Brown/Tatum

[Csfan1984]

Feel Brown has shown between the winning playoff year and this year he is the better in the moment "need a bucket" player. Tatum has shown through out his run he is more a "in the flow of the offense"  player. If both guys can feed off that then they are fine. It's like Jokic and Murray, Brunson and KAT, Shai and Jalen, etc. Plenty of good teams have that and need it to actually to be successful.

This year Brown gives me hope it will work even better than the past. Brown  has grown to actually give more up as being the #1. Prior to this year he would be more discontent with having a great night being held back vs now he seems to not care if he is "feeling it", he wants his teammates to also succeed. That's maturity when give the leader responsibility. That helps make a great captain.

I wish Tatum didn't have such a bad injury. As it always seemed that when Brown got better so did Tatum. They were on the same up curve. If Brown is playing like a MVP candidate there is little doubt that Tatum would be there as well. It would be them combing for 60+ pts a game nightly with crazy full up the box score added numbers.

If Tatum can comeback as good or better than Kobe and Durant did then the future is again bright with this duo.

[Celtics4ever]

I have always thought Brown had a better killer instinct than Jayson.   This was shown when we won the title.  Am I alone in this line of thinking?

May new Tatum will realize that his basketball is career is finite and develop the killer instinct.   Time to dominate and exert your will to win, bot let the game come to oyu.

[lbgreen33]

I agree and really enjoy reading everyone's take on this. That's why this forum is great, you guys help me see things in ways I didn't even think of. I don't think JB is a ball hog now, I was talking bout the beginning of his career.  I hope everyone is right, and for the most part, I agree. I still think there will be something to watch with JB's adjustment. He has tasted top dog, and he is good at it! I am not saying they won't find their way, more interested to see who is top dog when JT returns. Good problem to have if they adjust well to each other, and there is no reason to believe they won't.

[jambr380]

I have always thought Brown had a better killer instinct than Jayson.   This was shown when we won the title.  Am I alone in this line of thinking?

May new Tatum will realize that his basketball is career is finite and develop the killer instinct.   Time to dominate and exert your will to win, bot let the game come to oyu.

I don't really feel that way. Tatum can be as cold-blooded as they come and positively affects the game in so many ways that aren't necessarily obvious.

I love Jaylen for this team and am glad we have both guys, but I also don't really see Jaylen as a true #1. Sure, he is doing it this year to an extent, but nobody is taking the Celtics seriously as true contenders. Not until our 1A comes back.

This is not to diminish what Jaylen has done. I agree that he does have a killer instinct, I just don't think that Tatum doesn't have one. This team is much better when both guys are here.

[Celtics4ever]

I have always thought Brown had a better killer instinct than Jayson.   This was shown when we won the title.  Am I alone in this line of thinking?

May new Tatum will realize that his basketball is career is finite and develop the killer instinct.   Time to dominate and exert your will to win, bot let the game come to oyu.

I don't really feel that way. Tatum can be as cold-blooded as they come and positively affects the game in so many ways that aren't necessarily obvious.

I love Jaylen for this team and am glad we have both guys, but I also don't really see Jaylen as a true #1. Sure, he is doing it this year to an extent, but nobody is taking the Celtics seriously as true contenders. Not until our 1A comes back.

This is not to diminish what Jaylen has done. I agree that he does have a killer instinct, I just don't think that Tatum doesn't have one. This team is much better when both guys are here.

I watch every game, Tatum is historically bad in the first half of games.  I asked AI:

"Jayson Tatum's slow starts to games, particularly in scoring, are a recurring theme often linked to shot selection (forcing tough fades), adjusting to defenses, and sometimes dealing with injuries or team dynamics, but he frequently responds with big second halves, showing resilience and impact beyond scoring, though fans and analysts debate his overall offensive consistency and "will" on the game"

I asked AI about the clutch scoring:

"In clutch situations, Jaylen Brown has often shown better efficiency (FG%/3P%) and impact, especially in recent postseasons, while Jayson Tatum attempts more shots and free throws, leading to higher raw point totals but sometimes lower percentages, though both are crucial, with Tatum often handling playmaking and Brown delivering timely, efficient plays and defense. "

Now I have seen Tatum take over games, but in the finals Brown did more.   When Tatum does take over he is more potent than Brown.   But he does not do it very much.  I cheated using AI, so I apologize for that.  To each their own...

[moiso]

I have always thought Brown had a better killer instinct than Jayson.   This was shown when we won the title.  Am I alone in this line of thinking?

May new Tatum will realize that his basketball is career is finite and develop the killer instinct.   Time to dominate and exert your will to win, bot let the game come to oyu.

Brown has a much better killer instinct than Tatum.  I'm actually enjoying not having to see Tatum settling for difficult shots at crucial times, and what I perceive as his choking/pressing in clutch situations.  Tatum is our best player, but to me he's the most frustrating. 

[Neurotic Guy]

I have always thought Brown had a better killer instinct than Jayson.   This was shown when we won the title.  Am I alone in this line of thinking?

May new Tatum will realize that his basketball is career is finite and develop the killer instinct.   Time to dominate and exert your will to win, bot let the game come to oyu.

I don't really feel that way. Tatum can be as cold-blooded as they come and positively affects the game in so many ways that aren't necessarily obvious.

I love Jaylen for this team and am glad we have both guys, but I also don't really see Jaylen as a true #1. Sure, he is doing it this year to an extent, but nobody is taking the Celtics seriously as true contenders. Not until our 1A comes back.

This is not to diminish what Jaylen has done. I agree that he does have a killer instinct, I just don't think that Tatum doesn't have one. This team is much better when both guys are here.

I watch every game, Tatum is historically bad in the first half of games.  I asked AI:

"Jayson Tatum's slow starts to games, particularly in scoring, are a recurring theme often linked to shot selection (forcing tough fades), adjusting to defenses, and sometimes dealing with injuries or team dynamics, but he frequently responds with big second halves, showing resilience and impact beyond scoring, though fans and analysts debate his overall offensive consistency and "will" on the game"

I asked AI about the clutch scoring:

"In clutch situations, Jaylen Brown has often shown better efficiency (FG%/3P%) and impact, especially in recent postseasons, while Jayson Tatum attempts more shots and free throws, leading to higher raw point totals but sometimes lower percentages, though both are crucial, with Tatum often handling playmaking and Brown delivering timely, efficient plays and defense. "

Now I have seen Tatum take over games, but in the finals Brown did more.   When Tatum does take over he is more potent than Brown.   But he does not do it very much.  I cheated using AI, so I apologize for that.  To each their own...

Would never have expected Alan Iverson to have this level of insight. 

[Indocelts]

Both Tatum and Brown were inefficient 3pt volume shooters last few years. This year Brown improves his efficieny by focusing more on 2pt shots. I love watching him play this year  and hope he will play this way too once Tatum returns. He shouldn't just copy what Tatum does shooting wise.

Tatum brings a better overall package, imo, with his defense and rebounding,  which the Cs sorely lack now. I do hope he will shoot less 3s and dribble penetrate more, hence more FTs.

Shooting 3s should be mostly done by good 3pt shooters that the Cs have.
I'm glad that Brown shows that he can still improve by changing the way he plays. I hope Tatum does too.

[mobilija]

I have always thought Brown had a better killer instinct than Jayson.   This was shown when we won the title.  Am I alone in this line of thinking?

May new Tatum will realize that his basketball is career is finite and develop the killer instinct.   Time to dominate and exert your will to win, bot let the game come to oyu.

I don't really feel that way. Tatum can be as cold-blooded as they come and positively affects the game in so many ways that aren't necessarily obvious.

I love Jaylen for this team and am glad we have both guys, but I also don't really see Jaylen as a true #1. Sure, he is doing it this year to an extent, but nobody is taking the Celtics seriously as true contenders. Not until our 1A comes back.

This is not to diminish what Jaylen has done. I agree that he does have a killer instinct, I just don't think that Tatum doesn't have one. This team is much better when both guys are here.

I watch every game, Tatum is historically bad in the first half of games.  I asked AI:

"Jayson Tatum's slow starts to games, particularly in scoring, are a recurring theme often linked to shot selection (forcing tough fades), adjusting to defenses, and sometimes dealing with injuries or team dynamics, but he frequently responds with big second halves, showing resilience and impact beyond scoring, though fans and analysts debate his overall offensive consistency and "will" on the game"

I asked AI about the clutch scoring:

"In clutch situations, Jaylen Brown has often shown better efficiency (FG%/3P%) and impact, especially in recent postseasons, while Jayson Tatum attempts more shots and free throws, leading to higher raw point totals but sometimes lower percentages, though both are crucial, with Tatum often handling playmaking and Brown delivering timely, efficient plays and defense. "

Now I have seen Tatum take over games, but in the finals Brown did more.   When Tatum does take over he is more potent than Brown.   But he does not do it very much.  I cheated using AI, so I apologize for that.  To each their own...

Would never have expected Alan Iverson to have this level of insight.

a very large Dad Joke sized TP for u sir!

[Goldstar88]

I have always thought Brown had a better killer instinct than Jayson.   This was shown when we won the title.  Am I alone in this line of thinking?

May new Tatum will realize that his basketball is career is finite and develop the killer instinct.   Time to dominate and exert your will to win, bot let the game come to oyu.

Brown has a much better killer instinct than Tatum.  I'm actually enjoying not having to see Tatum settling for difficult shots at crucial times, and what I perceive as his choking/pressing in clutch situations.  Tatum is our best player, but to me he's the most frustrating.

Based on what exactly? Does JB have any game winning shots this season?

[SparzWizard]

I have always thought Brown had a better killer instinct than Jayson.   This was shown when we won the title.  Am I alone in this line of thinking?

May new Tatum will realize that his basketball is career is finite and develop the killer instinct.   Time to dominate and exert your will to win, bot let the game come to oyu.

Brown didn't have that killer instinct in Game 7 of the 2023 ECF after Tatum went down. Got blown out at home after tying the series 3-3 with the Heat. Brown also didn't have any killer instinct in the 2022 NBA Finals. He's a turnover machine and a free-throw missing machine on some nights and it's happened several times