tatum either, again too old and too uncertain with injury stuff. 

There's too much age gap, too much lost value in giving up rookie contract plus nearly guaranteed second contract that a high draft pick comes with.

True. Wizards will laugh and hang up. Tatum and Brown are too much risks with their injuries; they're better off with the #1 pick and AJ.