Do you trust JB?

[ozgod]

https://x.com/polymarkethoops/status/2051872542911246683?s=46

More and more smoke about JB being unhappy in Boston/2nd fiddle to the clearly superior JT, and he?s not exactly denying it with how he?s talking. And this is coming from TMac a Broeb apologist.

I do think a divorce may be coming, and I?m fine with it. I?m not sure JB can ever go back to the way things were before.

It all depends on whether there's truth to this or not. If he really is unhappy, then a trade is probably best for all involved. I feel like JB has always been willing to sacrifice, he's said that many times, even as late as when JT was returning and scuffling and he made a point to get him more involved, because he knows he's not winning a championship by himself, its always a team effort. So I don't agree with people saying he's selfish, or that he can't play within himself for the good of the team. He's done it for 10 years, to suggest otherwise is just being petty and playing player favorites.

But...being willing to do something and being happy about it are two separate things. It may be that he's won a championship here and wants the chance to do so as the No1 guy. If so, and he would be willing to sacrifice here but would have the chance to shine somewhere else, I would thank him for the 10 awesome years he gave us and see if we can find the best return for him while trying to find him a place where he can shine.

[celticinorlando]

The issue is what some discounted as a nothing statement on twitch seems to have a lot more to it now that his good friend and mentor Tmac comes out and said what he said. We know Brown is the one feeding him information.

It is not coming from Boston's side that is for sure. If Brown is going to take direct shots in public at the coach and now this....that is not good for the overall health of the team.

IMO I think he wants out and is trying to force Brad to do so.

[slamtheking]

it's not a good look for JB that his mentor is stirring up this crap.   I'm not sure what team appreciation he's looking for.  only place I see him unappreciated is on this forum with same small set of people trying to trade him for pennies on the dollar.

[celticinorlando]

it's not a good look for JB that his mentor is stirring up this crap.   I'm not sure what team appreciation he's looking for.  only place I see him unappreciated is on this forum with same small set of people trying to trade him for pennies on the dollar.

Esp. when Tmac is now a big part of the NBA broadcasting community. If he is saying this, then there is smoke.

[Moranis]

Game 7 at home, your star running mate is out and this is how Boston starts the game offensively

Brown missed 3
White missed 3
Garza missed 3
Brown turnover
Brown missed layup
Brown turnover

3 minutes into the game, Boston is losing 9-0. They lost by 9. 

After that

White makes 3 -- Scheierman assist
Harper misses 3
Brown misses 15 footer
White makes 1 of 2 FT
Garza turnover (11-4 at this point)
Pritchard makes layup
Pritchard misses 3
Garza misses 3 (17-6 now under 6 minutes left in 1st)

Team finally settles down ar that point but it is too late. If you want to be the guy and get what you feel is yours, then where the heck were you at the start of the most important game of the season. Brown played the whole 1st quarter, Boston was -13.  Brown played 6.5 minutes in the 2nd quarter he was -6, the other 5.5 minutes Boston was +14.  The 2nd half was better until the end.  Boston trailed 97-96 woth 5 minutes left.  Here is how they ended the game offensively

White missed 3
White missed 3 - offensive rebound - Queta makes 2 FT (still down 1)
Brown missed 3
Brown missed 14 footer
Pritchard missed 3
Brown missed 13 footer
Hauser missed 3
Brown missed 3 - offensive rebound - White missed 3
Hauser missed 3
Pritchard made layup
Pritchard missed 3

Again you want to be the man, where the heck were you in crunch time.  Oh yeah, bricking shots from everywhere on the floor.  White was also terrible, but he isn't foing around saying how great he is either. 

[celticinorlando]

Game 7 at home, your star running mate is out and this is how Boston starts the game offensively

Brown missed 3
White missed 3
Garza missed 3
Brown turnover
Brown missed layup
Brown turnover

3 minutes into the game, Boston is losing 9-0. They lost by 9. 

After that

White makes 3 -- Scheierman assist
Harper misses 3
Brown misses 15 footer
White makes 1 of 2 FT
Garza turnover (11-4 at this point)
Pritchard makes layup
Pritchard misses 3
Garza misses 3 (17-6 now under 6 minutes left in 1st)

Team finally settles down ar that point but it is too late. If you want to be the guy and get what you feel is yours, then where the heck were you at the start of the most important game of the season. Brown played the whole 1st quarter, Boston was -13.  Brown played 6.5 minutes in the 2nd quarter he was -6, the other 5.5 minutes Boston was +14.  The 2nd half was better until the end.  Boston trailed 97-96 woth 5 minutes left.  Here is how they ended the game offensively

White missed 3
White missed 3 - offensive rebound - Queta makes 2 FT (still down 1)
Brown missed 3
Brown missed 14 footer
Pritchard missed 3
Brown missed 13 footer
Hauser missed 3
Brown missed 3 - offensive rebound - White missed 3
Hauser missed 3
Pritchard made layup
Pritchard missed 3

Again you want to be the man, where the heck were you in crunch time.  Oh yeah, bricking shots from everywhere on the floor.  White was also terrible, but he isn't foing around saying how great he is either.

Twice now in game 7s where Tatum was hurt (vs Miami) and vs Philly, Brown had the stage to himself to be the man. He did not come through. A lot of the issues last Saturday night were because of him. Your post really shows this.

I appreciate him for what he did here. Really do. But it is not like he can't be replaced with someone that improves things or changes the feel of the team.

I don't think JT and JB are particularly close. I don't think going forward they can co exist anymore.

[MattyIce]

https://x.com/polymarkethoops/status/2051872542911246683?s=46

More and more smoke about JB being unhappy in Boston/2nd fiddle to the clearly superior JT, and he?s not exactly denying it with how he?s talking. And this is coming from TMac a Broeb apologist.

I do think a divorce may be coming, and I?m fine with it. I?m not sure JB can ever go back to the way things were before.
[/quote]

It all depends on whether there's truth to this or not. If he really is unhappy, then a trade is probably best for all involved. I feel like JB has always been willing to sacrifice, he's said that many times, even as late as when JT was returning and scuffling and he made a point to get him more involved, because he knows he's not winning a championship by himself, its always a team effort. So I don't agree with people saying he's selfish, or that he can't play within himself for the good of the team. He's done it for 10 years, to suggest otherwise is just being petty and playing player favorites.

But...being willing to do something and being happy about it are two separate things. It may be that he's won a championship here and wants the chance to do so as the No1 guy. If so, and he would be willing to sacrifice here but would have the chance to shine somewhere else, I would thank him for the 10 awesome years he gave us and see if we can find the best return for him while trying to find him a place where he can shine.

I promise there is truth to it

[Donoghus]

https://x.com/polymarkethoops/status/2051872542911246683?s=46

More and more smoke about JB being unhappy in Boston/2nd fiddle to the clearly superior JT, and he?s not exactly denying it with how he?s talking. And this is coming from TMac a Broeb apologist.

I do think a divorce may be coming, and I?m fine with it. I?m not sure JB can ever go back to the way things were before.
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It all depends on whether there's truth to this or not. If he really is unhappy, then a trade is probably best for all involved. I feel like JB has always been willing to sacrifice, he's said that many times, even as late as when JT was returning and scuffling and he made a point to get him more involved, because he knows he's not winning a championship by himself, its always a team effort. So I don't agree with people saying he's selfish, or that he can't play within himself for the good of the team. He's done it for 10 years, to suggest otherwise is just being petty and playing player favorites.

But...being willing to do something and being happy about it are two separate things. It may be that he's won a championship here and wants the chance to do so as the No1 guy. If so, and he would be willing to sacrifice here but would have the chance to shine somewhere else, I would thank him for the 10 awesome years he gave us and see if we can find the best return for him while trying to find him a place where he can shine.

I promise there is truth to it

Well, that's not great.

[ozgod]

https://x.com/polymarkethoops/status/2051872542911246683?s=46

More and more smoke about JB being unhappy in Boston/2nd fiddle to the clearly superior JT, and he?s not exactly denying it with how he?s talking. And this is coming from TMac a Broeb apologist.

I do think a divorce may be coming, and I?m fine with it. I?m not sure JB can ever go back to the way things were before.
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It all depends on whether there's truth to this or not. If he really is unhappy, then a trade is probably best for all involved. I feel like JB has always been willing to sacrifice, he's said that many times, even as late as when JT was returning and scuffling and he made a point to get him more involved, because he knows he's not winning a championship by himself, its always a team effort. So I don't agree with people saying he's selfish, or that he can't play within himself for the good of the team. He's done it for 10 years, to suggest otherwise is just being petty and playing player favorites.

But...being willing to do something and being happy about it are two separate things. It may be that he's won a championship here and wants the chance to do so as the No1 guy. If so, and he would be willing to sacrifice here but would have the chance to shine somewhere else, I would thank him for the 10 awesome years he gave us and see if we can find the best return for him while trying to find him a place where he can shine.

I promise there is truth to it

If that's the case, and it's unsalvageable, it's probably in everyone's best interest to move on and try and make it into a win-win. Jaylen gets to lead a team built around him, which he's proven he can do, and Brad needs to get the best return for him while trying to do the right thing by him. And it will make the haters here happy so a win-win-win...just wonder who the pinata will be when he's gone 

[jambr380]

Game 7 at home, your star running mate is out and this is how Boston starts the game offensively

Brown missed 3
White missed 3
Garza missed 3
Brown turnover
Brown missed layup
Brown turnover

3 minutes into the game, Boston is losing 9-0. They lost by 9.   

Everyone going after Joe for his wacky starting lineup, but it was Brown that killed them. And then at the same time, Philly was hitting all of their shots. I get the criticism of Joe's lineup and it definitely didn't work, but those guys worked their butts off in game 6 and he was probably hoping to start the game off with some energy with Tatum out. Queta did go on to have an awesome game 7, so benching him to start probably did light a fire under him.

Brown did have a great 2nd half, though, until the end of the game. Not taking that away from him. I just saw so many people blaming Joe when he probably made more adjustments in this one game than he did all series. It was refreshing to see.

[jambr380]

https://x.com/polymarkethoops/status/2051872542911246683?s=46

More and more smoke about JB being unhappy in Boston/2nd fiddle to the clearly superior JT, and he?s not exactly denying it with how he?s talking. And this is coming from TMac a Broeb apologist.

I do think a divorce may be coming, and I?m fine with it. I?m not sure JB can ever go back to the way things were before.
[/quote]

It all depends on whether there's truth to this or not. If he really is unhappy, then a trade is probably best for all involved. I feel like JB has always been willing to sacrifice, he's said that many times, even as late as when JT was returning and scuffling and he made a point to get him more involved, because he knows he's not winning a championship by himself, its always a team effort. So I don't agree with people saying he's selfish, or that he can't play within himself for the good of the team. He's done it for 10 years, to suggest otherwise is just being petty and playing player favorites.

But...being willing to do something and being happy about it are two separate things. It may be that he's won a championship here and wants the chance to do so as the No1 guy. If so, and he would be willing to sacrifice here but would have the chance to shine somewhere else, I would thank him for the 10 awesome years he gave us and see if we can find the best return for him while trying to find him a place where he can shine.

I promise there is truth to it

If that's the case, and it's unsalvageable, it's probably in everyone's best interest to move on and try and make it into a win-win. Jaylen gets to lead a team built around him, which he's proven he can do, and Brad needs to get the best return for him while trying to do the right thing by him. And it will make the haters here happy so a win-win-win...just wonder who the pinata will be when he's gone 

No Smart and no Brown, yeah, it will be tough to find a scapegoat. Even though he has amazing on/off numbers, the vultures are already circling around White with his poor shooting. If he's here next year and still can't find his 3, then people will pounce on him for sure.

[slamtheking]

https://x.com/polymarkethoops/status/2051872542911246683?s=46

More and more smoke about JB being unhappy in Boston/2nd fiddle to the clearly superior JT, and he?s not exactly denying it with how he?s talking. And this is coming from TMac a Broeb apologist.

I do think a divorce may be coming, and I?m fine with it. I?m not sure JB can ever go back to the way things were before.
[/quote]

It all depends on whether there's truth to this or not. If he really is unhappy, then a trade is probably best for all involved. I feel like JB has always been willing to sacrifice, he's said that many times, even as late as when JT was returning and scuffling and he made a point to get him more involved, because he knows he's not winning a championship by himself, its always a team effort. So I don't agree with people saying he's selfish, or that he can't play within himself for the good of the team. He's done it for 10 years, to suggest otherwise is just being petty and playing player favorites.

But...being willing to do something and being happy about it are two separate things. It may be that he's won a championship here and wants the chance to do so as the No1 guy. If so, and he would be willing to sacrifice here but would have the chance to shine somewhere else, I would thank him for the 10 awesome years he gave us and see if we can find the best return for him while trying to find him a place where he can shine.

I promise there is truth to it

If that's the case, and it's unsalvageable, it's probably in everyone's best interest to move on and try and make it into a win-win. Jaylen gets to lead a team built around him, which he's proven he can do, and Brad needs to get the best return for him while trying to do the right thing by him. And it will make the haters here happy so a win-win-win...just wonder who the pinata will be when he's gone 

No Smart and no Brown, yeah, it will be tough to find a scapegoat. Even though he has amazing on/off numbers, the vultures are already circling around White with his poor shooting. If he's here next year and still can't find his 3, then people will pounce on him for sure.

if he has another crappy year, which if JB is traded for roster filler, is very possible since he'd be asked to be the #2 again and we saw how he failed in that role.  It's not his fault he's not good enough to be a #2 but once Tatum was back and he could be the #3 for a few weeks, he failed at that too. 

I'm just waiting for the vultures to start up if JB is traded and has a great year with Tatum having a good, yet injury-filled year --> they'll find something to get riled up about and blame JB for something even though he's no longer here

[celticinorlando]

I do not believe JB has ever gotten over being shopped for KD. I think it is a huge reason there are issues behind the scenes.

If I were Brad, I would really look to move him. The veiled comments by JB feels like he wants out.

[Larry for 3]

I do not believe JB has ever gotten over being shopped for KD. I think it is a huge reason there are issues behind the scenes.

If I were Brad, I would really look to move him. The veiled comments by JB feels like he wants out.

That as well as being booed on draft night. That was the start.

[celticinorlando]

Brad was asked about the Tmac comments and said JB has not expressed that to him...Brad said his door is open and JB can come and talk.

So it seems JB is doing his complaining via his proxies in the media.