Giannis

[Atzar]

Giannis scares me at this point in his career because he's 31 years old with a lot of miles and leg injuries.  I'm not sure I'm willing to pay what it would take to get him. 

That's without touching his role in the fraying relationship with the Bucks or his affiliation with Kalshi, which I'm surprised is even permitted for an active player. 

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Giannis scares me at this point in his career because he's 31 years old with a lot of miles and leg injuries.  I'm not sure I'm willing to pay what it would take to get him. 

That's without touching his role in the fraying relationship with the Bucks or his affiliation with Kalshi, which I'm surprised is even permitted for an active player.

These things seem like very small concerns for me.

31 years old means he has at least 4 years left on his prime.

Injuries are always a concern, but Giannis has played in 60+ games every year but this year. I don't really see a poor trend.

The fraying relationship with the Bucks has to do with them being a losing organization for several years, and them being unable to retool a team around him. He's a competitor. That's not a knock.

I know nothing about Kalshi. What's the concern there?

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Realgm forum had an interesting idea. What about Indiana? Siakim + top 4 pick?

I still wonder if Indiana's season last year was a flash in the pan, but that's a fascinating idea. Hali-Zubac-Nembhard-Giannis-Nesmith

The Bucks would think about that, right? Siakim helps them stay competitive, and they get two top 8 picks in a loaded draft class?

Another note that I've heard multiple times now is that Giannis wants to be on the east coast so he is just a short plane ride away from Greece. Boston would be one of those teams.

If Giannis uses his extension leverage at all, he can probably push hard for a specific location. Its interesting that he's publically mentioned the Cs.

[Moranis]

White is a very good tertiary player and he is older than Giannis.  He doesn't have much value to a team like the Bucks.  He is too old and not good enough.  He cannot be the main part of a Giannis trade.  Just not enough. 

Boston cannot acquire Giannis without trading Tatum or Brown, so Giannis will not be coming to Boston.

The Ringer released an article today that had Derrick White on the All-NBA third team this year and on the all-defensive first team.

https://www.theringer.com/2026/04/09/nba/nba-team-awards-all-nba-defensive-rookie-ballot-2026

Not saying I necessarily agree, but I think this demonstrates that the many people would view White as a really good piece to include in a trade, and not dismiss him as a "tertiary player" that is "too old and not good enough."

White is a very good player, but his best value is on a contender that has 2 scorers in place already.  He isnt a 1 or 2 scorer and never had been (even this year PP scored more than White).  He is also older than Giannis and his efficiency has gotten worse each of the last 3 years. It seems pretty likely he is only going to get worse, the real question is does it remain gradual or does he hit a cliff and if so, when?  For all those reasons, he isn't the type of player that is a centerpiece in that sort of trade.  The Bucks would simply be better off taking Herro and Ware from the Heat over any trade from Boston that didn't include a Jay.  But I think the Bucks will get better offers this summer than they got at the deadline.  And I wouldn't trade a Jay for Giannis at this point, so that is why I think the door is closed I need Giannis in Boston.

Are you saying that the Bucks could never be involved in a trade where a Celtics 2024 Championship starting guard was traded to a team looking to build for the future, because that team wouldn't value them as highly as a contender?

Maybe they could trade him to a contender in exchange for picks/another movable player...

That said, I don't see the fit if Brown/Tatum/Gianni's. You'd be pushing Brown toouch more to the perimeter when Gianni's was healthy

Milwaukee doesn't control all of its picks. It doesn't want to tank and as a small market needs viable players.   White or the draft picks they'd trade White for aren't going to net the right return.  White isnt bringing in high lottery pick type draft capital. 

Given his age and contract, White is probably netting 2 1st round picks from a good team (like picks in the 20's type picks).  That is why Boston won't trade him, but also why the Bucks wouldn't want him. 

The Bucks alteady turned down Herro, Ware, other players, and multiple picks and swaps.  Herro is a legit high-level scorer in his mid 20's and Ware is a 2nd year 21 year old big man averaging close to a double double with 3 point range and good shot blocking (he is better than Queta right now with a lot more room to grow).  For a team in Milwaukee's situation that is a better package than White, Queta, and others. And Miami had more picks and likely better picks to offer.  Milwaukee said that wasn't good enough.  Without a Jay, Boston isn't getting Giannis. 

[Atzar]

Giannis scares me at this point in his career because he's 31 years old with a lot of miles and leg injuries.  I'm not sure I'm willing to pay what it would take to get him. 

That's without touching his role in the fraying relationship with the Bucks or his affiliation with Kalshi, which I'm surprised is even permitted for an active player.

These things seem like very small concerns for me.

31 years old means he has at least 4 years left on his prime.

Injuries are always a concern, but Giannis has played in 60+ games every year but this year. I don't really see a poor trend.

The fraying relationship with the Bucks has to do with them being a losing organization for several years, and them being unable to retool a team around him. He's a competitor. That's not a knock.

I know nothing about Kalshi. What's the concern there?

Giannis has been publicly complaining that the Bucks won't let him play.  The NBA investigated the claim and found that he refuses to take part in team practices.  If it were just a KG "I want to go where I can win" situation I'd be sympathetic.  Instead he chose this path, where he appears to be looking for a way out that reflects well on him but actually just looks like a snake. 


Kalshi is a gambling platform in which Giannis recently became a shareholder.  Likely not an on-court issue; however, as a fan who has become increasingly disillusioned by the marriage of sports and gambling, I'd prefer not to have that connection near my team.  Again; surprised it's even permitted.


As for the durability, he's a high-contact, athleticism-reliant style of player who has missed, or been limited in, multiple consecutive playoff runs now.  Could just be bad luck, or maybe he breaks down over the course of a long season. 

Perhaps it's worth the risk.  Maybe you trade everything but the Jays and trust that Mazzulla can squeeze good ball out of another handful of castoffs and unproven prospects the way he did this season.  I acknowledge the upside.  I'm just not sold.

[aefgogreen]

White is a very good tertiary player and he is older than Giannis.  He doesn't have much value to a team like the Bucks.  He is too old and not good enough.  He cannot be the main part of a Giannis trade.  Just not enough. 

Boston cannot acquire Giannis without trading Tatum or Brown, so Giannis will not be coming to Boston.

The Ringer released an article today that had Derrick White on the All-NBA third team this year and on the all-defensive first team.

https://www.theringer.com/2026/04/09/nba/nba-team-awards-all-nba-defensive-rookie-ballot-2026

Not saying I necessarily agree, but I think this demonstrates that the many people would view White as a really good piece to include in a trade, and not dismiss him as a "tertiary player" that is "too old and not good enough."

I don't think White would be the impediment to a Giannis deal.  If Milwaukee didn't want him, they could flip him to at least a dozen teams that would.

And, the "Boston doesn't have the pieces" argument isn't really true.  I mean, if we offered Milwaukee White + Pritchard + Queta + Hugo or Scheierman + two #1s, that would easily be better than anything they were offered last year.

But, we'd lose a ton of depth that we wouldn't be able to replace easily, and the team's flexibility would be severely compromised.

I can't see the Celtics offering both White and Pritchard. 

[A Future of Stevens]

Wouldn't the point of including White be to eventually route him to another team for more assets? I understand he would be salary for us, but obviously White has no value on the court for a team that should be absolutely awful Post Giannis.

[Roy H.]

White is a very good tertiary player and he is older than Giannis.  He doesn't have much value to a team like the Bucks.  He is too old and not good enough.  He cannot be the main part of a Giannis trade.  Just not enough. 

Boston cannot acquire Giannis without trading Tatum or Brown, so Giannis will not be coming to Boston.

The Ringer released an article today that had Derrick White on the All-NBA third team this year and on the all-defensive first team.

https://www.theringer.com/2026/04/09/nba/nba-team-awards-all-nba-defensive-rookie-ballot-2026

Not saying I necessarily agree, but I think this demonstrates that the many people would view White as a really good piece to include in a trade, and not dismiss him as a "tertiary player" that is "too old and not good enough."

I don't think White would be the impediment to a Giannis deal.  If Milwaukee didn't want him, they could flip him to at least a dozen teams that would.

And, the "Boston doesn't have the pieces" argument isn't really true.  I mean, if we offered Milwaukee White + Pritchard + Queta + Hugo or Scheierman + two #1s, that would easily be better than anything they were offered last year.

But, we'd lose a ton of depth that we wouldn't be able to replace easily, and the team's flexibility would be severely compromised.

I can't see the Celtics offering both White and Pritchard.

Me neither, but it's a package we could offer that doesn't involve the Jays.

[SHAQATTACK]

JB is at the TOP of his game right now with no major injuries to his body,   I wouldn?t let him go for Giannis in any trade .   

I would trade Trade several guys for Flagg